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Was he mad about the Ramsay torture porn stuff that they left out? I understand that Ramsay's wife (not Sansa) gets much closer with his dogs than the on-screen equivalent.
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Was he mad about the Ramsay torture porn stuff that they left out? I understand that Ramsay's wife (not Sansa) gets much closer with his dogs than the on-screen equivalent.
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One badass ginger Wildling with a sexy accent is as good as another
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No, he's mad that it was on screen. This stuff was all implied in the books, rarely if ever shown.
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Watch The Dragon Demands. He is the site mod for ASOIAF wiki and he HATES the show. He does excellent rants scrutinizing not just the idiocy of the plot logistics but also the flawed psychology of both the characters and writers.
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So here's the thing, I'm more of a reader of the series. I've only watched the first couple of episodes of the show, but I never continued because something about it felt off. Maybe it was the actors not resembling how I pictured the characters, or maybe it was them pronouncing words differently (Catelyn being a notable example), but in any case I thought the show was an interesting companion to the books, though I much preferred the books. That said, I knew that the show was probably going to be the only taste of any sort of ending to the story given that Martin's probably never going to finish those books.
This is honestly the biggest wet fart of an ending I can think to a story as grand as Game of Thrones. The way Dany was killed just feels wrong to me. Like the show spent literal years building up her attempt to reclaim the Iron Throne, but then she's killed by Jon. If you really have to kill Dany, then maybe do something less anti-climactic. Like the way she's killed doesn't even justify 8 years of character and plot development. I'd have hoped for her to go out in a blaze of glory (pun not intended).
And Bran being king is the stupidest fucking thing ever. Bran was always one of the least interesting characters in the book in my eyes, about the only interesting thing was how he got crippled which showed early on that no one was really safe. That said, him becoming king is a direction that absolutely makes no sense. He's a crippled kid/guy (however the fuck old he's supposed to be now) that becomes a psychic after his home is sacked. It's like, would you ever guess that this kid would be king at the end of it all? It's not even clever in a "subverting your expectations" kind of way, it's just plain stupid.
Looking at all this, it's insane how botched this was. I've been hearing that the show went downhill after they ran out of book to adapt, and frankly I'm sort of glad I never hopped on the show. At the same time, this is about the only real ending I'm ever going to get, which sucks.
This is honestly the biggest wet fart of an ending I can think to a story as grand as Game of Thrones. The way Dany was killed just feels wrong to me. Like the show spent literal years building up her attempt to reclaim the Iron Throne, but then she's killed by Jon. If you really have to kill Dany, then maybe do something less anti-climactic. Like the way she's killed doesn't even justify 8 years of character and plot development. I'd have hoped for her to go out in a blaze of glory (pun not intended).
And Bran being king is the stupidest fucking thing ever. Bran was always one of the least interesting characters in the book in my eyes, about the only interesting thing was how he got crippled which showed early on that no one was really safe. That said, him becoming king is a direction that absolutely makes no sense. He's a crippled kid/guy (however the fuck old he's supposed to be now) that becomes a psychic after his home is sacked. It's like, would you ever guess that this kid would be king at the end of it all? It's not even clever in a "subverting your expectations" kind of way, it's just plain stupid.
Looking at all this, it's insane how botched this was. I've been hearing that the show went downhill after they ran out of book to adapt, and frankly I'm sort of glad I never hopped on the show. At the same time, this is about the only real ending I'm ever going to get, which sucks.
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I think I understand the finale. Bran is meant to be a mindless repository of all of the world's past information, basically a sentient Internet. As such, making Bran King is a metaphor that we all need to abandon human leaders and bow down to the Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God
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Why couldn't Sam die
Like... he fucking sucks
Like... he fucking sucks
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Sansa starts the War of the Five Kings by begging Ned to plead guilty so she can be Jeffrey's wife how does she come out not only relatively unscathed but a fucking Queen? Get real, some spergy Northern Lord would have stabbed her to death in a drunken rage long ago because da Norf remembers or something something.
And she's still legally married to a Lannister, the house that waged the war and killed most of the Starks (some of them at a wedding no less). It's not like it's forgotten, Tyrion and Sansa make light of it in the crypts. IRL she'd be dead or divorced and married off to the imbecile in the Vale.
And she's still legally married to a Lannister, the house that waged the war and killed most of the Starks (some of them at a wedding no less). It's not like it's forgotten, Tyrion and Sansa make light of it in the crypts. IRL she'd be dead or divorced and married off to the imbecile in the Vale.
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That and the one Dothraki bloodrider getting killed off in the earlier seasons were the two things I thought it was weird he fixated on so much.
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Seeing how he turned out in the show after his growth spurt I think book Sansa would be fine with that.
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I think Robyn Arryn might be a tick too incestuous for the northmen. First cousins and all.
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Just to add what everyone else has contributed: AT&T recently acquired Time Warner, which includes HBO. This deal has been in the making for a couple of years. In order to compete with streaming platforms, the new corporate overlords want to see HBO with a full week slate of original programming. It used to be that Sunday nights were the only night of the week where HBO aired their own stuff; this was true for decades. But now they’ve got to start churning the wheels of content to build up their library so it’s competitive with Netflix (who are just producing shows and movies at a ridiculous rate.) That means original shows maybe three to four nights a week. Maybe more.
My impression is the two guys running Thrones saw the writing on the wall and split as soon as they had the opportunity, not just because they were bored with the show but because AT&T was going to run the channel very differently than the cushy little nest they were used to and start holding their feet to the fire. The guy who was the CEO of HBO was ousted last month; he was the one who originally greenlit Thrones. So they knew they were no longer going to get the support and carte blanche they had been afforded.
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No one has a problem with cousin marriage in this culture.
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Cite your source? I can't recall any discussion of Northman incest other than disdain for the targs and Lannisters.
Not saying you're wrong I just don't recall it.
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I've kinda had to explain this over the years, but here's my 2 cents. With ASoIaF, when characters spoke the writing could pull you in. It will just grab you and make you listen to what they are saying. It's kinda like watching the original Legend of the Galactic Heroes OVA series. With GoT, I didn't get that. Due to the time restraints of each season, conversations were stripped down into their core essentials with the odd lines to make it sound smart.
ASoIaF wants you to take each word to heart. GoT wants you to quote and meme each word that comes out of someone's mouth.
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True Blood turned into an abortion midway through the show long before any of that, though. They killed other great shows in their infancy in the past also. There may be something to what you're saying, but I can't help but think that history is repeating itself here as well.
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Off the top of my head I can't remember one explicitly saying it's ok but Sansa didn't balk at being married to Robert Arryn because he was her cousin. Rather, it was because she met him. I'm reasonably sure there's a cousin marriage among Northmen at some point but I'd have to dive through the books. I think it's just that like many (though far from all) historical cultures, cousins are not considered incest.
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European royalty was/is notoriously inbred. Noble women, particularly one like Sansa, were expected to marry to make alliances and produce heirs. Cousin marriage is common if you look at their family trees. @Your Weird Fetish is right Littlefinger arranged their marriage and the Vale lords signed off on it.
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Sansa Stark (daughter of Rickon)
Sansa Stark was a noblewoman from House Stark, the youngest daughter of Rickon Stark, heir to Lord Cregan Stark of Winterfell, and his wife, Jeyne Manderly. She had an older sister, Serena Stark.[3]
There's an uncle-niece marriage