Game of Thrones Thread

[Commander X]

Seeing the people who are continuing to have meltdowns over GoT and crying that their years of investment in this series have been for nothing and they've been betrayed by the patriarchy reminds me of some evergreen advice

 

[Secret Asshole]

Ok, so I just watched a behind the scenes video with the actors, the director, the VFX people and D&D. Anyone but the actors are fucking re.tarded. They are dumb as dogshit. They have absolutely no idea what the audience wants.

They literally said the audience wanted to see the good guys murder random people in King's Landing. They said that they couldn't do something expected because the audience would know (SUBVERTING EXPECTATIONS HURR). These people are fucking hacks and hid behind Martin's material. They can't write worth a shit. They're too lazy and egotistical to properly adapt something.

Every actor was dumbfounded and could barely fucking contain their disgust and contempt. Peter Dinklage was talking about Tyrion betraying Varys and he had this incomprehensible look on his face when he said "Varys was his friend". Like he was completely fucking heartbroken that his character did that. Maisie Williams even admits that the writers had no fucking idea what the horse symbolized. 'Because it was a beautiful shot'. Is what she says. The guy who plays Euron, when fighting Jamie, both were talking in Danish. Since they're both Danes, nobody knew what they were talking about. I 100% guarantee they were shitting all over what they both had to do and this abortion of an episode.

Emilia Clark looked like she needed to take amphetamines before even attempting to describe what Dany did. I want you to know, every single actor knew this was shit. Every one of them. D&D and the director listened to none of their input. These are incompetent fucks.

Also Ian McShane is dead and his character was a nothingburger anyway, so his character is as irrelevant as his opinion on the matter. Also all the other actors that have major roles in the series hated what it was doing and cannot even sell this. They're barely trying.

I hope this is like a Monkey's Paw scenario for them, now they just kill whatever they touch. People are going to lose their shit Sunday night at how fucking re.tarded these two are. They think they're brilliant. One of these guys sewed Wade Wilson's mouth shut. I'm glad Ryan Renyolds constantly shits on X-Men origins and this fucking faggot.

I honestly hope the finale kills the property on HBO so it fucks with D&D's careers permanently. I hope their Star Wars movies completely fail.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

Maisie Williams even admits that the writers had no fucking idea what the horse symbolized. 'Because it was a beautiful shot'. Is what she says.

If Arya's really dead and that horse was just her dying vision as she lay twitching in the street from having her skull crushed by falling debris, I will take back every bad thing I ever said about D&D.

Mainly I just want to believe that they're pulling a ruse like when they claimed Jon Snow was dead for real after season 5 and that there's something brilliant and poignant waiting for us in the finale.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Why do that to yourself

 

[God of Nothing]

Speaking of 4chins and Samuel "Fat" Tarly, here's a gem I found earlier today:Ver archivo adjunto 762536

Reminder that GRRM is like centuries old and is still surprised women don't find the fat nerd who loves to bake cakes or w/e attractive... despite his "fat pink mast." Fuck that line still gets me, even more than the Dany diarrhea shitting in a field scene

Also, the spin factory has begun vomiting its think piece garbage: AV Club article about GoT actor telling fans to "Get a life"

If you don't want to visit a AV page, I don't blame you, it's some literally who pretending to be a chad and telling nerds to "Enjoy product, don't ask questions, get excited for new product"

Samwell is the only nice guy in Westeros, a land where old school conflicts are very much at large. Hitching up with him is practically asking to get your family killed or for people to walk over you. The same goes in real life, to an extent, and women are wired to like muscly scarred bad-asses more. Plus, the motherfucker is fat and not a rich noble. You're getting nothing from him as a partner other than some freshly baked soy pies and something for others to mock you for as long as you're together.

In comparison, Celgane is an asshole but he's got muscles and even acts nobly from time to time. Any guy is more likely to be friends with him and women are more likely to be attracted to him. He's his own man while Sam's kind of a useless doormat. If it weren't for Jon pitying every sorry soy boy denied by their father, he would've been made into crow stew a long time ago.

 

[Judge Holden]

Just dropping in to mention the fact that at this point Hot Pie has objectively received a better and more consistent character growth arc than pretty much all the main characters from Jamie to Dany to Jon to Bran.

Think about it, he starts as a bullying coward and asshole in Season 1, steadily becoming a friendlier and more positive guy through his interactions with Arya and Gendry in Season 2 and showing the first signs of courage, finally achieving his dream job as a cook and parting with Arya/Gendry as one of their only real friends in Season 3, risking his new job and indeed life in Season 4 by assisting Brienne in her search for the Stark girls despite the fact they were enemies of the state, and finally he is the one to send Arya back home to Winterfell in Season 7 while happily reflecting on the fact they both managed to survive for so long.

Honestly im half worried there will be a scene in Episode 6 where he is shown to inexplicably be back in kings landing as a shit covered pig rapist who steals food from the burn victims only to messily soil himself when Arya comes to kill him

 

[Mola Ram]

Just dropping in to mention the fact that at this point Hot Pie has objectively received a better and more consistent character growth arc than pretty much all the main characters from Jamie to Dany to Jon to Bran.

Think about it, he starts as a bullying coward and asshole in Season 1, steadily becoming a friendlier and more positive guy through his interactions with Arya and Gendry in Season 2 and showing the first signs of courage, finally achieving his dream job as a cook and parting with Arya/Gendry as one of their only real friends in Season 3, risking his new job and indeed life in Season 4 by assisting Brienne in her search for the Stark girls despite the fact they were enemies of the state, and finally he is the one to send Arya back home to Winterfell in Season 7 while happily reflecting on the fact they both managed to survive for so long.

Honestly im half worried there will be a scene in Episode 6 where he is shown to inexplicably be back in kings landing as a shit covered pig rapist who steals food from the burn victims only to messily soil himself when Arya comes to kill him

The sad thing is a lot of these annihilated character arcs could have been improved even with the truncated season. Want to have Jaime going back to Cersei actually make sense? Kill Brienne. Don't even have them sleep together; have her die during the Long Night, maybe even while saving him. Have him guilt spiral, thinking he doesn't deserve love and this woman shouldn't have died protecting him. Crawling back to Cersei is all that's left to him. Oh, and cut that dumb shit about "I never cared about the innocents."

 

[Starscreams Cape]

Samwell is the only nice guy in Westeros, a land where old school conflicts are very much at large. Hitching up with him is practically asking to get your family killed or for people to walk over you. The same goes in real life, to an extent, and women are wired to like muscly scarred bad-asses more. Plus, the motherfucker is fat and not a rich noble. You're getting nothing from him as a partner other than some freshly baked soy pies and something for others to mock you for as long as you're together.

In comparison, Celgane is an asshole but he's got muscles and even acts nobly from time to time. Any guy is more likely to be friends with him and women are more likely to be attracted to him. He's his own man while Sam's kind of a useless doormat. If it weren't for Jon pitying every sorry soy boy denied by their father, he would've been made into crow stew a long time ago.

The message of the show is clear - harmless cucks like Sam, S7-8Tyrion and S8Jon are the only ones who can survive in Westeros. I think pretty much anyone with an ounce of testosterone in them has died. Bronn is the last Primaris left, and he's a bit of a joke himself.

 

[God of Nothing]

The message of the show is clear - harmless cucks like Sam, S7-8Tyrion and S8Jon are the only ones who can survive in Westeros. I think pretty much anyone with an ounce of testosterone in them has died. Bronn is the last Primaris left, and he's a bit of a joke himself.

Truly, we live in the era of soy.

 

[Golly]

Guys, I miss Tyrion. What was even the point of him surviving S4? I'm well aware that committing patricide probably fucks a man up, but whoever's been dwarfin it up with Dany the past few years isn't even recognizable. It seems like pretty much any character could have taken on the role he serves right now.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Anyone but the actors are fucking re.tarded. They are dumb as dogshit. They have absolutely no idea what the audience wants.

I would like to print this post out and bury it in a time capsule, so on the off-chance that future generations are literate, they can dig it up centuries hence and see just how deep into Clown World the late 20-teens got. We are literally at the point where the actors are the smartest people in the room, and the people behind the cameras can't count to 21 without dropping their pants.
HEEEEEELLLLPPPPPPPP

 

[verissimus]

Guys, I miss Tyrion. What was even the point of him surviving S4? I'm well aware that committing patricide probably fucks a man up, but whoever's been dwarfin it up with Dany the past few years isn't even recognizable. It seems like pretty much any character could have taken on the role he serves right now.

As far as I'm concerned, Tyrion only had one good season and that was season 2. On a season to season basis, his story goes as follows

Season 1 => He precipitates the feud between the Lannisters and Starks by being adducted by Catelyn Stark because she thinks he tried to have Bran killed
Season 2 => He acts as Hand of the King in Tywin's stead, and by all measures does a good job at that. Marries off Marcella, defends King's Landing well enough for his father's reinforcements to mop up Stannis army, etc.
Season 3 => He's made to marry Sansa. That's pretty much the only important thing that happens with him in the whole season.
Season 4 => He's falsely blamed for killing Joffrey and stands trial. When his dumbass champion is killed, he's sentenced to death but escapes that is before he kills off the best character in the show.
Season 5 => Does jack shit
Season 6 => Still pretty much does jack shit. He works as a Hand to Daenerys in Essos, but his plans don't really work out that well.
Season 7 => His plans fail even more miserably than the previous season
Season 8 => His plans continue failing more miserably than the two previous seasons.

This is one of the reasons I hate this character so much. His importance to the story is over-inflated. Arya in my opinion is even worse as far as effecting the plot outside her killing the Night King. If it weren't for that, she would be a garbage tier character, again, with regards to the overall plot.

Edit : @Secret Asshole You know the sad part is, the next inside the episode for the final episode will be even more cringeworthy than that one.

 

[Judge Holden]

Yeah im so glad they edited out the plotline where Tyrion finds his first wife truly loved him and Jamie betrayed him to his father who then had a hundred soldiers rape her half to death as punishment, thus causing Tyrion to swear bloody revenge on his entire family, starting with murdering Tywin and gloating as he dies and then sailing off to join Dany's cause with the express intention of utterly selling out his family in exchange for the right to rape and murder Cersei when Dany won.

Who needs halfway interesting writing and character motivations when you have dick jokes and looking shocked?

Seriously though, of all the things that could have helped bring "dany burns kings landing" to the story in a realistic way, having Tyrion be an ultra warhawk obsessed with revenge against his family and the people of Kings Landing as a whole who steadily poisons Dany's mind as she comes into open conflict with Cersei's regime so that she becomes far more aggressive and vengeful in turn, though she still resists his most bloodthirsty suggestions.

All this ramps up until the day Dany finally conquers kings landing and Cersei attempts to assassinate her and her advisers after the surrender....which Tyrion is entirely aware of thanks to Bronn tipping him off on Jamie's orders, yet does not tell Dany because he knows that a failed attempt at perfidy like this will ensure Dany will violently retaliate, so he simply ensures that when the attempt comes all her bodyguards are in the right place and on high alert.

Predictably however, things go horribly wrong due to the fact that the "surrender delegation" turns out to be something even Tyrion could never have predicted...FrankenClegane, and either the best soldiers Cersei has left or possibly even more Qyburn creations. All of whom ambush Dany and co under the cover of an angry mob of citizens.

The attempt results in almost half of Dany's friends and satellite characters being killed horribly, from Strong Belwas who dies shielding Dany as shit goes down, to Me Sundae who gets the nastiest death while Dany watches, to Daario who is probably the first to die, to maybe even Ser Barristan who sacrifices himself to get Dany to safety and then has a last stand against FrankenClegane

This results in Tyrion's plan working far too well as Dany is straight up insane with rage and grief now, and despite Tyrion trying to point her in Cersei's direction she has her dragons burn down over half the city as Tyrion watches in horror, only now realising just how badly he fucked up.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Yeah im so glad they edited out the plotline where Tyrion finds his first wife truly loved him and Jamie betrayed him to his father who then had a hundred soldiers rape her half to death as punishment, thus causing Tyrion to swear bloody revenge on his entire family, starting with murdering Tywin and gloating as he dies and then sailing off to join Dany's cause with the express intention of utterly selling out his family in exchange for the right to rape and murder Cersei when Dany won.

Who needs halfway interesting writing and character motivations when you have dick jokes and looking shocked?

Seriously though, of all the things that could have helped bring "dany burns kings landing" to the story in a realistic way, having Tyrion be an ultra warhawk obsessed with revenge against his family and the people of Kings Landing as a whole who steadily poison's Dany's mind as she comes into open conflict with Cersei's regime so that she becomes far more aggressive and vengeful in turn, though she still resists his most bloodthirsty suggestions.

All this ramps up until the day Dany finally conquers kings landing and Cersei attempts to assassinate her and her advisers after the surrender....which Tyrion is entirely aware of thanks to Bronn tipping him off on Jamie's orders, yet does not tell Dany because he knows that a failed attempt at perfidy like this will ensure Dany will violently retaliate, so he simply ensures that when the attempt comes all her bodyguards are in the right place and on high alert.

Predictably however, things go horribly wrong due to the fact that the "surrender delegation" turns out to be something even Tyrion could never have predicted...FrankenClegane, and either the best soldiers Cersei has left or possibly even more Qyburn creations. All of whom ambush Dany and co under the cover of an angry mob of citizens.

The attempt results in almost half of Dany's friends and satellite characters being killed horribly, from Strong Belwas who dies shielding Dany as shit goes down, to Me Sundae who gets the nastiest death while Dany watches, to Daario who is probably the first to die, to maybe even Ser Barristan who sacrifices himself to get Dany to safety and then has a last stand against FrankenClegane

This results in Tyrion's plan working far too well as Dany is straight up insane with rage and grief now, and despite Tyrion trying to point her in Cersei's direction she has her dragons burn down over half the city as Tyrion watches in horror, only now realising just how badly he fucked up.

That is so much better than anything proposed in this thread so far that I could almost see this being exactly what would happen if GRRM actually wrote.

 

[Mola Ram]

That is so much better than anything proposed in this thread so far that I could almost see this being exactly what would happen if GRRM actually wrote.

In a way the show was a victim of its own success. By the end of season 2 I would guess that the writers and producers were already leaning toward never, ever letting that version of Tyrion see the light of day, because he had become not just their most popuar character, but practically the face of the show. Remember the howling over Jaime and Cersei's little tete-a-tete over Joffrey's corpse, or the people who turned on the show after Sansa's wedding night? ("She looked so beautiful, too," mutters Bran.) Just imagine the pitchforks and torches after Dinklage demands he be allowed to rape Cersei.

I'm not saying it was a good thing or even a forgivable thing that they cleaned Tyrion up and made him a much less ambiguous character, but the fact is the further into the mainstream something gets the harder it becomes to maintain a real edge. They'll do occasional stuff for shock value (including Dany's unearned heel turn), but actually following a character like you describe for four seasons was clearly beyond the courage of the people behind the show.

 

[OttoWest]

The sad thing is a lot of these annihilated character arcs could have been improved even with the truncated season. Want to have Jaime going back to Cersei actually make sense? Kill Brienne. Don't even have them sleep together; have her die during the Long Night, maybe even while saving him. Have him guilt spiral, thinking he doesn't deserve love and this woman shouldn't have died protecting him. Crawling back to Cersei is all that's left to him. Oh, and cut that dumb shit about "I never cared about the innocents."

You don’t even have to fridge Brienne— just make Jaime’s motives clear AND consistent. Tragedy 101 The heart in conflict with itself: Guy running out on his chance for happiness because he’s compelled to comfort/aid/kill his sister in her final hours, possibly knowing it might kill him too. His bond to Cersei is still a fatal one, as the show takes pains to tell the audience but it avoids the pump-and-dump scenario.

 

[Mola Ram]

You don’t even have to fridge Brienne— just make Jaime’s motives clear AND consistent. Tragedy 101 The heart in conflict with itself: Guy running out on his chance for happiness because he’s compelled to comfort/aid/kill his sister in her final hours, possibly knowing it might kill him too. His bond to Cersei is still a fatal one, as the show takes pains to tell the audience but it avoids the pump-and-dump scenario.

"I love you, but I have to try to save her." It'd work. A lot of things would work better than "I'm a hateful prick. Fuck the innocent."

 

[Spatula]

I think this is the best clip so far.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

I've never seen actors so publicly disdainful of something they've been part of before. I thought they were contractually obligated to say everything is great all the time?

Wait that's a lie. I've seen this once before. George Clooney and his "I think we killed the franchise" after Batman Forever.

 

[Spatula]

I've never seen actors so publicly disdainful of something they've been part of before. I thought they were contractually obligated to say everything is great all the time?

Wait that's a lie. I've seen this once before. George Clooney and his "I think we killed the franchise" after Batman Forever.

Don't forget Mark Hamill.