Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

[El Señor de la Noche]

I did well for tuning in Le Mans instead of Formula

 

[Taurus 95]

It was a good race. I’ve never been a Hamilton fan but I gotta say I am really glad to see him win. He drove that Ferrari to its limits.

This race also showed Talibantonelli’s relative lack of experience as a youngster: he pushed way too hard in the end, which likely stressed the engine too much. Even if the engine held together he would likely still lose the podium to track limit penalties.

Kid is good. Way better than Russel at least. I can see why Toto handpicked him but he’s still got a lot to learn.

Will he pull a Schumacher and help Ferrari win the constructor? We'll see

Wishing for a constructor or driver for Ferrari is pretty much fairytale given their track record. Schumacher pretty much brought all the expertise from Benetton when he came to Ferrari, Lewis on the other hand just brought paparaci.

I DO think, however, Leclerc is hitting his Vettel phase at Ferrari due to being under so much pressure and torment for so long.

 

[D_Tractor]

Gaynigger turns straight, starts winning again.
Proof God hates fags?

 

[Kyria the Great]

E ven though this year is garbage and I'm not a Lewis fan, I'll say congratulations for a well deserved win especially given he's over 40 and past his prime. It'd be interesting if he assists in a Ferrari constructors, I'll be truly impressed.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

This is the most bullshit boring car in a decade of bullshit boring cars.

A third of the fuckers can't even finish and outside the top three teams you may as well be watching multi-spec like it's ISMA.

Say what you will about any other race but at least half the field could theoretically win the fucking thing.

There's zero reason to tune in to an F1 race just to watch someone win by 20 seconds unless the team lets their drivers yo-yo pass each other with trash electric regs or someone puts it into a wall because the same bullshit electric regs decided the car should randomly double rpm for half a second.

mercedes loves this because they can take the battery and recuperation tech and sell it to you in a $200k 3-ton fully electric suv filled with touch screens and microtransactions for heated seats and there are plenty of rich gay retards who will buy it for their plastic bimbo girlfriends. there are also armies of teens and tweens who beg daddy or blow their instagram influencer money for a chance to have russhole or antonelli wave in their general direction in monaco, and liberty media loves that too because it prints money. the majority of f1 "fans" dont remember when the sport used to be about the cars rather than the drivers social media, and they dont care. the evolution of f1 has entered a really gay state of equilibrium where people interested in good motorsport get fucking nothing and no one cares or wants to change anything about it.

f1 had massive gaps in performance between teams and reliability issues all throughout its golden years, the difference is that even the shitty cars used to be cool as hell and there was a lot more variety in terms of design and engineering choices. there used to be a time when you had 3+ completely different engine architectures in the same race, different tire manufacturers, different everything as long as the cars still adhered to "formula one." some were shit, but they were shit because the design turned out not to be very competitive, not because the team failed to implement the gay convoluted hybrid system mandated by the regs quite as effectively as one of the worlds largest car manufacturers did because they really like it and want it there to keep this shit "road relevant."

I did well for tuning in Le Mans instead of Formula

verstappen probably wishes he had done as you did

 

[Historical Strelkov]

Yeah this is not something to be proud of. England only wins when everyone else loses, that’s true though.

 

[Not A Bunny]

Okay, no Kimi win, but Lewis winning is basically the Monkey's Paw of the Universe telling ol' Not a Bunny here to fuck off and find something else to do.

Kimi's probably whatever, since he's doing fine in the standings, but this season is proving so far that none of the expected winners based on last year are bubbling up to the surface, which is what my fundamental problem is so far this year. If it's really down to what team met the regulations best rather than who the best driver is, I don't see the point of rooting for anyone at all, because the drivers don't matter as much as the cars do.

(Yes, someone can argue with me that it probably has always been that way, but if that's the case, then why do we speak about past drivers more than we talk about the teams they were on?)

only 14 cars finished the race

I was out doing other stuff this morning, so...yikes.

the majority of f1 "fans" dont remember when the sport used to be about the cars rather than the drivers social media, and they dont care.

Yeah, I'm trying not to let the "fans" get to me, but this is the way the world works and I'm trying hard not to let stupid people ruin my enjoyment of things. F1 is doing that all on its own.

Charles has this cunty way of telling his side of the garage that they fucked up and ruin his race because of it. It's funny but I imagine people won't do great working with a guy with that kind of attitude.

This season is really making me root against him, even though I know I'd be a fan if he just nutted up for once. Lewis being more successful more consistently this season makes me think that somehow he's been the problem all along, and Ferrari made a huge mistake signing him for more years, or more alarmingly doesn't give a shit - which, if the latter, makes me kind of hate Ferrari. This dimwit is playing piano and selling ice cream, but does he give a shit about driving, like, at all?

And, to my point above - does that really matter if drivers don't matter as racers more than social media personalities?

One more thing - my prediction about Williams trading DNFs this season so far seems to be mostly correct. The Not a Bunny Monkey's Paw strikes hard and true.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

If it's really down to what team met the regulations best rather than who the best driver is, I don't see the point of rooting for anyone at all, because the drivers don't matter as much as the cars do.

its always like this in the first year or two of new regs. the critical difference is that these regs are fucking dumb and gay and having the best car under these regs doesnt really feel like an admirable accomplishment unless you happen to be an engineer. wow, i guess merc has a better computer that optimizes load on the battery or something and their electric motor whistles slightly faster as a result. thats, like, cool i guess. it still sounds like a broken vacuum cleaner, loses a third of its power halfway down the finish straight of any average circuit, and is slower than last years cars. from an outside view the car is somehow faster to leave all the rest in the dust because it just is. thats not very interesting.

This dimwit is playing piano and selling ice cream, but does he give a shit about driving, like, at all?

And, to my point above - does that really matter if drivers don't matter as racers more than social media personalities?

for sure he cares to a degree at least but at this point him remaining in ferrari has to be a mix of stockholm syndrome, sunk cost fallacy and a fear of appearing washed out if he were to switch teams. he doesnt have a great attitude towards his own team, often acts openly combative and even after nearly a decade of racing he still hasnt reached the potential most people thought he had. i dont think many other teams would be interested in signing him on anymore. not that ferrari didnt often deserve a kick in the ass for their retardation in the past 6-7 years but he isnt helping very much.
hes stuck between a rock and a hard place and to a degree he did it to himself. hes making a fuckton of money off it though which is why he probably copes by just not caring much. he still has a huge fanclub of mostly instagram chicks

 

[DiabeticSydePhil]

for sure he cares to a degree at least but at this point him remaining in ferrari has to be a mix of stockholm syndrome, sunk cost fallacy and a fear of appearing washed out if he were to switch teams. he doesnt have a great attitude towards his own team, often acts openly combative and even after nearly a decade of racing he still hasnt reached the potential most people thought he had. i dont think many other teams would be interested in signing him on anymore. not that ferrari didnt often deserve a kick in the ass for their retardation in the past 6-7 years but he isnt helping very much

There's only 4-6 truly competitive seats in F1 at any given moment and he's in one of them. Where would he go unless Mercedes/McLaren suddenly had an opening? It's basically a roll of the dice to determine which manufacturer has the clearly dominant car each year.

You may as well sit at Ferrari and enjoy the prestige and hope there's a year the team unfucks itself (or Mercedes/McLaren both make garbage cars).

Your only other option is to go to some team like Red Bull and hope they develop (cheat) a car into being the best for a year or two.

The sport is regulated in a way to ensure that only the few teams that matter will ever win anything at all and even then the performance isn't that close.

A better sport (like nascar or indy or imsa) would have a handful of races each year where any given driver in the top half of the field could nail strategy or pace and get a podium to be proud of.

When's the last time a car that wasn't Mercedes/McLaren/Ferrari/Red Bull won a race?

2021, Alpine won a single race and before that 2020 when AlphaTauri won a race (due to the fucky regulations that let midpack teams compete). But 2020 and 2021 were weirdly competitive years and the regulations have changed to make sure that doesn't happen again.

Going back before that, outside those four teams won a race? 2013 when Kimi won with Lotus.

Basically, from a racing perspective the series is shit, but from a driver perspective? You have practically zero chance of winning outside the top three teams and those teams ALSO pay best. So there's no reason to ever leave them.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

Basically, from a racing perspective the series is shit, but from a driver perspective? You have practically zero chance of winning outside the top three teams and those teams ALSO pay best. So there's no reason to ever leave them.

what im saying is there was a point when he wouldve almost certainly been able to get in a different and more consistently competitive top team but by now that ship has sailed. hes firmly stuck with ferrari probably until he retires, because i dont see him being willing to pull a bottas and become a test driver for a new team of backmarkers.

 

[AN/ALR56]

Honestly it's peak Nu-F1 when 2 of the most hated drivers the past 12 years due them constantly whining and moaning despite winning (LH and MV) still have more charisma and popular appeal than anyone one of the newfags after Sainz and Leclerc.

I hated LH winning every single race, i liked when MV won his first championship but it became fucking boring when even when he started at 15th, he would magically drive +20s per lap over others and end up in P1 like he wasn't paying attention i mean look at this shit:

 

[AN/ALR56]

what im saying is there was a point when he wouldve almost certainly been able to get in a different and more consistently competitive top team but by now that ship has sailed. hes firmly stuck with ferrari probably until he retires, because i dont see him being willing to pull a bottas and become a test driver for a new team of backmarkers.

And that isn't a bad career move overall unless he seriously wants a WDC, Ferrari salary and prestige is a WDC of it's own.

Also if current medicine and training can make Alonso drive at F1 at peak in his mid 40s, specially tard-wrangling terrible cars into above and beyond places most of the time (unless the car is probably 200hp less than even the worst backmarker and it breaks your wrists due to vibration, even he can't do miracles) Leclerc still has unti his mid 40s at least in F1 and at least his mid 50s in any other category, like le mans.

 

[PFM]

the majority of f1 "fans" dont remember when the sport used to be about the cars rather than the drivers social media, and they dont care. the evolution of f1 has entered a really gay state of equilibrium where people interested in good motorsport get fucking nothing and no one cares or wants to change anything about it.

f1 had massive gaps in performance between teams and reliability issues all throughout its golden years, the difference is that even the shitty cars used to be cool as hell and there was a lot more variety in terms of design and engineering choices. there used to be a time when you had 3+ completely different engine architectures in the same race, different tire manufacturers, different everything as long as the cars still adhered to "formula one." some were shit, but they were shit because the design turned out not to be very competitive, not because the team failed to implement the gay convoluted hybrid system mandated by the regs quite as effectively as one of the worlds largest car manufacturers did because they really like it and want it there to keep this shit "road relevant."

As someone who is new to motorsports and doesn't watch F1, I knew something extremely faggoty was going on with F1 I just couldn't put my finger on it.

 

[Bob_]

Congrats to Lewis, but I didn't even realise the race was on last weekend. This season can't end quickly enough, I wonder if 2027 will be any better

 

[Coccxys]

Congrats to Lewis, but I didn't even realise the race was on last weekend. This season can't end quickly enough, I wonder if 2027 will be any better

As long as Russell gets curb stomped and we get the resulting crying radio message once Kimi secures it I'll be happy.

 

[Bob_]

As long as Russell gets curb stomped and we get the resulting crying radio message once Kimi secures it I'll be happy.

Usually I'd be into someone as young as Kimi doing so well, but I just don't care. Maybe whatever happened to Oscar last year (I'm aussie) is still negatively affecting me

 

[Not A Bunny]

Usually I'd be into someone as young as Kimi doing so well, but I just don't care. Maybe whatever happened to Oscar last year (I'm aussie) is still negatively affecting me

I'd be fine with Kimi doing this well, if he had been doing that well last year also. Last year all the talk was about Oscar. Now where is Oscar? Not even close to the top of the pile, and it's hardly his fault.

So, if it's not his fault that there's no continuity of driver skill and success, why root for anyone if that status can be taken away this easily? May as well pick a driver name out of a hat for who you support.

And again: I'm not a Kimi hater. I think he's a talented driver, and if he takes home the WDC this year, it's awful that he's getting asterisked for it. It's not like he's in a Mercedes driving like Lance Stroll. But if the regs had been shifted to 2027 instead, we'd still be talking about a Max vs. McLaren rematch. And it's the lack of continuity that's so frustrating.

 

[Coccxys]

Mclaren have appealed the successful appeal Alpine made to get Gasly his podium back.

Going one better Mercedes have appealed the entire race result which I'm sure Kimi loves.

There is no mechanism to undo a penalty served during the race (for many obvious reasons) but with the reversal of the post race penalty for Gasly it fucks up the whole penalty system.

 

[A.P. Hill]

Pro tip: In case you're a lazy bastard and think torrenting is too much effort, Chase Sapphire card members just got free Apple TV. Something tells me they're hurting for subscribers.

Still an absolutely retarded move to go streaming-exclusive in America, but it ended up working out for me.

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

Mercedes have appealed the entire race result which I'm sure Kimi loves.