Food Stamp (SNAP) Revocations - Sombody's gotta feed my five kids.

Estado
No está abierto para más respuestas.
Except they did to a hilarious degree, the only thing they stopped were people buying as much stuff as possible to prevent hoarding. They even mandated how restaurants could serve meals and what said meals consisted of due to rich Londoners eating out several times a week to supplement their rations.

You were typically getting 8oz of Bacon or ham a week and you had a hard upper limit of 1 shilling's worth of meat, meaning you could afford 2 small chops for an entire week.

Margarine and Butter were limited to 4oz per person of both a week and you got 3 pints of tard cum a week, encouraging you to drink more tard cum.

Fruit, vegetables were not rationed but supplies for stuff out-of-season became harder to maintain, to the point Oranges were reserved for children and pregnant women.

You were then encouraged to dig up your back garden and grow your own food (which obviously was whatever-the-fuck-you-want).

Never mind the fucking magic that was The National Loaf.

The only thing which was never truly rationed were fish and chip shops which people typically ate on Fridays and considerable amounts of resources were spent protecting the fishing fleet.

If it was as dramatic as spergs claim, that would be a way of kicking the poor down while still clinging to socialist ideals, denying them from selling EBT or buying whatever the fuck they wanted and basically making it so only fruit and veg were open to them in near unlimited quantities and mandating them to tiny amounts of meat to encourage healthier living.
All of which was decentralized to local butchers and stores.
 
Digging up information on these SNAP changes is pretty hard because people on both sides are either celebrating the changes or screeching loudly about them. I found this screenshot from this article that summarizes what's in the food box.

Ver archivo adjunto 382763

So it's not a matter of completely revoking a family's EBT card and replacing it with a box of shitty food, it's a hybrid of the government issuing them a box of "basic" food necessities, making a slight cut to their monthly tugboat, and still issuing a credit to their EBT card every month. This seems to be a method to ensure that EBT recipients are at least getting some basic nutrition because I am well aware that there are welfare recipients who blow their food stamps on stupid shit.

It's not thrilling, but it's food. "Shelf-stable tard cum" is a euphemism for powdered tard cum, which is fucking nasty. The rest of the example food seems reasonable I guess. When I was very young I remember my family received literal "government cheese" (among other items) and it was the grossest shit on the planet though, so it's a crap shoot. It's pretty staggering what you can actually spent food stamps on. There's lots of things that seem like stuff you shouldn't be able to buy but still can (e.g. blatant junk food). If anything I feel like it would be a better idea to model the SNAP/EBT program off of Texas' WIC (women, infants, and children) program. WIC recipients actually get things like fresh produce and dairy, and their "food stamps" are limited strictly to things like juice, baby food, and stuff with actual nutritional value.
I could see a lot of this food in the box going to waste. For example, people who dont consume animal products won't be able to use half the stuff they're given. Unless you would be able to choose items from a list of different food they have to offer, I dont agree with uncle sam choosing what diet people should be on..
 
I love trump for his shitposting. No other president has matched it and only in one year.

But his motto was kill 2 regulations for 1 and guy, the government buying food boxes for food stamps is going to cost more than the current system.

It's dumb, dumb, dumb.
 
suddenly doing an about face on the issue

Whats you talking about Willis? These virtue signalers still will still gleefully ignore the issue of school lunch.
upload_2018-2-14_14-16-49.png


And this was in 2015.
https://www.artinstitutes.edu/about/blog/unhealthy-school-lunches-not-making-the-grade

and guess what, they are still just as bad.
upload_2018-2-14_14-19-9.png

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/362434-usda-delays-healthy-school-lunch-requirements
 
Digging up information on these SNAP changes is pretty hard because people on both sides are either celebrating the changes or screeching loudly about them. I found this screenshot from this article that summarizes what's in the food box.

Ver archivo adjunto 382763

So it's not a matter of completely revoking a family's EBT card and replacing it with a box of shitty food, it's a hybrid of the government issuing them a box of "basic" food necessities, making a slight cut to their monthly tugboat, and still issuing a credit to their EBT card every month. This seems to be a method to ensure that EBT recipients are at least getting some basic nutrition because I am well aware that there are welfare recipients who blow their food stamps on stupid shit.

It's not thrilling, but it's food. "Shelf-stable tard cum" is a euphemism for powdered tard cum, which is fucking nasty. The rest of the example food seems reasonable I guess. When I was very young I remember my family received literal "government cheese" (among other items) and it was the grossest shit on the planet though, so it's a crap shoot. It's pretty staggering what you can actually spent food stamps on. There's lots of things that seem like stuff you shouldn't be able to buy but still can (e.g. blatant junk food). If anything I feel like it would be a better idea to model the SNAP/EBT program off of Texas' WIC (women, infants, and children) program. WIC recipients actually get things like fresh produce and dairy, and their "food stamps" are limited strictly to things like juice, baby food, and stuff with actual nutritional value.

90$ in food and americans are bitching? for fuck sake that is 100 times the minimum wage here, they dont know the great advantage to at least HAVE food

You count as an American to non Americans. Also wtf is in that shit.

Depends on the month and the state where you are but the basic set is m.ilk (sometimes is powdered sometimes is liquid), flour, pasta, beans,sugar, cooking oil,tomato sauce, mayonaise and canned tuna in some place you can get toilet paper and soap

The most funny thing about our box is that Chavez and Maduro (and even in the damn box) stated that the box is 100% venezuelan and help to protect the common people, far from it, the last box i received all of the products where from Mexico, recently is a weird combination, the flour is from Mexico, the oil is from Ukraine, the sugar is Brazilian, the pasta is from Turkey (i laughed when i checked that there is a HALAL logo in the package), the beans are from a chilean company but because Chile hate us is in reality brought from Bolivia where the products is also been selled, the milk is still from mexico and now only appears in towns that have proved their loyalty to the government and now are more and more scarse because Maduro doesnt have money to import them
 
All of which was decentralized to local butchers and stores.

But controlled and mandated by the Ministry of Food via the ration book. Food production and its shipment was also mandated by the Ministries of Agriculture and Food. Just because the end dude was the same didn't mean it wasn't hilariously centralized. The whole war-time experience changed attitudes in the country to the point we wasted 40 years thinking centralisation and nationalisation were always good ideas.
 
As someone who is on food stamps ( and on disability) I have mixed feelings about this. I don't get much and this could probably make things worse. I do agree there has to be some sort of reform to the welfare system and that there probably is a better way solution to that problem out there. I agree that there are many that abuse EBT as I have seen it myself and it pisses me off as well.

As for the boxes, I definitely think it's going to be less like blue apron and more like "commodities" that you can get from the pantry. Commodities being things like peanut butter, powdered milk, canned meats etc. Not much to make a meal out of. It would be nice if they planned on giving us fresh produce and such but would that work?
 
But controlled and mandated by the Ministry of Food via the ration book. Food production and its shipment was also mandated by the Ministries of Agriculture and Food. Just because the end dude was the same didn't mean it wasn't hilariously centralized. The whole war-time experience changed attitudes in the country to the point we wasted 40 years thinking centralisation and nationalisation were always good ideas.
Food is still purchased from the private market at normal market rate. The centralization is a matter of selection and delivery. There is no choice in the matter at all unlike WW2 rationing, excluding any additional foodstamps.
 
Really this hurts the elderly, the disabled, and children the most. I understand that some people abuse the system and that sucks, but punishing people who use the program as intended isn't the way to go.
The work for foodstamps program is a good one, as it requires those who recieve foodstamps to work for them, while exempting the disabled and people truly unable to work. That seems like a better solution than this box bullshit.
 
I'm not getting why receiving food is a bad thing. The virtue signalling tweets make it sound like Trump is letting everyone starve.

It's mostly a case of removing the ability to choose how they use a portion of their (state given) money. Nobody ever likes losing the ability to choose over someone choosing for them. So the response is sort of natural, more so if you really were playing by the rules while everyone else played the system.

That said while this idea seems nice on paper it sounds like a logistical nightmare, how will you get those boxes to everyone? Would cost the Gov a bunch to send them on it's own. That's before you even get into vegan and allergy friendly needs.
 
It's mostly a case of removing the ability to choose how they use a portion of their (state given) money. Nobody ever likes losing the ability to choose over someone choosing for them. So the response is sort of natural, more so if you really were playing by the rules while everyone else played the system.

That said while this idea seems nice on paper it sounds like a logistical nightmare, how will you get those boxes to everyone? Would cost the Gov a bunch to send them on it's own. That's before you even get into vegan and allergy friendly needs.


I agree here. The private market is providing the food and the government are providing the subsidies via the AG deparetment. If you go full government involvement then it will be a fucking disaster.
 
Yeah, honestly the people who get the EBT, sell the EBT, and let their fucking kids go hungry is why I think this isn't the world's worst idea. I mean, maybe they'd sell their box of government food? I don't know it it would help or not, but it might?
Why would they sell the box, though? Who would even want it? If half of it is sub-par gross shit I don't know who would be chomping at the bit to get their hands on gobbermint foods. Just a thought, though. Some people are fucking weird.
 
I have also heard people insist that it should be beans and rice only if you are living off everyone else's taxes.
I don't advocate for that, but it wouldn't break my heart if it was. Welfare and the like are meant as a safety net to keep you/your family from going hungry and starving in bad times.

If all I got to eat for free was Beans and Rice, It'd motivate the fuck out of me to make some money so I could have a god damn cheeseburger.
 
Food Stamps have been a clusterfuck in NY since god was a baby. For the uninitiated, NY took almost three years after they were passed to actually implement them, such was how much lawmakers in Albany hated the fucking program, and shit's been even worse since.

The actual income brackets for them haven't been adjusted for inflation since the fucking 1980s and NY's version of the program is as broken as the Sphinx's nose. So you can be more than halfway below the federal poverty line and still make too much according to the state to qualify for Food Stamps. But don't worry, NY found plenty of other ways to fuck things up beyond this: a single dude that otherwise qualifies often gets around $20 a month, if that, and the sheer volume of benefits women are entitled to in contrast means there are many recorded cases of them getting several times that amount with basically the same qualifications.

In fact, the way NY's SNAP benefits are such a clusterfuck that they're predominantly responsible for NY having so much robust support for Food Pantries. It's kind of fucked up when you stop and think about it because despite all the hullabaloo, the government of several very decidedly left-leaning states can't be arsed.

For many applicants in NY, this change will effect them exactly 0%.
 
Estado
No está abierto para más respuestas.
Atrás
Top Abajo