US Five Oregon Counties Vote to Secede and Join Idaho

Originally written by Michael Patrick Leahy on May 19, 2021

Five rural Oregon counties voted on Tuesday to secede from the state of Oregon and join the state of Idaho.

The Idaho Statesman reported:
Thousands of people in eastern Oregon voted Tuesday for their elected officials to consider ditching their state and becoming part of Idaho.
Voters in Sherman, Lake, Grant, Baker and Malheur counties all voted for ballot measures that would lead to them becoming Idahoans. People in Union and Jefferson counties had already voted in favor during the November election. . .
The vote is only the first step of the “Greater Idaho” project, which would allow some Oregon counties to join a state that advocates say more closely aligns with their political preferences.
Breitbart News reported in April that a political action committee and a new 501 c 4 non profit group are driving efforts that will allow rural counties in Oregon to join Idaho:
Move Oregon’s Border is a Political Action Committee formed in 2019 that focuses on Oregon ballot initiatives. In March, Move Oregon’s Border founder Michael McCarter announced the establishment of a 501 c 4, Citizens for Greater Idaho, which will focus “on Idaho, Oregon, and beyond, to support the vision of Move Oregon’s Border.” . . .
Petitions gathered by Move Oregon’s Border have forced the placement of ballot initiatives to change the border between Oregon and Idaho for consideration by voters in nine Oregon counties.
Ballot initiatives to change the border between Oregon and Idaho have already been voted on in four Oregon counties. Two counties (Union and Jefferson) voted in favor of moving the border in November, while two additional counties (Douglas and Wallowa) voted against changing the border.
On May 18, the ballot initiative to change the border between Oregon and Idaho will be voted on in five additional counties: Baker, Lake, Grant, Malheur, and Sherman.
“Move Oregon’s Border continues to collect signatures in seven other counties where no vote has occurred yet: Curry, Josephine, Jackson, Klamath, Harney, Morrow, and Umatilla counties,” the group’s website states.
Move Oregon’s Border founder and president of Citizens for Greater Idaho Mike McCarter said in a statement released on the group’s website on Wednesday:
This election proves that rural Oregon wants out of Oregon. If Oregon really believes in liberal values such as self-determination, the Legislature won’t hold our counties captive against our will. If we’re allowed to vote for which government officials we want, we should be allowed to vote for which government we want as well.
The statement added:
The election results this week were much stronger than the results in November. “We got on the ballot too early in those counties, before voters had heard of the idea, and before we could educate them on the benefits of joining Idaho, and before we had money for ads. The results this week prove that we were right to spend a little money on educating the voters in these counties. We only spent a tenth of the spending per voter that a typical state senator campaign spends, but it was enough. Now we need to raise funds for the next counties. Greater Idaho will be on the ballot in Douglas, Harney, and probably several other counties where citizens are still collecting signatures or asking county commissioners to put it on the ballot,” McCarter said. “Crook County commissioners invited us to a meeting next week to discuss putting it on the ballot.”
In Oregon, several state legislators have been quoted in the press in support of the border relocation. Reasons the Oregon Legislature should want to let rural Oregon join Idaho were given by McCarter: “In 2019, the average northwestern Oregonian wage-earner subsidized eastern/southern Oregon counties by $367 per year. Are they willing to keep paying that, just so that Oregon looks big on a map? Letting these counties go would mean the Oregon Legislature would avoid gridlock when Republican legislators walk out to try to deny a quorum. We list more reasons at greateridaho.org”
“The signature-gathering effort ‘to gain political refuge from blue states, was hampered last year due to the coronavirus pandemic, but it’s now picking up some momentum. Several prominent elected officials in Idaho, including Gov. Brad Little, have expressed support for the movement,” Oregon Live reported on Wednesday.

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Probably a computer reconstruction, like this:
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I like maps.
 
holy shit, is CA that big of a fucking leech, or is it so retarded it can't do shit on it's own and needs other states to give it support to survive?
Seconding the "Yes to both" from earlier.
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Not all Californians suck, but the ones that don't suck? You'd never know they were from California. The vote like the locals, act like the locals, have similar values.
But the Californian's you know are Californians? They're always trying to change shit to be more like California. They're condescending assholes who think they know best, then move to another state, keep voting the same way, and then get those dumbass tattoos that look like this:
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(For non-burgers, that's the California bear with the Colorado state flag)
Bro let me explain the history of California water management to you in one image. The central valley was a lake in 1851.
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And it should be again. We just need to cut a trench right here:
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Maybe get some of Eastern WA in there, decent farmland and really not as much of a shithole as west of the Cascades/the Puget Sound area. It'd be a shame to leave Mason County to the fuckheads but whatever, the Indians can take the whole thing and make a res out of it or something. Idk.
 
And it should be again. We just need to cut a trench right here:
All that water is tied up in irrigataion systems, they totally removed it from the water cycle of the California ecosystem. In other satellite reconstructions you can see up to 80% reduction in glacial ice on the Sierra Nevadas. Imagine if I just took 80% of the water out of your body. You'd have the human health equivalent of wildfires too.
 
Some of you don't know what you are talking about.

The only places where California gets water from other states are along the Klamath River (none of which enters the Sacramento River drainage) and along the Colorado River.

Californians are not responsible for y'alls fucked up water situations. We are encouraged to store rain water here. The shit you have in other states where you don't own the rain that hits your own roof? That's not us.

We grow a shitton of produce. A lot of the rice and almonds are exported to China.

We also grow a shitton of trees for lumber. The decline of the timber industry has many causes, but a big part of it is mechanization. Four men can clear a hillside in a week, a job it used to take 20 men all summer to do.

That asinine proposal to split California into six states would have created two of the poorest states in the country, Jefferson being one of them.

I was on the fence about Jefferson for a while, then I sat down with the numbers. I've never seen a proposal for Jefferson that would have over a million people. The tax base would be timber, marijuana, cattle, and sugar beets, but unless there was a new federal law allowing weed sales to other states, they'd be selling weed to each other. They'd have to fund and manage their own road system, which is eternally getting wiped out by landslides. If Humboldt joined Jefferson, then there would be two universities, Humboldt and Chico, neither one of which is a PhD-granting university. No law school, no medical school. They'd have to come up with shit like a bar association, a medical board, and a DMV. They'd have to write all their own laws and regulations. They'd have a pretty good prison system set up, but it would belong to California and I don't know how that would work. The federal government would own at least half of the land which would limit the state's flexibility in resource management. The biggest city would be Redding. Existing California is corrupt as fuck, but Jefferson would be founded by a bunch of assholes in cowboy hats, holy rollers, and Qtards.

TL; DR, the people in Jefferson do not want to pay for all the shit that setting up a new state would cost.
 
Bro let me explain the history of California water management to you in one image. The central valley was a lake in 1851.
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That hurts to look at. How incompetent do you have to be to mismanage water like that? I guess I understand now why the Red counties in California will never be allowed to fuck off and make their own state.
Those damn Californian dinosaurs sucked up all the water too, they've always been leeches.
Californian dinosaurs were probably responsible for the meteor too.
That looks beautiful. Also what was the reasoning behind the Montana-Idaho border, that shit is horrendous.
 
That hurts to look at. How incompetent do you have to be to mismanage water like that? I guess I understand now why the Red counties in California will never be allowed to fuck off and make their own state.

Californian dinosaurs were probably responsible for the meteor too.

That looks beautiful. Also what was the reasoning behind the Montana-Idaho border, that shit is horrendous.
Looks like a river. Snake River? Not sure.
 
That hurts to look at. How incompetent do you have to be to mismanage water like that? I guess I understand now why the Red counties in California will never be allowed to fuck off and make their own state.

People back in the day did not know what they were doing.


Most of the really nasty environmental shit in the state happened in the 1800s, then the completion of large dam projects between 1900-1970 in some ways tried to mitigate the damage but it also created new problems.

They had to raise Sacramento up a story because the gold mining both washed all the sediment out into the Valley but also created really flashy systems in the foothills.
 
Maybe get some of Eastern WA in there, decent farmland and really not as much of a shithole as west of the Cascades/the Puget Sound area. It'd be a shame to leave Mason County to the fuckheads but whatever, the Indians can take the whole thing and make a res out of it or something. Idk.

I really feel for Spokane in all of this, they alongside the Couer d'Alene area are gorgeous locations and much better off than the pozzed Canadian Kootenays. Telling Seattle to go fuck itself would be a good step in the right direction.
 
People back in the day did not know what they were doing.


Most of the really nasty environmental shit in the state happened in the 1800s, then the completion of large dam projects between 1900-1970 in some ways tried to mitigate the damage but it also created new problems.

They had to raise Sacramento up a story because the gold mining both washed all the sediment out into the Valley but also created really flashy systems in the foothills.
And what did we get in return? Bakersfield, Visalia, and Fresno. Gee.
 
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