Final Fantasy XIV - Kiwi Free Company

Did you just beat Praetorium or are you heading into Ishgard/HW? Because ARR (like all expansions) has two sections one is the base story that was released on launch and the rest is a culmination of patch updates throughout a usually two year cycle. Usually the base game is referred to as 2.0/3.0/4.0/5.0 depending on the expansion and the rest vary between X.1-X.55 which reflect a particular patch.
Praetorium. I'm slowly working through the 2.x content. Just did Good King Mog the other night. The story is good for MMO standards, which isn't saying much, and is miles ahead of the nonsense that's been emblematic of WoW for forever.
 
Praetorium. I'm slowly working through the 2.x content. Just did Good King Mog the other night. The story is good for MMO standards, which isn't saying much, and is miles ahead of the nonsense that's been emblematic of WoW for forever.
One of the best things about it vs WoW is that it takes its lore seriously and there are basically no hard retcons. You're rewarded for actually paying attention and almost every story beat you encounter later on will have some basis in ARR.

Also Heavensward is absolutely bananas if you're into high fantasy.
 
making crystal tower required to progress the MSQ was a mistake
I'm going to eat that penalty in the roulette every single time rather than sit there bored out of my skull for 30+ minutes with some lobotomy patients
 
I'm going to eat that penalty in the roulette every single time rather than sit there bored out of my skull for 30+ minutes with some lobotomy patients

Sounds like a plan at this point rather than spending another minute in Prae with a bunch of random spregs spouting alot of shit. Specially if one group's going around calling a run a "Murder Party" while acting like psychopaths.

It's making trying to catch up and prep for Endwalker a mental chore. Specially with three characters to boot.
 
making crystal tower required to progress the MSQ was a mistake
I'm going to eat that penalty in the roulette every single time rather than sit there bored out of my skull for 30+ minutes with some lobotomy patients
Just wait until the Wiping City of Mhach and Orobonne MonasteREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE become required for MSQ as well. You don't think they're really going to leave the 13th and the IVth Legion plot hooks hanging once 7.0 rolls around, do you?
 
Just wait until the Wiping City of Mhach and Orobonne MonasteREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE become required for MSQ as well. You don't think they're really going to leave the 13th and the IVth Legion plot hooks hanging once 7.0 rolls around, do you?
Don't tempt them, for they'll twist the knife further and make the Nier raids a requirement too.
 
Orobonne MonasteREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
they'll nerf every single boss in those instances to the point where you can take 'em down with a motley crew of no-partner dancers, freeze mages, and freestyle sams reapers alongside no-cooldown tanks and curebot sages if they ever do that. It feels like the spinny ball in mhach was already nerfed to the point where you could have retards doublestack meteors and everything will still be alright as-is
It's making trying to catch up and prep for Endwalker a mental chore. Specially with three characters to boot.
crafted gear is good enough for me, and I'm so, so close to getting a samurai to bozja level so I can just ignore everyone because being unable to be the tank in pugs is suffering
but at the same time, just waiting on EW and boosting grows more attractive by the day for all the other DPS shit I want
 
Don't tempt them, for they'll twist the knife further and make the Nier raids a requirement too.
No, that's for 8.0 when Nomura finally takes the wheel and has the entire MSQ take place in a Data World accessed via Nier macguffns. The entire plotline will be about you helping a new Warrior of Light and Darkness named Sora.
 
making crystal tower required to progress the MSQ was a mistake
I'm going to eat that penalty in the roulette every single time rather than sit there bored out of my skull for 30+ minutes with some lobotomy patients
What the hell type of runs do you get? My runs are 20 minutes if I get WoD and 15 if I get the other two.

I personally liked CT being required from a narrative perspective because it made all these side quest lines actually add something to the overall plot instead of having big expansive implications that are stuck in a time bubble forever doing nothing. It sort of makes me somewhat excited that at any point they might bring up these plot lines again, I'm personally interested in how they go with the IVth legion considering how much they've been building that up for the last 4 years.

No, that's for 8.0 when Nomura finally takes the wheel and has the entire MSQ take place in a Data World accessed via Nier macguffns. The entire plotline will be about you helping a new Warrior of Light and Darkness named Sora.
I would give up on this plot so damn fast if Nomura gets put in charge of it. This game as almost as much parallel cosmic light vs dark bullshit as KH yet it actually makes a decent degree of sense and is cohesive with its rules. Which would be ruined by Nomura's tendency to do off the wall bullshit for the fuck of it and then conclude it all like the wet fart that is KH3. Stormblood already nearly lost me 4 years ago for how much it just went on about "Empire bad" for about 40 hours straight.
 
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What the hell type of runs do you get? My runs are 20 minutes if I get WoD and 15 if I get the other two.
I've gotten to the point where LotA is now on my 'Duty Abandon' list if I get and I'm in a sufficiently bad mood. Seeing a ton of wipes against the three atomos even after telling everyone in alliance chat to wait until everyone's arrived to pull has got me seriously tilted. I think I'd rather run Copied Factory or Rabanastre than Labyrinth of the Ancients these days.
 
I've gotten to the point where LotA is now on my 'Duty Abandon' list if I get and I'm in a sufficiently bad mood. Seeing a ton of wipes against the three atomos even after telling everyone in alliance chat to wait until everyone's arrived to pull has got me seriously tilted. I think I'd rather run Copied Factory or Rabanastre than Labyrinth of the Ancients these days.
LotA is a joke for me and all my runs go generally well, everything just dies so fast. Once when one group lost half their group due to early pulling the atomos, they just held out until the other two parties finished so they didn't have to stand on the pad. I can't even fathom how LotA goes bad unless people legit AFK or something.

Is this a Crystal problem? That's the only data center I've never played on and I've heard generally bad things.
 
LotA is a joke for me and all my runs go generally well, everything just dies so fast. Once when one group lost half their group due to early pulling the atomos, they just held out until the other two parties finished so they didn't have to stand on the pad. I can't even fathom how LotA goes bad unless people legit AFK or something.

Is this a Crystal problem? That's the only data center I've never played on and I've heard generally bad things.
I've only ever seen King Behemoth frequently go sideways in Labyrinth runs, and that's just because nobody wants to be the one holding the Colossus and everyone forgets that the Colossus can destroy meteors. Syrcus Tower and World of Darkness are usually braindead affairs in my experience. Could very well be a Crystal thing, or Fcret is just incredibly unlucky with queues.
 
Is this a Crystal problem? That's the only data center I've never played on and I've heard generally bad things.
I saw it on primal as well. I think it's more of a late night problem (which is usually when I run roulettes) where people just aren't reading alliance chat. It's not something that happens very often, but if I'm in a bad mood (say, after fishing for Praetorium and instead getting CM four times in a row), a bad LotA run kills my desire to continue playing for the rest of the day.

LotA and WoD both have kind of the same problem in this respect - there's a couple parts where you absolutely have to pay attention or you wipe the raid but the encounters are so nerfed due to potency creep that people tend to turn their brains off. That's also why I prefer getting Mhach or Orbonne - people might wipe due to not knowing mechanics but no one turns their brain off when they get it.
 
What the hell type of runs do you get? My runs are 20 minutes if I get WoD and 15 if I get the other two.
the types of runs where if you're playing the RIVETING ACTION of a level 50 paladin going 1-2-3, you're beating out about 12 of the 15 DPS in damage with maybe 1 healer actually doing damage rather than standing around

wipes are what push them to 30 minutes (like, say, other tanks raging that their freestyle threat can't keep up and voking to cleave the raid), but even sitting around for 20 is insufferable knowing that half of the people are completely useless. Since the summer, I've had exactly one CT raid that was full of actually competent people, and it completed what felt like ten minutes at most. I was sure I was having a stroke
 
LotA is a joke for me and all my runs go generally well, everything just dies so fast. Once when one group lost half their group due to early pulling the atomos, they just held out until the other two parties finished so they didn't have to stand on the pad. I can't even fathom how LotA goes bad unless people legit AFK or something.

Is this a Crystal problem? That's the only data center I've never played on and I've heard generally bad things.
My DC is crystal and I've never had this problem. The Crystal Tower dungeons are almost always free experience for alts with no brainwork involved except for maybe doing one thing on a couple of bosses. I'm not saying I don't believe these stories but I guess I'm really lucky.
 
Just wait until the Wiping City of Mhach and Orobonne MonasteREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE become required for MSQ as well. You don't think they're really going to leave the 13th and the IVth Legion plot hooks hanging once 7.0 rolls around, do you?
The Wiping City of Mhach has lost a lot of its teeth as of ShB imo. The last three times I did it; the PUG party cheesed through it no problem. Even Ozma.

As for the 70s alliance raids, they're already semi mandatory as of Bozja, so this is just making its inclusion official.
 
Stormblood already nearly lost me 4 years ago for how much it just went on about "Empire bad" for about 40 hours straight.
Funny you mention that, but Heavensward almost made me requit the game after I just replayed all of it for the opposite reason: surface level grey morality. The number of times perfectly good arguments were shut down with "BUT FRENCH CATHOLICS RAN A TRAIN ON MY SISTER MILLENIA AGO!" made my blood boil. Had other problems too, like having so little involvement in the plot you dont interact with the final boss until 10 mins before you kill him or the Uldah storyline abortion, but the above seems to be the crux of most of it.
Aymeric: Hraesvlgr, your brother Nidhogg mounted your daughter and forceably penetrated her from behind in front of like 20 people in broad daylight, then said and I quote "I'll do it again nigga~!" Will you help us fight him?

Hraesvlgr: BUT MY DEAD SISTER THOUGH! BE GRATEFUL I KILLED MY GIRLFRIEND!

Aymeric: Mine apologies noble creature! Such a majestic culture...
All things considered I'm looking forward to my nice simple jaunt through dumb indiana jones world trekking in SB; fighting ninja turtles and mongolians so I can punch Darth Wader for breaking a sword off in my ass.
 
Funny you mention that, but Heavensward almost made me requit the game after I just replayed all of it for the opposite reason: surface level grey morality.
Hraesvlger is considered by the story in my two views of it as negatively complacent and is ultimately an accomplice to his brother's acts. His dad has to effectively come in and go "You got to get out of your room and stop listening to emo music, a new world awaits now." to get him to stop sulking and fucking do something.

While people like Aymeric are too sympathetic to really argue with him, Aymeric has shown times to be not very good at actually arguing when you hit the right emotional notes with him (his father especially). Alphinaud, Estinien, Ysayle, and Midgardsormr make varying attempts to show him that lingering on this is a mistake and he is in a way no better than Nidhogg especially considering the aid he provides via keeping Nidhogg alive. Nidhogg causes torment to Ishgard for the sake of sick gratification against people, who at this point have done nothing to him that he himself didn't instigate. Hrasvlger on the other hand is paralyzed by indecision due to a mixture of guilt and depression, so he feigns neutrality because he lacks the will to make a decision. He is a fence sitter on a grand scale.

Nidhogg is considered wrong by basically everyone who's sane. What everyone hates about the government isn't what they did a trillion years ago per say, we all mostly all generally agree that being punished for this shit that happened before literally anyone alive today was born is wrong. Why people hate the Catholics for is that the only reason it continues is for the sake of vengeance and to maintain a status quo that the pope benefits from. Thordan lacks the will to bring about a new era despite knowing the war he subjects his people to is wrong, so he's finds a work around to his hangs up with complete arrogant reckless abandon by becoming the primal King Thordan so he can just smite the dragons away.

I've only ever seen King Behemoth frequently go sideways in Labyrinth runs, and that's just because nobody wants to be the one holding the Colossus and everyone forgets that the Colossus can destroy meteors. Syrcus Tower and World of Darkness are usually braindead affairs in my experience. Could very well be a Crystal thing, or Fcret is just incredibly unlucky with queues.
WoD is a coin flip for, either we wipe to the 1st boss somehow (doom killed people, tanks pointing the eye ball at half the raid, or some other dumb shit) or it dies in 20 minutes. I'm on Primal and I never run into any problems in LotA or Syrcus.

I don't think anyone even really pulls the Colossus in my runs, I always see it just cleave me randomly and it usually doesn't kill anyone. I just kind of skate on by and kill Behemoth before the second meteor does anything usually.
 
Hraesvlger is considered by the story in my two views of it as negatively complacent and is ultimately an accomplice to his brother's acts. His dad has to effectively come in and go "You got to get out of your room and stop listening to emo music, a new world awaits now." to get him to stop sulking and fucking do something.

While people like Aymeric are too sympathetic to really argue with him, Aymeric has shown times to be not very good at actually arguing when you hit the right emotional notes with him (his father especially). Alphinaud, Estinien, Ysayle, and Midgardsormr make varying attempts to show him that lingering on this is a mistake and he is in a way no better than Nidhogg especially considering the aid he provides via keeping Nidhogg alive. Nidhogg causes torment to Ishgard for the sake of sick gratification against people, who at this point have done nothing to him that he himself didn't instigate. Hrasvlger on the other hand is paralyzed by indecision due to a mixture of guilt and depression, so he feigns neutrality because he lacks the will to make a decision. He is a fence sitter on a grand scale.

Nidhogg is considered wrong by basically everyone who's sane. What everyone hates about the government isn't what they did a trillion years ago per say, we all mostly all generally agree that being punished for this shit that happened before literally anyone alive today was born is wrong. Why people hate the Catholics for is that the only reason it continues is for the sake of vengeance and to maintain a status quo that the pope benefits from. Thordan lacks the will to bring about a new era despite knowing the war he subjects his people to is wrong, so he's finds a work around to his hangs up with complete arrogant reckless abandon by becoming the primal King Thordan so he can just smite the dragons away.
Hraesvelgr is 100% both an accomplice (he says so himself) and a complacent turd who's done nothing but sit around. Really in a way his father not flying over and demanding the war end strikes me as something that isn't entirely sensible but dragons in every piece of fantasy media are imperious, self-obsessed pricks. It usually takes an ass-beating and an act of a god to get them to get off the proverbial couch. Thankfully both Hraesvelgr and Midgardsormr admit to this in the story, they're aware they're being shitty.

I'm still convinced the Knights of the Round and Battle Pope were going to have more to them and there was a lot of lore in the books and even in game that was clearly left on the cutting room floor. Really I'd rather the Pope have played his hand later on and THEN try to become Mega Primal Popius so we'd get more to it.

The Extreme version of the Knights of the Round battle is super rad though so that's always nice. I almost wish they made the normal battle a bit harder purely to make it feel more fitting instead of the unmitigated ass-stomping it was then and now.

In the end I still enjoy HW a lot but I'll never see Aymeric as great as others do. Mostly because I don't find his build as attractive, I think that plays pretty heavily in it. There's a whole lot of people who furiously simp for Aymeric because of his looks and that's about it. He got stabbed through armor by a kitchen knife!
 
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