Female paedophile compendium & discussion on society and their enablers

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

I like how this thread represents the same socially affective deflection campaign that plays out every time someone starts noticing things in the data or law enforcement stats get published. Women perps of child sex crimes are under-reported, full stop. Whether it's 90/10 or or 80/20 or whatever, it's more than it is now. Male victims of sex abuse, period, are not given support or help or sympathy or "empathy." When the perp is a woman, it's worse. Even if the woman was convicted of rape against a boy, even if she was his teacher, he often has to play child support upon turning 18, and the system itself will also minimize the harm done and even sarcastically imply the kid wanted it. The same system that convicted the female child rapist.

But let's actually clear the air with some real data. If we know the best handle we have on reality, then the people who care to engage with reality have their bearings:

Who actually gets raped, when?
Felson & Cundiff (2014), Archives of Sexual Behavior. Nearly 300,000 sexual assaults from NIBRS (2000-2007).
The findings: modal victim age was 15 regardless of offender age, offender gender, or victim gender.
15-year-old males are more likely to be sexually assaulted than 40-year-old females.
15-year-old females are about 9x more likely to be raped than 35-year-old females.
By the 50s, rates are negligible.

It is clear: it's teenagers and kids. Period.

What are the actual attitudes to male victims of female adult sex perpetration?
Apathy.

Let's start with published academic positions:
Cavazos-Rehg et al. (2009), published in Contraception. Analyzed 1999-2007 YRBS data (CDC's Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance System), 72,000+ students, nationally representative sample. Kaplan-Meier survival analysis.

Key findings: 15% of African-American males had experienced "sexual debut" by their 12th birthday, compared to under 10% for every other group. PubMed Central By age 14, 42% of African-American males had experienced sexual debut, versus 20% or less for all other groups. PubMed Central

And here's the sentence. The researchers write: because far fewer female adolescents have had sexual debut at a very early age, they speculate that these young African-American males were either exaggerating reports of sexual debut or having their first sexual intercourse with older females. PubMed Central

Read that again. The researchers' two hypotheses for 11-year-old boys reporting sex are: (a) they're lying, or (b) adult women are having sex with them. And the term for this is "sexual debut." Not rape. Not statutory rape. Not child sexual abuse. "Sexual debut."

The paper then immediately pivots to: it is important to permit freedom of sexual expression to those adolescents who are mature, intelligent and reasonable enough to give consent for sexual activity. PubMed Central

OK. Who published this? Patricia A Cavazos-Rehg a,*, Melissa J Krauss b, Edward L Spitznagel c, Mario Schootman d, Kathleen K Bucholz a, Jeffrey F Peipert e, Vetta Sanders-Thompson f, Linda B Cottler a, Laura Jean Bierut a. [Lazily copied from the NIH article on pubmed.] So we have 6 women here. 3 men. And they all chose to editorialize this way. And the first two names by order are Patricia and Melissa. Huh.

Let's continue with what isn't studied:
Researchers have called attention to how little is known about associations between age gaps and negative outcomes for male adolescents. ScienceDirect (Older opposite-sex romantic partners, sexual risk, and victimization in adolescence)
Historically, statutory rape laws deemed that only female adolescents could be victims given the disproportionate burden of pregnancy placed on females. ScienceDirect (Older opposite-sex romantic partners, sexual risk, and victimization in adolescence)

The 2019 Middle School YRBS data (66,366 adolescents aged 10-14) found Black/African American adolescents were 4.5 times more likely than White adolescents to report having early sexual intercourse MDPI(Prevalence of Early Sexual Debut among Young Adolescents in Ten States of the United States)
Males were over three times more likely than females to report multiple sex partners at ages 11 and 14. MDPI (Prevalence of Early Sexual Debut among Young Adolescents in Ten States of the United States)

Gosh. Also, funny how this quite just stays in my fucking head:

"...it is important to permit freedom of sexual expression to those adolescents who are mature, intelligent and reasonable enough to give consent for sexual activity..."

What happens when the system identifies a male child victim of an adult female perpetrator?
They're ordered to pay child support

Hermesmann v. Seyer (Kansas, 1993): A 16-year-old babysitter began a sexual relationship with a 12-year-old boy in her care. She became pregnant when he was 13. Wikipedia Criminal charges were brought against the woman. The Kansas Supreme Court held that, because being under 16 he had been legally unable to consent to sex, a crime had been committed under statutory rape law, but that Seyer had actually given consent under civil law. Wikipedia

County of San Luis Obispo v. Nathaniel J.: A 15-year-old male victim and a 34-year-old female perpetrator. The perpetrator was prosecuted and convicted of unlawful sex with a minor. The court found the boy was "not an innocent victim" and ordered child support once he reached majority. Wikipedia

The deputy attorney general in that case said of the 15-year-old boy: "I guess he thought he was a man then. Now, he prefers to be considered a child." Psychology Today
Nick Olivas (Arizona, 2014): A 14-year-old boy was raped by a 20-year-old woman. He didn't know he had a daughter until six years later, when the state came after him for back child support. ABA Journal Arizona seized money from his bank account and garnished his wages.

As the Barry University law review article puts it: Courts across the country have decided that minor males are consenting to sex and therefore must pay, despite the fact that most states now have gender-neutral statutory rape laws based on the premise that minors are incapable of consent. Barry

Huh. Looks like it's clear. Nobody cares about male child victims. If certain women so much as hear that this is being discussed they barge in with MEN DO IT MORE. Okay..? That doesn't change that nobody cares about male victims.

What about under-reporting of female perpetrators?
Oh yeah.
FORGE study - Police reports: 2.2% female perpetrators. Victimization surveys: 11.6%. 5x underreporting gap. 86% of victims of female predators not believed. 9% female perpetrator confirmation rate vs 22% male, same evidence standard. https://forge-forward.org/wp-conten...d-male-victims-why-they-are-invisible_mjw.pdf

AAUW "Hostile Hallways" (1993 survey) - 85% of girls, 76% of boys sexually harassed at school. Published coverage focused on girls. The 76% boys figure was in the data but not reported in media coverage or AAUW's own public framing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment_in_education_in_the_United_States (aggregates all AAUW survey data with citations)Original 1993 survey: search "Hostile Hallways AAUW 1993" on Gale Academic OneFile

Augarde & Rydon-Grange (2022) - 5-20% of all CSA committed by females. 14-17% of male CSA victims abused by females. Police data vs victimization survey gap confirmed across multiple countries. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178921001415

Cambodia UNICEF/NIS (2015) - 5.6% boys, 5.4% girls experienced sexual abuse. First Step Cambodia: 70% of 432 victims were male. India/New Delhi: 60% of boys experienced sexual abuse. https://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/cases-sexual-abuse-boys-go-underreported

Wow. Shit sucks. Good thing we have someone here to run interference and make it about them.

 

[Lurker]

"it's the system that doesn't take female-on-male sexual assault seriously!"

okay, tell the men who came up with that system that it's shitty and should be changed.

no one is arguing that it doesn't happen or that it's not serious. well, okay, maybe some argue that, but i don't.

i'm just putting it out there that men commit 90%+ of sexual crimes, which really rustles peoples' jimmies for some reason.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Firstly, thank you for actually adding to this discussion. Secondly, still nobody knows what the fuck your position actually is because you never articulated it clearly. Thirdly, I do not think you understand what I was saying. If schools were 100% women with no men, they should only be up to 20% of female offenders. Never up to 26%. That is still overrepresentation if in the general population they are about 10% of cases. 70% would not make up to 26%. They are not underrepresented in school settings. You keep arguing as if I'm saying females are a majority of predators.

Incorrect. And I'll just say that you're misusing the concept of over/underrepresentation. Of COURSE rates in a disproportionately one-sided occupation will skew higher for that population compared to their rates in the general 50-50 population - and the same in the other direction.

If the country is 50-50 male/female and women commit 10% of violations, then you reduce the male percentage in a subpopulation, mathematically women will show up as a greater proportion of violators than the 10% against the general population. What is interesting is that it isn't MORE than the 13-15% that is the general ballpark consensus in education (which includes nonreported cases).

Oversimplified math, courtesy of AI, which has more patience to explain this step-by-step than I do: :

Step 1: Start with the original population

• Group A = 50% of the population, but commits 90% of the crime
• Group B = 50% of the population, but commits 10% of the crime

Because the two groups are equal in size, we can infer the relative offending rate of each group.

Imagine a population of 100 people

• 50 are Group A
• 50 are Group B

Now imagine there are 100 total crimes.

• Group A commits 90 crimes
• Group B commits 10 crimes

So the per-person crime rate is:

Group A rate

90 \div 50 = 1.8

Group B rate
10 \div 50 = 0.2

So relative to population size:

• Group A has a crime rate of 1.8
• Group B has a crime rate of 0.2

This means:

1.8 \div 0.2 = 9
So Group A’s rate is 9× Group B’s rate.

Step 2: Apply those rates to the new sub-population

The sub-population is:

• 30% Group A
• 70% Group B

Assume again a population of 100 people.

So:

• 30 people are Group A
• 70 people are Group B

Apply the same relative offending rates:

Expected crimes from Group A
30 \times 1.8 = 54

Expected crimes from Group B
70 \times 0.2 = 14

Total expected crimes:

54 + 14 = 68

Step 3: Convert to percentages of crime

Group A share
54 \div 68 \approx 0.7941
≈ 79.4%

Group B share
14 \div 68 \approx 0.2059
≈ 20.6%

Final Answer
In a sub-population that is:

• 30% Group A
• 70% Group B

the expected crime distribution would be approximately:

• Group A: 79.4% of the crime
• Group B: 20.6% of the crime

TL; DR: 20% would be expected based on general population occurrence. 13-15% is under-representation, not overrepresentation.

Do you think female predators are more unreported than male predators? I think it's probably almost never reported when it's a male victim. And yes I already know male victims are the minority. You see, in this thread we are talking about the minority of cases.

Per the Shakeshaft and later cited reports, estimates of reporting (again, of all sexual misconduct, not just crimes) are extremely low overall - like 4-6%. If that is true (and tbh may be quite dated) with such low overall rates, it would be difficult to discern a meaningful difference between girl and boy reporting.

That said, it is generally agreed that boys are less likely to report to authority figures. Per the Shakeshaft review, boys are more likely to tell friends, but not authority figures. But overall, children seldom tell, for a variety of reasons. Which is why they are targets.

And I already quoted and bolded a statement from the Shakeshaft review about boys reporting, but I'll feed it to you again:

Analysts speculate that female abusers might be underreported if the target is male, because males have been socialized to believe they should be flattered or appreciative of sexual interest from a female. On the other hand, it is hypothesized that males might also underreport sexual abuse by another male, because of the social stigma of same-sex sex. The issue of male underreporting has more relevance to the number of males that are sexually abused than to the sex of the abuser.

No I didn't read the Shakeshaft study. I onky mentioned it bc it was mentioned in the Griffith paper and I had never heard that before. I didn't cite it here for that reason. I mentioned it was mentioned in the paper.

You should always review cited sources if possible, especially if you're relying on them.

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

"it's the system that doesn't take female-on-male sexual assault seriously!"

Exhibit a) Lurker
Exhibit b) Dorothy
Exhibit c) Society, not just the system

okay, tell the men who came up with that system that it's shitty and should be changed.

Women have for over 60s years. This isn't the 1960s anymore. Read newer books.

no one is arguing that it doesn't happen or that it's not serious. well, okay, maybe some argue that, but i don't.

No, you're deflecting and minimizing it and showing no regard. You're barging into a thread that was never about you and making it about you.

i'm just putting it out there that men commit 90%+ of sexual crimes, which really rustles peoples' jimmies for some reason.

FORGE study - Police reports: 2.2% female perpetrators. Victimization surveys: 11.6%. 5x underreporting gap. 86% of victims of female predators not believed. 9% female perpetrator confirmation rate vs 22% male, same evidence standard. https://forge-forward.org/wp-conten...d-male-victims-why-they-are-invisible_mjw.pdf

Augarde & Rydon-Grange (2022) - 5-20% of all CSA committed by females. 14-17% of male CSA victims abused by females. Police data vs victimization survey gap confirmed across multiple countries. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178921001415

 

[Markorian]

no one is arguing that it doesn't happen or that it's not serious.

"No one is doing this, and if they are, it's ok, and if it's not, you're still overreacting"
No one is "le triggered" by your "epic trololololol" derailment. They're mad, because they see the friend of a banned pedophile justifying and minimizing pedophilia. It's not that complicated, you retarded sociopath.

 

[Lurker]

They're mad, because they see the friend of a banned pedophile justifying and minimizing pedophilia. It's not that complicated, you retarded sociopath.

literally what are you talking about

and if statistics upset you, sucks to be you, i guess.

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

literally what are you talking about

if statistics upset you, sucks to be you, i guess.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Because it comes off as running interference and trying to downplay the experience of the victims.

Well, not sure how many times I have to repeat that it is not. But I'll add that downplaying the experience of victims of sex crimes is an old and familiar saw, one that gets repeated on this forum daily.

Its especially odious after we've already had someone try and argue that boys don't actually suffer an ill affects from being molested.

There is some literature to suggest that boys - as a whole - are impacted "less," but tbh those studies are typically based around self-reporting, and it is not infrequent that people do not fully realize the impact on them of having been violated or exploited.

Anecdotally, I've known two men (let's put them in their 40s when I knew them - one early and one late) who shared that their first penetrative sexual experiences were around 11 or 12 - one with a babysitter about 17 years old, and the other with a full-grown woman, probably 30s (and that one was the first of several in preteen/early teen years). Both claimed it was great, and were perplexed when I didn't clap and laugh, and when I said that that was wrong and shouldn't have happened to them (weirdly, apparently no one had said that to them before). They believed or claimed, "lol, I got it good and started young," and I think that it had become in their minds a stamp of approval of their attractiveness and sexual prowess.

Observationally, both of these men were extremely hypersexual - the most boldly and brashly sexual people I've known. Connection? In their minds, the early sexual experiences with older women (or girl/almost woman in the first case) affirmed - at least retroactively - their sexuality; they had not considered that perhaps those early and wrong/ exploitative experiences had caused their over-focus on sex. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought it was interesting that the two most oversexed men I've ever met both had very early, barely adolescent - and imo exploitative and completely wrong - experiences with significantly older people.

...I didn't push the point - not everyone is traumatized by the same things - but it didn't take long for my careful skepticism of the "greatness" of those experiences to have them a little puzzled and reflective. So in my personal opinion, even beyond the general "omfg that is so wrong and gross and you poor kid" thoughts, I do think that both of them were impacted by it, and though maybe not in devastating ways, not in good ways. They also both were (very) different flavors of thrillseekers, but that's a chicken & egg question.

Ymmv.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

At this point you retards are just biting on the baited hook and giving Null confirmation bias like holy shit if they're more overt you'd probably just say "I'm right see you're proving it". Absolute faggots.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

At this point you retards are just biting on the baited hook and giving Null confirmation bias like holy shit if they're more overt you'd probably just say "I'm right see you're proving it". Absolute faggots.

Edit: wrong thread.

Well yeah anytime something major happens it’s two lanes: “actual content” vs. “die dotard drumpffff”

Have you seen TES and the DJT thread in lolcows? If it weren’t for the presence of many old school members, as well as at least two mods, both of those would be nuked from orbit

It is messy, painful and horrible, but the most merciful way to end such an internal community strife is to destroy these threads. Then the hardcore clingers have nowhere to go but Reddit. Then? The site can have some form of internal unity once more.

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

WTF does any of this have to do with Donald Trump?

 

[powdered toast]

TL; DR: 20% would be expected based on general population occurrence. 13-15% is under-representation, not overrepresentation

You're arguing past me again lol. 20% would not be expected unless you use 15% for both the general population and school percentages, or 10% for both etc. But you're right. I did not account for their overrepresentation as school employees vs males. This is much more telling than you seem to think. Predators are always overrepresented in schools because of victim access. It does not make sense at all that they would be underrepresented in schools. Why do you think this is? This could mean anything from significant underreporting to predatory behavior not amounting to anything more severe than a reprimand for general misconduct/unprofessionalism upon investigation.

And as we saw in Michigan schools, sexual misconduct is largely ignored anyway where the teacher just gets shuffled around without consequences and gets to keep their job half the time, so I assume there is pretty severe underreporting for both males and females, and speculate if it is proportional.

You should always review cited sources if possible, especially if you're relying on them.

I did not cite it nor did I rely on its information. I mentioned that it was mentioned in another paper. If you noticed my high estimate was only 26%. When do you think I relied on this information beyond speculation?

Another thing that is interesting about this is that male predators in educational settings will usually have many victims, but most female predators will have a single victim each. Also, the victims of females are only 50-50 male/female when they're 15 and younger, and they're majority males when they're older.

Spoiler: math

Edit to add: all you had to to do was simple division for the proportion to account for their percentage of school employees, divide their predator percentage by their proportion of employees. Why did you do an entire page of math? You didn't have to do all of that. I get that I forgot to account for their overrepresentation as school employees but that doesn't mean I don't know how to divide lol.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

Well yeah anytime something major happens it’s two lanes: “actual content” vs. “die dotard drumpffff”

Have you seen TES and the DJT thread in lolcows? If it weren’t for the presence of many old school members, as well as at least two mods, both of those would be nuked from orbit

It is messy, painful and horrible, but the most merciful way to end such an internal community strife is to destroy these threads. Then the hardcore clingers have nowhere to go but Reddit. Then? The site can have some form of internal unity once more.

If you hadn't brought your politisperging to this I wouldn't have to call you a retard because that last part is agreeable.

You're a retard, though.

 

[Super Dilator Duel 3D]

I’d like to try and get this thread back on track, so I’ll restate some thoughts I had on the subject. It’s mostly sperging.

I think the notion that women are responsible for more sexual crimes against children than men are is cope from men who seemingly struggle to admit that their “side” (as fucking gay as it is to call the sexes “sides” like it’s a political debate, but I digress) has any problems of their own. However, I would be entirely unsurprised to see that the amount of young boys who report being raped by older women is much higher than what we actually know. There are multiple reasons for this discrepancy existing and while I’d argue the most prevalent are that the victims aren’t taken seriously, there’s also this strange gaslighting that takes place when men talk about being raped by women as young boys. There was a post earlier that actually highlighted this, mentioning that the most hypersexual men this poster knew were molested by a woman even though they treated the topic almost as a point of pride in their sexual abilities and attractiveness than as a point of trauma. Just because a man doesn’t openly acknowledge that they were raped as a kid doesn’t mean the trauma isn’t still there, inflicting real effects on their psyche.

It makes me wonder if this is deliberate, that the women responsible for victimizing young boys tell them “look how much better you are than the other boys, you got to have sex with an older woman!” as a way of convincing them that the abuse isn’t abuse, it’s actually normal and you only never hear about it because there are so few boys who are “good enough” to fuck these older women. I’m just speculating, admittedly. While the methods men and women use to hurt vulnerable children differ wildly, they still have the same root; a desire to control and hurt someone who is unable to exercise that same level of agency. I will never stop being heartbroken for these children.

 

[Tablet County]

i'm just putting it out there that men commit 90%+ of sexual crimes,

Fair enough. Why are you putting it out there?

Reminder that when women got the right to vote in 1920, age of consent was raised across the US, not lowered.

Reminder that this thread has nothing to do with women being allowed to vote and this fact has nothing to do with anything. Unless you're positing that there's some connection between women being allowed to vote and child molestation by women? I assume you aren't because you're pro-women and even if you weren't that'd be retarded.

Like, how hard is it to understand? This thread isn't about how women are more prolific predators than men, and I see no reason to interpret it that way unless you're insecure and interpret an attack against any woman as an attack against all women. At worst you could accuse OP and the posters ITT of claiming that female molestation of males goes underreported, which is a far cry from accusing women of being lustful harpies with a thirst for the youth. The letter of this thread is simply that female predators exist and have names and faces. The spirit of this thread, as shown in the earlier protothread, is that there's a bizarre apathy surrounding boys being molested by adult women, with the blame occasionally being shifted to the teenage boy's lustful nature, but more often than not being dismissed by sex weirdos who wish they could have banged their hot milf teacher. And that's before we get into that according to statistics (unless I read them wrong), female molestors seem to trend much younger than puberty.

OP, as I see it, misinterpreted seeing faggots on youtube and KF and possibly other websites being weird and linked it to a greater social issue. His intent, seemingly, is to rebut retarded people who downplay the issue by showing that female predators do exist and they do cause harm, and this apparent romanticization of boys blooming into full-grown men through the guiding hand of an experienced woman is bullshit and gay.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

If you hadn't brought your politisperging to this I wouldn't have to call you a retard because that last part is agreeable.

You're a retard, though.

To be fair I thought this was the Iran thread but I can’t take it back now

 

[draggs]

accusing women of being lustful harpies with a thirst for the youth

I accuse women of being lustful harpies with a thirst for the youth

My evidence: nice

 

[Billy Hargrove]

I accuse women of being lustful harpies with a thirst for the youth

My evidence: nice

Isn’t this what the thread is allegedly complaining about? Except look it’s dudes doing it like usual lol

 

[UnsufficentBoobage]

It is perma-online simps doing it, they are in the comments to anything anywhere, and not indicative of anything, seeng how "letting cunts get away with anything after a slap on the wrist" is a society-wide problem mostly unrelated to hollering coomers.

Preferential treatment is given to us on the grounds we give birth and raise nice, sociable kids, and not, you know, because we are so cute and pure.

 

[The Ugly One]

let's have a thread about female pedophiles because people seem to think that because it's less frequent than male sex criminality, it's not actually bad, and if a woman rapes a boy, nobody should talk about it because only male sex crimes should ever be acknowledged

oh look

people are arguing that because female pedophilia is less frequent than male sex criminality, it's not actually bad, and if a woman rapes a boy, nobody should talk about it because only male sex crimes should ever be acknowledged

Both man hate thread and women hate thread regulars coming to shit it up are fucking retarded.