Fat acceptance is too fucking much

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

They genuinely think that packaged frozen junk food and Whoppers are somehow more affordable than chicken thighs, beans, rice, frozen vegetables, etc.

They also like to pretend that cooking takes a huge amount of time and effort, when in reality it's usually just half an hour or less if you're making meals for one. The stereotype that fat people are lazy is kinda true, but it's more that they're extremely reluctant to try new things and disrupt their routine (everyone is, but fat people more so than the average person). If they actually learned to cook basic meals, they'd be shocked at how easy it is and how little time it takes.

These self-defeating beliefs are part of a larger mental pattern called learned helplessness. When they try and fail to lose weight a few times, they conclude that it's impossible due to circumstances beyond their control, and that society and their bodies are conspiring to make them fat. It's the toxic food supply, or it's the fat genes they got from their fat parents (not the habits they learned from those same parents), or it's their work schedule or their kids or some rare disease.

Ozempic is popular because it removes the effort required to lose weight, but the problem is that the effort itself is the only way to attain permanent weight loss. Otherwise you'll be on the pill forever, and God knows what that's doing to your body. We'll know in about ten years or so what the long-term effects of GLP-1 agonists on non-diabetics are, and I imagine they aren't nice.

 

[pechepeche]

Oh dear, I've been baking a lot lately, and flour is a main ingredient. Is there any type of flour that does trigger feeling satisified?

O no, I meant white flour and corn syrup moreso in treats and bad diets that rely on it, not for cooking directly. Whole wheat based foods are usually more filling for these kinds of meals and snacks.

I wouldn’t really know how to incorporate whole wheat flour into cooking. I’ve never tried it when making cakes or pastries, and like someone else already mentioned, it can change the recipe's balance, making the mix denser and sometimes requiring a bit more liquid (like milk) or additional eggs to thin it.​

 

[souschef]

I don't mind a little chubby on someone, provided they aren't a walking giant blob of biomass. You're automatically ugly when you're fat, especially as a guy, times that more if you have body hair. It just makes you feel like a hungry hippo and look like a sexual predator in the works.

The problem is not even the ugliness but the fact that these people want to live that lifestyle, and make other people pay for it. When you're obese you're vulnerable to a shitload of health problems, and they want the public health system to take care of it. So there goes the hambeast occupying health facilities and burning resources with their diabeetus when this should be directed to actual sick people that didn't chose to be sick

Not to mention other entitlements they have. I've seen some whale advocating that planes should modify seats so they're "plus sized friendly" (ie: rebuild everything so the 300kg imbecile can fit in, to the detriment of all other passengers)

They also like to pretend that cooking takes a huge amount of time and effort, when in reality it's usually just half an hour or less if you're making meals for one. The stereotype that fat people are lazy is kinda true, but it's more that they're extremely reluctant to try new things and disrupt their routine (everyone is, but fat people more so than the average person). If they actually learned to cook basic meals, they'd be shocked at how easy it is and how little time it takes.

I also tell people that they should just homecook and prep ahead instead of ordering delivery. I've got a few "go fuck yourself" over the suggestion (including in the farms ) but still i insist on suggesting it. You can absolutely prep ahead for the week. It'll take you one hour a week that you can spare on your weekends to partition veggies and marinate some protein, so everyday you can cook something fresh in half an hour as you said. I can forgive people that work brutal hours, but the average joe can do this without any issues

 

[NoStepOnSnake]

These people should go play VR fantasy fighting games. I recently got to enjoy none-consensual unconsciousness because I was being a nigger and didn't drink Gatorade or at least electrolytes-esqe drink. I lost 3 pounds and felt euphoria from not dying.

BTW drink fucking Gatorade if you're gonna be a retard and play hardcore fitness games for 2 hours.

 

[Gaystapo]

These people should go play VR fantasy fighting games. I recently got to enjoy none-consensual unconsciousness because I was being a nigger and didn't drink Gatorade or at least electrolytes-esqe drink. I lost 3 pounds and felt euphoria from not dying.

BTW drink fucking Gatorade if you're gonna be a retard and play hardcore fitness games for 2 hours.

I'm not fat (thank God), but what are the names of said games? These sound fun.

 

[31 Black]

O no, I meant white flour and corn syrup moreso in treats and bad diets that rely on it, not for cooking directly. Whole wheat based foods are usually more filling for these kinds of meals and snacks.

I wouldn’t really know how to incorporate whole wheat flour into cooking. I’ve never tried it when making cakes or pastries, and like someone else already mentioned, it can change the recipe's balance, making the mix denser and sometimes requiring a bit more liquid (like milk) or additional eggs to thin it.​

I've been baking desserts mostly, and it calls for an ungodly amount of flour. I'm willing to try whole wheat flour to see if it fucks up the taste, and I'll definitely try @souschef's recommendation of adding oats to my cookies.

As for cooking, I seldom use flour, and when I do, it's only the smallest amount only for binding. I'll sub with cornstarch if I know someone is gluten free.

 

[NoStepOnSnake]

I'm not fat (thank God), but what are the names of said games? These sound fun.

Dungeons of Eternity made me collapse and wake up with my friend still on chat asking me to get up while I folded like a corpse.

Blade and Sorcery is good for long-term not heat exhaustion.

Gorn 1 and 2 are fun to kill muscle men.

These two ain't workout games but Cosmodread made me shit my pants looking at VR PS2 models. And Bonelab is the best VR game for shooting shit for fun.

 

[Dean Pentel]

As a woman, your only attraction is guys named Josh that run racist, Nazi websites that make ugly retards feel badly about themselves.

FTFY

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

I also tell people that they should just homecook and prep ahead instead of ordering delivery. I've got a few "go fuck yourself" over the suggestion (including in the farms ) but still i insist on suggesting it. You can absolutely prep ahead for the week. It'll take you one hour a week that you can spare on your weekends to partition veggies and marinate some protein, so everyday you can cook something fresh in half an hour as you said. I can forgive people that work brutal hours, but the average joe can do this without any issues

Nothing makes people madder than when you tell them their insurmountable problem has an extremely easy and simple solution, and they know in their heart of hearts you're right. I know the feeling, because sometimes it makes me mad how simple it is to solve things, and how the most common advice is absolutely correct most of the time. It makes you feel a bit dumb for not doing it. It makes you realize you're the one making your own life hard for no reason other than stubbornness.

 

[TheTitKoker]

Besides fatties having grease on their skull that could make them forget about what they ate that morning, there’s also another reason for this. Highly processed food is never meant to fill you up. Very popular ingredients in processed foods, such as corn syrup or white flour, often have a hard time triggering the feeling of being satisfied within the brain. This quickly spirals into people overeating in larger quantities and adjusting their normal capacity after extended periods of eating trash. This is why people trying to lose weight through harsh diets rarely stick to them: a salad will not fill them up if they are used to only feeling satiated after eating five burgers.​

And of course, sugar. And the center of literally ALL fast food - ice cold, sugary drinks that disturb your digestion and flush stomach acids causing lots of that garbage to just pass on through without getting fully absorbed. Hell, same burger without white bread buns would already be better (and the option to sub lettuce for buns back in the day kinda blew my mind at Hardees). And seasonings are key, but not pre-made creamy sauces that don't really help either if consumed out of a trough.

 

[Jean ValJean]

So I read this whole thread and it's full of the same old lame excuses: "The American Diet is full of poison" and "It's too expensive to buy healthy food" and "Most people are so busy working nine jobs that they just don't have time to cook" etc. and it's all bullshit.

Yes, the American Diet is full of a lot of shitty ultra-processed foods with little to no nutritional value and too much refined sugar, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to buy everything that's on the shelves. Any grocery store has a produce aisle, a meat/poultry/fish section, a frozen vegetable section, and a dairy section. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy the processed crap on the shelves.

Have you been to McDonald's or KFC or Taco Bell lately? For what you pay for a "meal" there, you could go to Kroger's or someplace, pick up a rotisserie chicken, a salad, and some rice or potatoes. It would take you the same amount of time that it takes you to sit in line at the drive thru at the fast food place.

And not knowing how to cook, or how to cook healthy is no excuse in this day and age. I don't care if you're "poor," everybody has a smart phone and has access to literally thousands of healthy recipes, how to prepare [meal] videos, and loads of information on which foods are healthy, which ones are garbage, and how many calories they have, what is a serving, etc.

I work at a gym and I've trained a lot of people and taught a lot of classes and there are two types of people; the type who really want to start an exercise/weight loss program, and those who go through the motions and then whine about how they tried it and it didn't work.

The overwhelming majority of Obese individuals are that way for one reason - they are too lazy to change their lifestyle.

 

[Shroom King]

Since people had to post gross fatties, please enjoy this picture of a tricked-out revolver to counteract the nausea.

 

[Kurmudgeon]

post gross fatties

OK. Stolen directly from /fph/ on /fit/.

Spoiler: fats

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Thanks, doll !ALGP4ItMQo.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

OK. Stolen directly from /fph/ on /fit/.

Spoiler: fats

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Thanks, doll !ALGP4ItMQo.

>I'm going to keep showing up and radiating confidence and love
"Confidence and love" is a funny way of spelling BO and desperation.

 

[Otterly]

Lol! Why this bitch got utters? Can a scientist please explain to me how this happens?

There’s been a lot of discussion on the fat acceptance movement thread in BP and nobody has ever gotten a truly satisfactory answer. The human body seems to have a capacity for fat storage and when that’s exceeded it kind of shrugs and sticks it wherever. there is slid a phenomenon where a sort of extra one is created over the liver.

This way, rather than doing poor imitation-like dishes that always turn out gross, we can make actual new and exciting stuff

I’d be interested in such dishes too. Maybe you could start a thread?

 

[Edgelord Vampire]

I don't care if you're "poor,"

I also hate this excuse specifically because of the stories I have heard from my Dad, whose family grew up so poor that they had to hunt and grow their own food--at least the shit they couldn't buy in tin cans. Beef, for example, was a rare treat for them.
None of them were fucking fat. Ever. Not even close.
They would cook enough food to last 5 people through an entire week, if not longer; and it's really not hard to do that (nor is it expensive).

 

[souschef]

I’d be interested in such dishes too. Maybe you could start a thread?

I might as well start a thread, but i'll have to put more stuff together. You see, my functional cuisine course is highly experimental and some of the recipes might be a little prohibitively expensive (they're targeted towards food service). So i'll need to adapt them to everyday budget, but it's doable, especially around pasta based dishes. It gets complicated with dairy substitutes and such. But yeah i'll make that someday

Ironically i plan on making a thread after i attend a workshop later this month, but it's incompatible with this thread (it's about burgers lol). I'll make both of these soon and tag you guys when i do

 

[UniNawzhi]

Ozempic is popular because it removes the effort required to lose weight, but the problem is that the effort itself is the only way to attain permanent weight loss.

I like how years ago we mocked wannabe druggies for cooking chicken with Nyquil, but misappropriating a drug meant for people with chronic diabetes is openly accepted and being approved by "doctors".

 

[Dysnomia]

These people should go play VR fantasy fighting games. I recently got to enjoy none-consensual unconsciousness because I was being a nigger and didn't drink Gatorade or at least electrolytes-esqe drink. I lost 3 pounds and felt euphoria from not dying.

BTW drink fucking Gatorade if you're gonna be a retard and play hardcore fitness games for 2 hours.

Howard Stern had an interesting solution many years ago when he was on terrestrial radio. You wall the fatties into a large nature area full of antelopes and you give them a spear. By the time they manage to chase down their food they would have burned more calories than they consumed and would lose all the weight pretty fast. At the time I found it hilarious but didn't take into account how many of them would just drop dead of a heart attack after trying to fast waddle a few yards.

 

[Token Faggot]

OK. Stolen directly from /fph/ on /fit/.

Where is fph now? The old fatpeoplehate from reddit bounced around a few places after being banned there, I havent been able to find it and would be grateful for a pointer