Fallout series

[biguglyboy]

I mean, what's the point of even conducting that experiment when doing so requires a fucking NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST to happen after which who's going to launch space shuttles? The fucking NCR?!

I might be crazy, because I've not been able to find anything to collaborate this in recent years, but I was under the impression that Vault-Tec was pretty much fleecing the government doing all these subsidized vault projects when internally they never expected the bombs to actually drop. And then that idea would mesh with the space travel experiment one since whatever shady proto-Enclave shadow government still wants to get off thier resource deprived planet.
That's all clearly gone out the window by now, even before all the retardation of the TV show, since it also relies on the idea that people were populating the vaults in preparation to the expected nukes, and not rushing in only once they started dropping during the hustle and bustle of the apocalypse, which to me is the only way that makes sense. I think they might have lightly touched before, but then along comes the obvious example of Fallout 4 that puts you right into the evacuation. Even then I still think you could argue that actually supports the vault must have been pre populated to some extent. Otherwise are we supposed to concluded that the whole of the test population are the dozen or so people that made it in during last call in the minutes of warning?

 

[demicolon]

I might be crazy, because I've not been able to find anything to collaborate this in recent years, but I was under the impression that Vault-Tec was pretty much fleecing the government doing all these subsidized vault projects when internally they never expected the bombs to actually drop. And then that idea would mesh with the space travel experiment one since whatever shady proto-Enclave shadow government still wants to get off thier resource deprived planet.

Cain said it himself below:

and I revisited it just to be sure.

Really, there was not one egghead at the Evil Overlord shareholder meeting who went "Well ackshually Mr. President, every NASA site will be directly hit with a ground burst warhead so we will have, umm, a bit of a problem making enough rocket fuel, rockets, everything necessary to make a generational ship, probably for hundreds of years after the war."

I don't like the ripoff theory much, either. Too modern and Reaganomics-like, we're talking 50s America space race where the gubmint went all-out to put Man on the Moon to rub the fact into Russkies' noses forever. Maybe there was some kind of subcontractor corner-cutting during that but I didn't hear anything like that and doubt Moon landing would be possible if it happened.

Nothing definitive in original on why some Vaults (like 8) malfunctioned; AFAIR the player is supposed to assume plain incompetence with a touch of "some ignored the air sirens until it was too late".

I wonder how much truth is to Cain's claims that he didn't really work on Fallout 2 and all the stuff fans of 1 complained about was not his fault.

 

[TheHarbinger]

I wonder how much truth is to Cain's claims that he didn't really work on Fallout 2 and all the stuff fans of 1 complained about was not his fault.

He's just the politically acceptable face for the franchise. People like Fargo or Avellone built the actual franchise. Fargo was the one who put the first Fallout game into development after he lost the Wasteland IP to EA. He even came up with the name Fallout. Avellone was the lore expert who wrote the Fallout bibles (both the public and internal ones). And Chris Taylor was the leader designer of Fallout before Feargus took over for Fallout 2.

At one point Chris Taylor was working on Fallout Online which was an MMORPG set in the wastelands. This ended up resulting in a huge drawn out lawsuit between Bethesda and Interplay. Where eventually Bethesda and Interplay had spent millions in legal fees each and Interplay finally surrendered the entire Fallout IP to Bethesda. And eventually Bethesda would make Fallout 76 which used a lot of ideas from the canceled Fallout Online.

 

[biguglyboy]

Well when I say "fleeced" I didn't envision in the crooked contractors sense like Sierra Madre. More that they're getting all these juicy government contracts even though they don't really expect the bombs to actually drop, or at least for it to no be that bad. Meanwhile they get all the funding needed to build these vaults and perform their experiments.

 

[demicolon]

Still, how do you proceed with 13's experiment of sealing the inhabitants inside forever? Or exposing 8's population to extreme radiation to simulate, I guess, a starship's rad shielding malfunction? Makes no sense even in-universe.

Whoever signed on Vault 0 certainly expected the worst.