Same thing with the online Orthobro, which is why most Orthodox priests do not recommend following Jay Dyer despite him being a big representative of online Orthodoxy. Assholes on the internet really make Christianity look bad and unfortunately do influence perception.
Nowhere was Hitler's deep Catholic faith felt more strongly than in Poland. Well, maybe Belarus, he fucking annihilated the Catholic minority there like everybody else.
Hitler was so Catholic that he killed thousands of Catholic clergy. Okay but all jokes aside, I don’t think there are a lot of people that really understand that the Nazi regime was pseudo pagan.
There were both pagan elements and an attempt to subvert Christianity into a new, racialist religion stripped of "Jewish" influences (figure that one out with respect to Jesus). The SS especially got into some weird, esoteric shit.
The Nazis bizarrely used the Talmud origin story of Jesus but switched the Roman soldier to a German instead, as if that would make him less of a Jew since Mary was still a Jew and maternal lineage is what counts. Though it was an easy way out to pander to German Christians, it was still odd, which says a lot since there are a lot of weird Jewish elements within the original Nazi regime that gets conveniently glossed over, but that's for another thread.
Hitler appointed an alcoholic who didn't really know what he was doing (Hans Kerrl) to try to Nazify the Protestant churches in Germany and so yeah things got weird.
They were more subtle about it, but for sure that was the direction they always planned on going. He was to be more of an Odin/Muhammad figure, the leader of a Spartan esque people, that were focused on war and conquest. It harkens back to when they pushed Jesus as a viking leader back then to appeal to Germanic/Nordic converts, as it was written in the Heiland. In his table talks (assuming it's not a forgery) Hitler does talk about weeding out what he thought was a decaying Christianity through a slow burn tactic as opposed to randomly enforcing it since he knew that won't work. He also praises Muhammad for being a good military leader and thinks Islam would have been a better fit for Germans due to their warrior culture, thinking Christianity tamed them. Himmler already had the Vatican like headquarters set up for the new religion in his Welwesburg castle. He was to be Paul to Hitler's Jesus.
Yeah, Hitler was a big romaphile, but he had no say on how he would be perceived after he died if Germany won. Without the "pagan stuff," there wouldn't have been a party in the first place, just look at the Thule Society. Hitler only distanced himself from them once he took power over the party. Their part in helping form the foundations of the party was done already before he took power. It really didn't matter what Hitler believed in the long run - Hitler as a savior figure and as a egregore was already set in motion.
Valid. I hate euphoric Christians more right now but the crossover between euphoric atheists and woke was strong.
Genuinely, I am looking forward to someone making a Euphoric Christian Community Watch thread in the next year or two. You know for certain it will be a lot of laughs. The educated Christians will sperg about theology and blow the LARPers out of the water, atheists will be there to laugh, we will bond again.
Good man. Spergs tend to be too shy to speeg out in public, so it makes sense. If we're lucky, more spergs try IRL and come out of their shells with positive influence from the congregation. Best end I can think of.
See, you get into Jeremy Hambly or Nick Rekeita territory and it all falls apart.
Conversely, defending the political and cultural power of the Catholic Church was also "serious business" for centuries.
Ngl I kinda forgot what thread I was in. BUT, well, internet pagan larpers are a lolcow of their own variety just like tradcaths, orthobros, or euphoric atheists so…
I agree that internet pagan lolcows exist, both of the rightwing and leftwing variety.
Yeah, there was a strain of German intellectual life going back to the late 19th century that mixed occultism/paganism, anti-Semitism, and voelkisch nationalism. Some Nazis dabbled in that milieu. But the occult part specifically didn't have much of a practical influence on Nazism. The Thule-Gesellschaft matters historically because one of their guys founded the DAP, which turned out to be a perfect vehicle for Hitler. But that doesn't mean Thule mattered much ideologically. The influence of occultism on Nazism is often overstated because it makes for a cool story. A more sober take: Stephen E. Flowers - The Occult in National Socialism (2001).
The ironic part of all that, including "Esoteric Hitlerism" is that Hitler thought the Thule Society and the occult shit in the party was fucking embarrassing and thought they were all nerds as he was more concerned with actual politics.
Reading German occultism like pic related is almost enough to make someone a globalist. Like how could an ideology have any validity when something so goddamn retarded is a foundational text?
