Disney's Cruella - because we need to sympathize with the animal abuser

[A Grey Cat]

authur fleck/2021 curella shipping when?

 

[Baby Sister]

Wow, I have a lot of thoughts about this, I will put it in a list.
1. This feels like they wanted to sell merch at Hot Topic to the Harley Quinn crowd. (I can't wait to see bad cosplays of this cruella at anime conventions this year.)
2. Reddit seems to like it because of course they do.
3. Emma Stone is too "pretty." Angelina Jolie is beautiful but has an intimidating presence as Maleficent, whereas Emma Stone looks like a kitten--nothing scary at all.
4. I hate when trailers do a slowed down version of a popular song. IT'S GAY DUDE
5. I can't wait for youtube video essays about this movie.
6. People are asking for Frollo but i'm secretly hoping Disney has collectively forgotten about Hunchback because it's the best. (The stageshow is a great "gritty" adaptation, we don't need a bad CGI movie.)
7. The Joker parallels are so heavy handed it feels like parody. Maybe they hired Emma Stone as a "Margot Robbie-type actress"
EDIT:
8. Someone posted Twisted, which reminds me of Disney's House of Mouse. I like the idea that all the Disney villians are goofy evil cartoon villians that hang out at bars together.

 

[Commander X]

I thought Cruella DeVille's origin story was that she was a British woman with a lot of money.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I thought Cruella DeVille's origin story was that she was a British woman with a lot of money.

If they were smarter about this..instead of ripping off the Joker they would rip off The Devil Wears Prada except instead of the ending being "Girl decides fuck this shit." Cruella goes down the rabbit hole of popularity.

 

[A Grey Cat]

I can't wait to see bad cosplays of this cruella at anime conventions this year.

that is assuming the conventions are going to start up again this year. even with three covid vaccines available. Remember that chris' precious Babscon got rescheduled again this time to 2022.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

brace for cringe

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gmRKv7n2If8

Oh good, now we get a Joker ripoff montage for the next ten years.

 

[Discourteous Discourse]

Well that's disappointing, but I'm a retard for having had any optimism at all.

I think I first read the announcement of the film back in 2016. I had a bit of optimism for it after seeing The Favourite, which came out in 2018. Emma Stone played Abigail, a woman who was gambled away by her father. The debt was to, "a balloon shaped German man with a thin cock". She becomes a scullery maid before helping the Queen and later manipulating her way to Maid of the Bedchamber, and eventually marrying a Colonel so that she may cement her status as a Lady. She screws over her cousin, the Duchess of Marlborough, in the process. Throughout the film you feel bad for her and want to see her succeed, and question how genuine her feelings are at some points. Although in the end, even without threats or competition left to disturb her status, she is cruel to an animal, confirming that she is indeed insecure and vile.

It's not a historically accurate film. Still, the performances are great, the sets are gorgeous, and the dresses are very lovely even though they're not vibrant. Most of them are black and white. If you don't like the previous works of Yorgos Lanthimos you probably won't like this one.





I guess in a way we already got a Cruella film starring Emma Stone. White man do bad thing, other white men take advantage of a Lady who has fallen and become chattel, she is viewed as a tool of manipulation before exercising manipulation herself, gets what she wants while remaining paranoid, and practices cruelty towards animals in more than one scene. Emma played a character who wasn't one-dimensional, she stirred up more than one emotion, and more than just negative emotions. Cruella just looks like a story about a mentally ill woman who is going to treat her illness as a quirky personality trait instead of a problem, and there will be plenty of music cues to let us know that we should feel sad for her. And they made Emma look like a freaking clown.



What a big, fat blemish on her career.

 

[The Token Ethnic]

This movie looks tailor made for those Disneyland punks with annual passes and custom battle vests. I like how they pussed out of doing the anarchy symbol with Emma's name on the poster.

 

[frozenrunner]

Why in the fuck do we need an origin story for characters like Nurse Ratched and Cruella de Vil? The point of Cruella is she's one-dimensionally evil. The point of Nurse Ratched is that she fulfills a plot function in OFOtCN. They aren't complex characters, and making them ACKSHUALLY complex won't change their functions and natures in their respective stories.

Oh, wait. It's because they're women, isn't it?

 

[A Grey Cat]

This movie looks tailor made for those Disneyland punks with annual passes and custom battle vests. I also like how they pussed out of doing the anarchy symbol with Emma's name on the poster.
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still a better crowd than gay day...and that's including before that became an offical thing in the disney parks

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I thought Cruella DeVille's origin story was that she was a British woman with a lot of money.

That's not empowering enough, I guess.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

They still do

Disney's last all-around good movie was Wreck-It Ralph. Everything after that ranged from decent (Zootopia, Moana) to meh (Frozen 1 + 2, Big Hero 6) to KILL IT WITH FIRE (Godmothered, all of the live action remakes, Ralph Breaks the Internet). They had a few winners here and there, but most of Disney's catalogue in the 2010s was utter trash, and it doesn't look like it's improving.

 

[Discourteous Discourse]

Godmothered

Hadn't heard of it, looked it up, immediate regret. It looks like a movie about a homeless fat troon just from the screenshots.

And that plot, wowee, someone wrote that, then an entire team of people greenlit it and filmed it. Part of the plot is that one of the kids has anxiety and has to sing at school. She has anxiety because the dad is dead. I'm guessing there's no talk of how to move on after losing a parent, or gathering the family and discussing what needs to happen next that will help them as a whole. No, no, let's just sing in public, and ride a watermelon carriage to the school festival. Oh, and the plot summary makes it sound like the fairy godfat had stalker behavior and broke into the family home.

 

[Xerxes IX]

Hadn't heard of it, looked it up, immediate regret. It looks like a movie about a homeless fat troon just from the screenshots.

And that plot, wowee, someone wrote that, then an entire team of people greenlit it and filmed it. Part of the plot is that one of the kids has anxiety and has to sing at school. She has anxiety because the dad is dead. I'm guessing there's no talk of how to move on after losing a parent, or gathering the family and discussing what needs to happen next that will help them as a whole. No, no, let's just sing in public, and ride a watermelon carriage to the school festival. Oh, and the plot summary makes it sound like the fairy godfat had stalker behavior and broke into the family home.

Godmothered looks like someone was inspired by that Amy Schumer as Barbie movie pitch.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

Why in the fuck do we need an origin story for characters like Nurse Ratched and Cruella de Vil? The point of Cruella is she's one-dimensionally evil. The point of Nurse Ratched is that she fulfills a plot function in OFOtCN. They aren't complex characters, and making them ACKSHUALLY complex won't change their functions and natures in their respective stories.

Oh, wait. It's because they're women, isn't it?

It's because "Sympathy For the Devil" has always been a popular trope for lazy hacks. The problem with it, is if you make a villain too multilayered and sympathetic, you can undermine their menace, especially if that villain is supposed to be a stand-in for a specific form of evil, like greed, power-lust, etc. It is possible to make a villain that's more complex and sympathetic via writing a prequel where you see their Start of Darkness, (bonus points for giving them a secret connection to the hero), but it's difficult to get right as you have to abide by the established rules of the universe, and it can be hard to generate sympathy for a villain that's fated to pass the Moral Event Horizon in their later years. (My God, I spent way too much of my youth at TVTropes.com....) Sometimes villains are just more fun or more scary when they're simple reflections of the worst of humanity, and not "they're Not So Different from the Hero. Pity them!"

 

[It'sallabitsillyreally]

Near as I can tell Cruella's origin story was as nonexistent as any other Disney villain's since they were short films for children and that nonsense was unneeded. She was a school friend of the owner of the female dalmatian, she was wealthy for some unspecified reasons (inherited wealth, black widow, fashion designer, sold children into labour in Australia or Canada like one UK charity did back in the day, who knows?) and she liked fur clothing. That was it and that was all it needed. but it was still memorable.

Hell they used her in Once Upon A Time and even in that, a series that likes its villain redemption arcs, she was pretty irredeemable. And funny at times too. For a Cruella movie I'd probably look at Debbie from Adam's Family Values as a starting point but Disney don't have the stones to make that sort of Cruella movie.

Though, off what they've shown so far, this still is not the worst thing Disney has done to Cruella.

 

[omori]

I always figured that Cruella’s backstory was her being a famous fashion designer that went to seed when fashion marched on and she couldn’t keep up with what was in vogue, went crazy over it, and decided to skin dogs for the shock value of it in attempt to get attention on her again.

Not... whatever this is.

 

[Xerxes IX]

I always figured that Cruella’s backstory was her being a famous fashion designer that went to seed when fashion marched on and she couldn’t keep up with what was in vogue, went crazy over it, and decided to skin dogs for the shock value of it in attempt to get attention on her again.

Not... whatever this is.

Her fashion was supposed to be extremely outdated. I saw an analysis on why a modern day Cruella looked all wrong because Disney didn't remember that point (don't remember if it was material for this movie, or something else)

 

[Shovel Mech Pilot]

Even my woke friends think this is too much bullshit. I can't wait to watch this crash and burn while Rotten Tomatoes blames misogyny, instead of the fact that they produced a movie that literally nobody wants to see.

 

[It'sallabitsillyreally]

I always figured that Cruella’s backstory was her being a famous fashion designer that went to seed when fashion marched on and she couldn’t keep up with what was in vogue, went crazy over it, and decided to skin dogs for the shock value of it in attempt to get attention on her again.

Not... whatever this is.

It makes the most sense with the "dahlings" and the wardrobe focused motivation. But she could as easily be a socialite who was no longer the talk of the town and was resorting to more and more extraordinary fashion choices to be noticed once more.

Either way like most simple villains aimed at children it did not matter that much. This however will be Maleficent all over again.