Dexter Franchise - Tonight's the night

[Samuel Fuller]

@Internet War Criminal We get it, you're a faggot.

 

[Korpon]

Stop being faggots about muh realism.

So unrealistic.

Lol

 

[UnKillFill]

Lady Vengeance didn't kill herself.

 

[MrGodSlave]

I want to relitigate this issue with Praters serial killer goon room, and a wider issue with the shows writing in general. I did err in rushing to criticise how Prater knew about Trinity, but in the universe Trinity is still considered to be alive. Only Jonah, Deb, Isaac Sirko and Harrison know Trinity is dead, yet Prater speaks of him in the past tense.

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This tour was structured entirely for Dexter, not Red, which would indicate Prater knows who he is, but I think the writers are just soggy for Dexter and can't get past it. Brian Moser gets an ironic "if only he wasn't alone he wouldn't have killed himself" wink wink nudge nudge. The blood slides are casually passed off as being acquired from an FBI agent with a gambling addiction. No mention of Doakes and seemingly no plaque.

Also can we agree that this little bearded thumb Tyrion being a swanky billionaire Entrepeneur is the most unbelievable horseshit of this entire franchise? Peter Dinklage is probably the richest dwarf on the planet and he's worth 20 million tops, earned entirely from playing a fucking dwarf. Vern Troyer and Wee Man probably earned a few mill, as would Hasbulla, but you see my point.

 

[Bâtard Consanguine]

Also can we agree that this little bearded thumb Tyrion being a swanky billionaire Entrepeneur is the most unbelievable horseshit of this entire franchise?

I just wish that they lampshaded it with a throwaway line of "after I turned 18, I discovered a trust fund set aside by my biological parents, which I invested and doubled before I was 20. I kept snowballing it from there". You'll notice there was never any mention of Prater's dwarfism, or at least not explicitly. Closest I can recall it coming up was when Dex asked Prater why he isn't a serial killer if he loves them so much, as Dinklage's body language seemed so be saying "because I'm a fucking midget, you retard". But that was just my interpretation, and as you can see by my previous comments here, my interpretations have been wrong plenty.

That's something I've been really annoyed by with Dinklage since Game of Thrones. He's been stamping his tiny little feet that he doesn't want to be the 'most famous dwarf actor', he wants to just be an actor, so all his rolls since have been very conspicuous in pretending he isn't like 3 feet tall. I did find it funny how in Avengers he played a space dwarf, but he was like 12 feet tall. But, he was the sole survivor, so he denied other dwarf actors in having gigs, yet again.

 

[MrGodSlave]

I just wish that they lampshaded it with a throwaway line of "after I turned 18, I discovered a trust fund set aside by my biological parents, which I invested and doubled before I was 20. I kept snowballing it from there". You'll notice there was never any mention of Prater's dwarfism, or at least not explicitly. Closest I can recall it coming up was when Dex asked Prater why he isn't a serial killer if he loves them so much, as Dinklage's body language seemed so be saying "because I'm a fucking midget, you retard". But that was just my interpretation, and as you can see by my previous comments here, my interpretations have been wrong plenty.

When Dexter first sees him there is a line from Prater about not looking like someone you'd expect. I feel Miami Dexter would have been making dwarf jokes to himself in internal monologue. You see the button to the secret room and the code to get inside are at his level, though the kitchen is built for normal people. I assume he has servants in other rooms preparing the food, or maybe Uma Thurman doubles as a cook. Since they decided to cast a dwarf in a non-dwarf role, I'm autistically focused on his serial killer collection room and how it is designed mostly for normal people, with the occasional midge level display. Does he get a little ladder and climb it when he wants to check out the Gemini photos?

That's something I've been really annoyed by with Dinklage since Game of Thrones. He's been stamping his tiny little feet that he doesn't want to be the 'most famous dwarf actor', he wants to just be an actor, so all his rolls since have been very conspicuous in pretending he isn't like 3 feet tall. I did find it funny how in Avengers he played a space dwarf, but he was like 12 feet tall. But, he was the sole survivor, so he denied other dwarf actors in having gigs, yet again.

He did the same in X-Men, which was also distracting as his character hated mutants and was meant to represent extremist normies. Dwarves are literally genetic mutations. That could have been an interesting angle if they played into him being a self-loathing midge instead of a midge who bizarrely wants to kill all humans with genetic mutations for no reason. In the interviews for the film he claimed the character studied human evolution and came to an intellectual decision or something as a cope for being a miserable little bug.

 

[Bâtard Consanguine]

He did the same in X-Men, which was also distracting as his character hated mutants and was meant to represent extremist normies. Dwarves are literally genetic mutations. That could have been an interesting angle if they played into him being a self-loathing midge instead of a midge who bizarrely wants to kill all humans with genetic mutations for no reason.

God gave them superpowers, but gave me chronic joint pain and a heart that will give out before I turn 60. I'm going to make a legion of killer robots out of spite!

 

[Pomniman]

All I really have to say about this franchise is that the books were more fun than the tv show, because screenwriters are typically a special breed of shit-for-brains faggot, but are still slop.

 

[Bâtard Consanguine]

All I really have to say about this franchise is that the books were more fun than the tv show, because screenwriters are typically a special breed of shit-for-brains faggot, but are still slop.

I read the first one because I happened upon it in one of those free mini libraries, best thing about it was LaGuerta was killed off at the end.

 

[With the actors on it?]

Was the Gemini twist hinted at before Cat and Mouse?
I don't remember if anything was hinting at it

 

[TheHarbinger]

I hated the ending of the show... and still do, it was lazy writing after season 4, but... I was happy with him ending up as a lumberjack years after the episode aired. Dexter, stuck in a living hell, with the urge to kill constantly gnawing at him as far from paradise as you can get without it being a frozen fucking tundra.

The ending is basically the same ending as The Shield but instead of being more final and concluded it's left completely open for an eventual sequel. It's basically framed like a reboot is right around the corner. As dear old Dexter is now relaunching his life from Upstate New York. When it first aired everyone immediately assumed a soft reboot was coming. People were writing spec scripts and sending them to Showtime. A few people who worked on the show including Michael C Hall said that anticipated returning one day for more Dexter.

People also hated the immediate cop-out that the ending created. Where it looked like maybe Dexter was going to drown in the same waters that the Bay Harbor Butcher left his victims to rot in years ago. A fitting and poetic ending. Instead he swims his way through a hurricane with superhero level plot armor back to shore like he's immortal.

But that was never the intention of the writers.

The original Dexter ending was him in the electric chair awaiting execution. And the entire story before that was him narrating his own life. That's why the original show run has you inside Dexter's head constantly. Showtime rejected that ending and wanted four more seasons of Dexter fighting villains of the week to sell more DVDs and subscriptions. The writers were not allowed to kill Dexter. It was a major point of contention in the writers' room. Multiple writers and producers quit and the showrunner quit and had to be replaced with someone who would obey Showtime's want to extend the show and franchise it.

If the job is "write a sequel story to Dexter," how the fuck do they do that? Well, they might just have to fudge some details.

The first four seasons of Dexter are setting up the original ending of Dexter being caught then executed. Rita's death was meant to expose Dexter as being deep in the serial killer community enough that he'd eventually get discovered. The next four are retconning those seasons and setting up for more sequels and prequels. One of the retcons was making the Trinity Killer's family no longer wanting to seek out their father's friend 'Kyle' which would have been done different if the original ending of Dexter was considered.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Was the Gemini twist hinted at before Cat and Mouse?
I don't remember if anything was hinting at it

Considering how unsubtle the writing is, if there had been a hint, it would have hit like a 10-megaton brick to the face, so I am pretty sure there wasn't.

 

[Grundlejungle]

Considering how unsubtle the writing is, if there had been a hint, it would have hit like a 10-megaton brick to the face, so I am pretty sure there wasn't.

There was absolutely a hint. Have you watched the scenes with Gemini and it he alternates between drinking with his left hand holding the glass, and his right hand holding the glass. It's incredibly subtle, but it's something that I caught on the first watch because all the small details in Dexter are important. The show loves doing subtle foreshadowing, and you can catch it if you're looking.
The new season has been excellent so far, every episode I'm shocked by how we're so back.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

There was absolutely a hint. Have you watched the scenes with Gemini and it he alternates between drinking with his left hand holding the glass, and his right hand holding the glass. It's incredibly subtle, but it's something that I caught on the first watch because all the small details in Dexter are important. The show loves doing subtle foreshadowing, and you can catch it if you're looking.
The new season has been excellent so far, every episode I'm shocked by how we're so back.

Only 1 in 20 identical twins are discordant. And what are the chances that they’d be discordant AND trying to pass off as each others AND serial killers?

So unrealistic.

 

[TheHarbinger]

There was absolutely a hint. Have you watched the scenes with Gemini and it he alternates between drinking with his left hand holding the glass, and his right hand holding the glass.

The show took that from Epitafios most likely. The Dexter writers pilfered quite bit from that series actually.

 

[Grundlejungle]

Only 1 in 20 identical twins are discordant. And what are the chances that they’d be discordant AND trying to pass off as each others AND serial killers?

So unrealistic.

Nigga, this is Dexter. What are the odds of someone managing to hunt down a 150+ serial killers, killing and disposing of said killers, and then getting away with it completely scott free? If you want realism go be a fag and watch The Wire.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

I’m sorry but Dexter is high quality TV and it will be a travesty until we have a Dexter in Yukon season where he wants to open a gun shop but faces his most deadly foe yet: Canadian gun laws.

 

[With the actors on it?]

There was absolutely a hint. Have you watched the scenes with Gemini and it he alternates between drinking with his left hand holding the glass, and his right hand holding the glass. It's incredibly subtle, but it's something that I caught on the first watch because all the small details in Dexter are important. The show loves doing subtle foreshadowing, and you can catch it if you're looking.
The new season has been excellent so far, every episode I'm shocked by how we're so back.

I never noticed that huh, good catch man

 

[With the actors on it?]

That new episode was really fucken good, I loved the stuff with Batista at the end too

 

[innocent jogger]

That lastest episode of dexter is TRASH. I literally had to stop watching I was taken out so badly.

I’m sorry, am I supposed to believe that:

<SNIP>

It's just a TV show. Settle down there, Pop Corn.

Was the Gemini twist hinted at before Cat and Mouse?
I don't remember if anything was hinting at it

Well Gemini is astro-voodoo for a pair of twins, "he" always killed pairs and arranged them as such and there were somewhat subtle hints with the bookmark and with what hand "he" held his drink. I only noticed because it seemed like more attention than necessary was drawn to the drinking thing. Or maybe I'm just autistic.

I agree with whoever it was that predicted on here that Prater will turn out to be some sort of cannibal. Or at least there is something fucked up with whatever he was feeding everybody. They also mention him being a "chef", etc. in his TV interview.

I just finished episode 6 (I just realized the series was out last night lol) and somethings I am keeping my eye on are Red's hat that was with Charley through the whole first Prater meeting and the fact that Dexter carries around a fucking Prater cell phone everywhere gives plenty of ways for them to be tracking him.

Episode 6 is already showing too much filler with the wake and shit too, but Harrison is acting like a lot less of an angsty dickweed than previously so I'm going to be optimistic. His character has potential and the actor himself isn't bad at all, they just keep writing him as an Anakin-level bitch when they want drama. Or something.