Designated Whiner Shitting Street - General non DSP-specific discussion and stupid questions goes here

(I honestly forget what the 2nd one was for, was it also for the legal tender thing?
2nd strike was the blue-beard-incident. As the link by @Haunter stated, each streamer comes with uniqueness and they should not feel unwelcome for what they are or how they look like. Which I can totally get behind. An elitist community who excludes members with "unwanted traits" is a dead community to begin with. So the temp ban for mocking him cuz of a blue beard was spot on.

I think there are ways you can talk "bad" about other streamers but there is a fine line to what's allowed. Twitch can only create general rules, but they can't tell details or should give examples, this would only animate people to nearly miss the line on purpose.

That being said, reporting Phil for showing his feet for 1 second is pretty autistic. I haven't looked up if this rule really exists, but people say it does so I will trust them for now. This rule wouldn't effect Phil in the slightest because it's obvious that such a rule exist for foot fetish streamers, because this would make a hell lot of sense. Nobody will get horny when Phil jumps on his couch and his hooves can be seen for a fraction. His jumping had a completely different context.

Maybe this is the same context Phil speaks about, but mostly fails to elaborate in a way that could be understood. For example his shitty jokes which could be haaate speach and such. No, a shitty joke is still ment as a joke. Phil doesn't set on a straight face and says "Man I really hate Asians. I would bomb them to nirvana if I could". I guess being insensitive isn't good enough to get a strike, which is fine in my book.

However, the more I think about it, the less I understand why he didn't get a strike for the 11 year old pimp slap incident. This was 100% against the rules.
Maybe a case of oversaturation, too many reports, Twitch ignored it.
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That being said, reporting Phil for showing his feet for 1 second is pretty autistic. I haven't looked up if this rule really exists, but people say it does so I will trust them for now. This rule wouldn't effect Phil in the slightest because it's obvious that such a rule exist for foot fetish streamers, because this would make a hell lot of sense. Nobody will get horny when Phil jumps on his couch and his hooves can be seen for a fraction. His jumping had a completely different context.

This was the dumbest part of that video and it came at the end leaving the impression that the entire thing was comedy, it was so stupid it made you forget anything that came beforehand. There is no rule on Twitch against showing your feet, the rule is against showing body parts in response to direct chat requests especially if the request is made in a tip or cheer.

It's a stupid WingsOfRedemption meme that's funny because of how he reacted to being told that when he just showed his foot it was a Twitch TOS violation. Technically it was, because chat was asking about some disease that had been effecting his foot and then asked to see his foot and he showed them saying, "See? It's all better," but it definitely didn't violate the spirit of that rule which is why it was so funny he shut his stream down and deleted the VOD; now paranoid that people asking about his health were out to get him.

Dave was asked something like, 'Do you wear sneakers or sandals when you stream?' and showed his bare foot. He wasn't asked and for sure no one wanted to see it lol If Dave wanted he could move his camera back a bit and have his bare feet visible all day. It only becomes a TOS violation if someone in streamchat says, "Lemme see them toes fatboy," and he presents them to the camera. If you're going to report Dave for something at least know what the fucking rules are. Might as well report that time he started his stream with his facecam pointed at his chest for 'showing his tits' :lol:

There is a rule against showing your nipples(male or female) that violates the Nudity and Attire section, so that time he pulled his shirt up and exposed his chest was 100% violation of Twitch's Nudity policy.
 
Maybe this is the same context Phil speaks about, but mostly fails to elaborate in a way that could be understood. For example his shitty jokes which could be haaate speach and such. No, a shitty joke is still ment as a joke. Phil doesn't set on a straight face and says "Man I really hate Asians. I would bomb them to nirvana if I could". I guess being insensitive isn't good enough to get a strike, which is fine in my book.

You're mostly right, but if Phil made a joke using the word "faggot" or any other slur (or did a chicky ching chang chong chocka chokka bit), he would probably (and should, based on Twitch's TOS) get suspended, even if it was a joke, cause it would fall under hate speech.
 
You're mostly right, but if Phil made a joke using the word "faggot" or any other slur (or did a chicky ching chang chong chocka chokka bit), he would probably (and should, based on Twitch's TOS) get suspended, even if it was a joke, cause it would fall under hate speech.
Agreed to a degree. As a comedian stated: Every group has the right to be laughed at. However, as we Germans tend to say: The tone makes the music (It's not what you say, but how you say it).
Dave is horrible at transmitting a light hearted joke. I mean, just an obvious short "racist" joke is fine if it's clearly just a little friendly mock, many people can laugh about themselfs.
But Dave often falls back to primitive insults out of nowhere, without a punchline or a clarification, he transmits the picture of a guy who thinks very low about foreign and "different" people. Doesn't really matter if he really thinks that way, it's just very irresponsible to give people the impression it's fine to mock people because they are part of a social group. And these behaviors shouldn't be tolerated.

This guy just uses his brain if he's involved. Fuck everyone else, he's the King of Hate, people hate him because he says stuff without a filter (lol, especially after his shill stream). More like, he's an unsocial little whiny bitch who can't control himself. Unless Kat is there or he gets paid by big companies.
 
As others have said, I think over saturation has helped Phil. It created a boy who cried wolf situation with whatever twitch employee is unlucky enough to have the job of going through reports. If you get a string of reports for tiny little infractions it'll look like a trolling effort and make any other complaint seem invalid because nobody wants to go through all those reports to try and find a valid one. Especially if there's an actual tweet/video campaign with people calling on other users to report Phil for XYZ. Keep in mind, to Twitch, Phil is ultimately a pretty small streamer. In a bubble, it seems like Phil makes them a lot of money, but his sub count is minuscule compared to actual big name streamers, and while Phil does have a couple of whales who throw out tons of bits and what not, big name streamers have tons of people like that, and because a lot of the big name streamers are actually charismatic, they have legitimate fans throwing out bits. And, it happens more consistently, since the big streamers don't have to make up emergencies or beg for bits.

As always, Phil is his own biggest detractor. If he's going to get in trouble with a company, whether Twitch or YouTube or whatever, it will be through his own dumbass self doing something, not because a bunch of people on twitter got together to report him because one time he implied he wanted bits or having his foot visible for a second. It'll be from something larger he does on his own. And honestly, he has done stuff large enough to get in trouble, but I think it got swept aside in a sea of minor complaints.
 
A topic that stays with me: why can't DSP get away with the same things other e-celebs and entertainers can? Is it because we have too good a read on his character? Other people retain the benefit of the doubt by keeping quiet about their maladjustment?

I wanted to make a thread, but no matter how I worded things it seemed antagonistic.
So it will live here for now.
 
A topic that stays with me: why can't DSP get away with the same things other e-celebs and entertainers can? Is it because we have too good a read on his character? Other people retain the benefit of the doubt by keeping quiet about their maladjustment?

I wanted to make a thread, but no matter how I worded things it seemed antagonistic.
So it will live here for now.

I won't try and speak for anybody else, but it's not just one thing with Phil. It's a combination of the complete entitlement about (or lack of appreciation for, however you choose to view it) how ungodly lucky he is to be making the money he does for what he does, his ego, and his total lack of any humility, social skills, or grace. The most recent example is the shit with Youtube. He admits to breaking the Adsense TOS by having multiple accounts, and when Youtube still gives DSPGaming monetization back anyway, is he grateful? No. He cooks up some shit about how he threatened them and that was how it came back. There's the stuff with John Rambo, Howard, and the others. The paid shill tweets. The Ninja/Drake tweets. The way he responds to any criticism from a person he considers a nobody with insults and blocking.

The sheer unmitigated and unwarranted ego he has is so thoroughly off-putting, in my opinion, that it effectively ruins any chance at getting benefit of the doubt. He routinely berates fans and strangers alike. He doesn't just bitch at the game he's playing, but he routinely insults the developers (despite having no background or experience in the field) and insults people for liking things he doesn't like. Despite his claims, he appears to be physically and psychically incapable of simply acknowledging that he doesn't like something without ginning up some kind of "and everybody else who's not a moron agrees with me" side story.

Along the same lines, can you name a single charitable thing Phil has done that didn't also benefit him or wasn't some half-assed thing that nobody else would consider charitable? The only time I'm aware of that he did an actual giveaway (so, not an empty box or a signed business card) was when he gave away the PS4 that Leanna didn't want. Otherwise, he's never leveraged what fame he has to raise money for anything other than himself, he's never raided another streamer on Twitch...he does literally nothing but think of himself. He doesn't even offer to pay fans for their artwork, he doesn't pay the guy who is the webmaster of, and does basically everything for, his website and forums. He often has to be reminded to even thank the people who do shit for him for free.

And the last thing I'll bring up is how he tries to act like he's some kind of authority on adulthood just because he has a condo, car, and debt. He has no familial (wife, kids) responsibilities. His financial responsibilities are of his own doing (he doesn't have to help out family members or anything). He, by his own admission, only learned to do laundry at the age of 35 after Leanna peaced out. He can't cook more than, what, 4-6 things that aren't pre-packaged meals? And despite all of this, he has the sack to say he works 12 hours a day and has no free time to do other stuff, despite often documenting via Twitter and Instagram the numerous hours spent watching his TV.

I apologize for the novella here, and I want to be clear that this isn't a "Mad on the Internet"(TM) situation. I just wanted to give your extremely fair question a full and detailed answer of why he gets no real slack from my perspective.

Edit: Just now, after Phil's webcam fucked up or something and it took him forever to reboot whatever computer he needed to reboot:
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He just can't not be a total asshole.
 
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A topic that stays with me: why can't DSP get away with the same things other e-celebs and entertainers can? Is it because we have too good a read on his character? Other people retain the benefit of the doubt by keeping quiet about their maladjustment?

At first I read this as "why can DSP get away with the same things other e-celebs and entertainers can't?" Spun back the proper way, I the think question is a bit more difficult to answer.

Because I am both a nitpicking dickhead and hope I can give some kinda helpful input, we may have to define what is an "e-celeb" and what is "get away with the same things?" A blogging "Yogalebrity", a meme like "Lonely Virgil", or some spaz like Bryan Dunn are all to a degree celebrities on the internet and yet they don't easily fall within a single category.

We could separate the category into two classes, "famous" e-celebs and "infamous" e-celebs. The career of the internet "famous" Yoga star depends on a mix of image, hopefully real knowledge and ability, and marketing. Failures in one of these areas critical to that kind of e-celeb could lead to "failing to get away with something DSP could". But that's of course not true because no one expects standards like those things from "infamous" Phil.

I could write an essay about this, so I'll let someone else add their thoughts before committing anymore of mine to keyboard :D
 
But that's of course not true because no one expects standards like those things from "infamous" Phil.
I think this is the magical sentence. Nobody expects anything from Phil as he is already the bottom of the barrel. We don't deal with a real pahsitive real famous celebrity who has anything to lose, he is the aftermath of a failed career. And even then he gets his ass kicked when he openly says very stupid stuff, so he can indeed fall even further.

So I don't think he really managed to get away with very much. As our existence is proof enough, we are the revolution born from his actions.
 
People give him a lot less slack because theyre just waiting for the cosmic karma to hit him. Look anywhere on this sub forum and you can see a lot of anger directed at someone who doesnt deserve to be at his station of life.

He is no longer a lolcow. The guy has clamped down on his chat, comments on videos, non gaming content, his gaming content is boring and relies on chat/looking at guides mid stream on his phone, complaining, tihydp has dropped in quality, hour long prestreams of preaching to the masses for donations. He is now the guy clutching at straws (or other people's wallets) to survive.

This isnt watching a dumpster fire, this is watching the last flickering embers before it goes out. At least entertainment-wise. The pigroach will probably survive a bit longer.
 
People give him a lot less slack because theyre just waiting for the cosmic karma to hit him. Look anywhere on this sub forum and you can see a lot of anger directed at someone who doesnt deserve to be at his station of life.

He is no longer a lolcow. The guy has clamped down on his chat, comments on videos, non gaming content, his gaming content is boring and relies on chat/looking at guides mid stream on his phone, complaining, tihydp has dropped in quality, hour long prestreams of preaching to the masses for donations. He is now the guy clutching at straws (or other people's wallets) to survive.

This isnt watching a dumpster fire, this is watching the last flickering embers before it goes out. At least entertainment-wise. The pigroach will probably survive a bit longer.

Yeah, that's why the children swatting at the embers is an integral part of the entertainment for me.

I really don't get why you'd want to just watch Dave be bad at life alone with Sidella and Swagginz forever.
 
Yeah, that's why the children swatting at the embers is an integral part of the entertainment for me.

I really don't get why you'd want to just watch Dave be bad at life alone with Sidella and Swagginz forever.

It's been mentioned before in other parts of the forum, but usually it isn't a case of nobody should mess with Phil, it's just a lot of the people attempting to mess with Phil aren't funny or are trying way too hard. There's tons of posts in the general thread with people screenshotting funny troll posts in the chat and there was Tevin's name or face or whatever hidden in the background of the artwork etc. That kind of stuff is done by "detractors" but it's (arguably) funny. Hosting a 12 hour podcast or mailing a giant cardboard dick or paying money for Phil to ignore an obvious troll cheer that doesn't get any kind of reaction isn't funny. It also stops being funny if you're lashing out at Phil in rage, but that's largely because those types come here to make a long post bitching about how Phil is the worst thing in the world.
 
I want a dedicated "Speak like Phil Burnell Day" ... This celebration would also include unnecessary self-defence, insults, salty behavior, looking back at our own legacy, begging, basically the whole Phil-mindset.

*clears throat* Ladies and gentlemen, now I know people are saying *mocking voice* "Oh, DSP is necro'ing a ten day old post and he said he'd never do that!"

BUT. But, ladies and gentlemen. What you have to understand is a lot of people have been asking me to do a "Speak like The King" day, okay?

*Kickstart sip*

Now, I have to make sure this day will have enough interactivity because uh real talk, okay? My checking account is overdrawn and, sadly, there's nothing I can do. I have had this checking account for ten years. TEN YEARS. For the last ten years I have had a Platinum-Level Checking Account with First Renton Credit Union! And I'm not about to throw that all away because of some shit that one hundred percent was not my fault!

Oh! Sidella cheered and said "Gas the..." okay, I'm uhh not reading that, but thank you for the cheer.
 
So, what's the story (if any) behind the "Don't Blow This!" group dumping Phil?

I watched a vid where it said they were a small group of his Connecticut friends (other than John and Howard), who used to do videos and live streams with him.

I'm guessing he pissed them off somehow? Because I've never heard them mentioned at all... then again, I'm relativity new to Phil's bullshit.
 
So, what's the story (if any) behind the "Don't Blow This!" group dumping Phil?
I don't know how it ended, but the last time he was asked about it (this year) he said and I quote "People have asked about Don't Blow This which has nothing to do with anything."
Here's the most recent archive of their website: https://web.archive.org/web/20130630094047/http://www.dontblowthis.com:80/
Here's their Twitch channel which still has a bunch of VODs on it: https://www.twitch.tv/dontblowthis
 
what's the context of the "me ... *points at self* ... REE!" video clip?

I don't think I've ever seen the original full length clip, just when it is used all over the place as a funny reaction meme.
 
what's the context of the "me ... *points at self* ... REE!" video clip?

I don't think I've ever seen the original full length clip, just when it is used all over the place as a funny reaction meme.

He declaimed others for getting money that he believed should rightful have gone to him. "I'm the one who operated a successful YouTube channel!" In emphasis he adds, "Me!". Then, to heighten it even further, he repeats "Me", only the second times it comes out as the garbled, "Ree!" To the delight of the internet, "Ree!" happens to be a current meme used when someone is stupidly yelling at others.

I only know it from Secretlifeofdsp's "Top Ten Worst DSPGaming 2017 Moments" video. Someone else has the clip with a bit of the lead up https://youtu.be/_SnCyD6D408
 
what's the context of the "me ... *points at self* ... REE!" video clip?

I don't think I've ever seen the original full length clip, just when it is used all over the place as a funny reaction meme.

He declaimed others for getting money that he believed should rightful have gone to him. "I'm the one who operated a successful YouTube channel!" In emphasis he adds, "Me!". Then, to heighten it even further, he repeats "Me", only the second times it comes out as the garbled, "Ree!" To the delight of the internet, "Ree!" happens to be a current meme used when someone is stupidly yelling at others.

I only know it from Secretlifeofdsp's "Top Ten Worst DSPGaming 2017 Moments" video. Someone else has the clip with a bit of the lead up https://youtu.be/_SnCyD6D408
If I recall correctly, it came from the Machinima Break-Up Emergency Blog. From that day forth, they became known as “Ree-mergency Blogs”.
 
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