Debate user The_Cowcel about incels.

[Getmeout]

What zero pussy does to a mf.

Women are amazing, don't be silly.

As a woman, trust me, we suck generally. Obviously don't avoid all women, there are very nice women out there, but if you generally cut women out of your life you really won't lose much.

 

[mnt_ms]

if you generally cut women out of your life you really won't lose much.

Most people are much better off with someone rather than alone.
It takes time to find someone that suits you, but all good things require time and effort.

 

[Getmeout]

Most people are much better off with someone rather than alone.
It takes time to find someone that suits you, but all good things require time and effort.

I generally agree with that, ya

 

[pro drivor]

"The opium trade produced a rationale for the Christian presence in China, turning the country into a depraved mass of opium sots to be disciplined and improved by salvation-hungry missionaries."

History repeats in a gayer and less justified way

Replace opium with porn, missionaries with feminism, sots with gooners, and China with male sexuality and you get the incels we are dealing with today. History really does repeat itself in very gay ways.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I promised to be mean, and be mean I shall. Fuck this nigger.

I think my depression and desperation just sap me of all energy and motivation

"Awwww depression made me have no energy!!! Wahh". You're a fucking faggot.

If nothing I do seems to matter then why put myself through hardship?

Then don't get up in the morning. Neck yourself now.

Everything just seems pointless so it's hard to force myself to do much more than the bare minimum and I do everything so slowly,

Have you tried not whining and crying about everything in life for five fucking minutes you insufferable nigger?

this post alone has taken me hours to write

Because you're retarded and jumping through five loops to make excuses for why you're a fag.

I don't know how to do that though, I don't know how to just change my though framework

You wake up and do it and stop being a retard.

I've tried therapy and pharmaceuticals with little to know benefit, I've restarted therapy, but I just don't see how any of this is meant to help me this time when it never has in the past.

Therapy can't help you if you're a fucking faggot.

I just don't see how any of this is meant to help me this time when it never has in the past.

Oh well, nothing to do but neck.

my envy and inability to relate to what should be normal experiences that I should have at by this point in my life.

LMAO you're a salty incel.

I want to feel wanted

You're not wanted and you've spent 15 pages displaying for all of us why. You're a complaining faggot who never stops whining and crying.

she is a mental case as well and can't handle me being unhappy

"My mom tried to help me be happy. It wasn't enough" The Thread. Your mom would've been better off injecting you with testosterone.

How do I enjoy things?

You don't. Kill yourself plz.

How do I get a social life?

Well you nuked this parasocial one here.

Even when I had a friend of my sister who who visited and was meant to try and help me get out I ended up lashing out at/in front of multiple times because of my jealousy and hopelessness and the one time we went out and did something it didn't lead to me meeting anyone new that I hadn't made an ass of myself in front of

Wow. Friend tries to help you and you lash out because you're too much of an autistic faggot to do...well anything really. LMAO
Friend: I'm here to help!
Cowcel: SEETHE

I was a fairly normal kid and somewhat functional as a teen

I doubt that.

I can't even manage male friendships with anyone who isn't also a loser

Lol, loser.

I'm trying

No you're not.

I'm going out in a kind of social setting today,

Which you probably ruined.

gym

For 30 minutes because you're also fat.

I feel like I fall far below that line.

Because you do.

stop trying to live

This is the best advice you can ever take. Please kill yourself.

 

[General Patton]

This is why my unpopular opinion is that genuinely some of the anti-psych shit said on here is legitimately dangerous. Obviously it's fine to state your opinion, but I've definitely seen some farmers try to get other farmers off their meds. You don't know why someone is on them.

Oh, I agree. It is. I've seen what happens when people have a serious mental illness (Bipolar, Schizophrenia and Schizo-Affective) and what happens to them if they go off their medication. It's scary.

I don't care if you're against medication. Do NOT tell them to go off their prescribed medication. It will end badly.

 

[Mamimi]

From Why Does He Do That?: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men

HOW CAN I TELL IF A MAN I’M SEEING WILL BECOME ABUSIVE?

• He is controlling.

And infidelity comes from financial independence. Dependency keeps relationships together, people today are sick and treat any form of stabilizing factors in a relationship as signs of abuse.

Removal of financial independence, cutting someone off from family, friends and therapists who could provide dissenting opinions that sort of thing. IMO it's all down to what results from that. I don't think it's all that crazy for a man to not want a dozen people whispering lies about him into his wife's ear and telling her to leave him or for her to easily be able to leave with little consequence. It sounds abusive and controlling on the surface but if it's still a loving relationship then I don't see the problem. I've never seen it happen personally but whenever I mention such an idea I get accusations of being an abuser.

• He is possessive.

Yet people accuse me of being abusive despite having been single my whole life just because I don't want my hypothetical woman to be influenced against me or tempted by other men.

Of course I'd be doing everything I could to keep her and to get rid of outside influences that could turn her against me or seduce her. I can't imagine ever trusting a woman fully, they just have so much more leverage in relationships now days due to their ability to find another man at the drop of a hat meanwhile I've dedicated my life to getting a woman without so much as a first date. Is it really that unreasonable for me to be paranoid, especially given that people tend to like me less the better they get to know me?

• Nothing is ever his fault.

I just outsource my decision making to family.

No reason to assume it's my personality that's the problem rather than my delayed developmental state.

• He is self-centered.

A lot of the problems I have with friendly and familial relationships all stem from me trying to get help leaving my isolation but ironically that often ends up driving others away due to my lack of interest in anything and my lack of social interactions when I do go out.

Incel mass shooters aren't the problem, the fact that we're suffering enough to justify these actions is a problem. Why don't you fucking fix that instead?

• He abuses drugs or alcohol.

My lack of poon is driving me to alcoholism, I socialize to try to build a social circle but without alcohol I don't have the confidence or willingness to socialize so I end up spending 30 hours per week drunk being a nuisance in public groups online.

• He pressures you for sex.

Hence why sex is at the same level as food and water on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. I'm what happens when that need is denied over a prolonged period of time without ever having tasted it.

You people are subhuman and deserving of death. You'd rather kill men for the crime of being sexless rather than forcing these evil whores to settle for average men. Fuck you cunt.

• He gets serious too quickly about the relationship.

I want specific advice so I can try to filter down to what would work best, If I don't have much interest in anything for it's own sake then I might as well compare my options based on likeliness of being able to encounter women from it, accessibility and cost. I just don't know what people do these days or how much most things cost to get into.

If a girlfriend isn't for me then at that point life isn't for me, it's the only thing I really want in life, everything else is just secondary.

• He intimidates you when he’s angry.

Motherfucker it's THE WOMEN THAT HAVE CONDEMNED ME TO THIS FUCKING LIFE. NOTHING TO DO WITH FORUMS, I WAS LIKE THIS BEFORE THE FUCKING FORUMS. I NEED A WOMAN AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE TERRORISTS FOR DENYING THAT TO MEN LIKE ME.

• He has double standards.

Don't most men try to avoid their woman leaving them and try to preemptively find replacements for if and when that does happen? Women have very little reason to be loyal now days knowing how easily they can get a new man.

Depending on the circumstance I might be tempted to. If I'm not attracted to my girlfriend, think she'll stay with me even if she finds out and I like the new girl more it would be hard to pass up the opportunity and that's the position any woman I get would find herself in.

• He has negative attitudes toward women.

It's also worth noting the differences in the types of jobs men and women work, men work in fields with uncomfortable conditions, high work loads, and risks of injury and death, women get easy jobs where they basically just have to look pretty and do easy shit in an airconditioned buiding all the while making as much or more than men risking our lives which means that these sluts have no reason to settle for anything but the men they think they deserve because women aren't desperate for sex because they know they can g

• He appears to be attracted to vulnerability.

Wouldn't she take constantly being treated well as a sign of extreme desperation and be driven to cheat because she knows she'll be able to get away with anything because I can't afford to lose her?

Obviously Cowcel has never abused a woman because he's never been in a relationship, but his attitude indicates it's just better for everyone that he isn't until he gets his act together.

 

[The_Cowcel]

Were you ever physically abused as a child? It would track with your issues.

No, my family life was fine.

You should start with learning how to make friends.

Been trying most of my life and it has never gone well, they always turn on me eventually which has just lead to an aversion to socializing, especially IRL.

Well you nuked this parasocial one here.

Yep, as typically happens for me, it's a shame, you seemed like a cool guy, I'm used to it at this point.

Wow. Friend tries to help you and you lash out because you're too much of an autistic faggot to do...well anything really. LMAO
Friend: I'm here to help!
Cowcel: SEETHE

He was talking right in front of me with a relative of mine about how I act like my problems are way worse than they are and pretending that I still have plenty of time to find a woman while ignoring all the time I've already wasted trying, he never actually did anything to try and help me, I never got to see him attempt to socialize with new people so I had nothing to learn from.

I doubt that.

Point is there has been a clear downwards trajectory in my ability to function and socialize.

Which you probably ruined.

No I just didn't do much of anything in terms of socializing.

Oh, I agree. It is. I've seen what happens when people have a serious mental illness (Bipolar, Schizophrenia and Schizo-Affective) and what happens to them if they go off their medication. It's scary.

I don't have any serious mental illness, I just have a shitty miserable life, I'd be perfectly happy if I could have a normal life.

 

[General Patton]

I'd be perfectly happy if I could have a normal life.

No. You'd have a happy life if you cut out the incel bullshit and get saner views.

 

[thyme]

kiwisisters Im not reading the whole thread but I searched for shrimp and it didnt come up
OP you need to try shrimping- what have you got to lose?

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Yep, as typically happens for me, it's a shame, you seemed like a cool guy, I'm used to it at this point.

Its because your patheticness and inability to turn off your autism makes you insufferable. There are no less than 4 other pages where I tried to be a friend and help you and what did I get for it?

Cowcel: wahhh, wahh I can't, baby cowcel wants vagina but dun wanna get it wahh wahhh wahhh

He was talking right in front of me with a relative of mine about how I act like my problems are way worse than they are and pretending that I still have plenty of time to find a woman while ignoring all the time I've already wasted trying, he never actually did anything to try and help me, I never got to see him attempt to socialize with new people so I had nothing to learn from.

See? This is why everyone makes fun of you. It's not YOUR fault for crying. It's not YOUR fault for failing to launch. It's everyone else's for not TEACHING you. Nigga...you need some ass hole to teach you how to make friends? Fuck, you're pathetic.

No I just didn't do much of anything in terms of socializing.

Which is what I said, ruining it.

I don't have any serious mental illness, I just have a shitty miserable life, I'd be perfectly happy if I could have a normal life

You're right, you don't have a serious mental illness. You're just fat, lazy, and retarded. You cling to this Love Quest because you literally have nothing else going in life so you made up a problem and cucked yourself eternally because the alternative is admitting you're a boring loser. So this is how your fragile little psyche copes. You don't have a #lifestory so you invented one by being Ultra Autistic.

How do I know that? Because I've a met dozens of guys like you. There's plenty of NEVER TOUCHED virgins out there but none of them are as insufferable as you.

 

[Duke Nukem]

kiwisisters Im not reading the whole thread but I searched for shrimp and it didnt come up
OP you need to try shrimping- what have you got to lose?
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This is a great story, honestly anything is better than what he's doing now. He's probably scared shitless of the possibility that women will find any interest he takes up to be for losers and nerds and go for Chad anyway.

He needs something that's unrelated to women and relationships and dating and shit.

 

[Decapitated Nigger Baby]

@The_Cowcel
Nigga. You sit in front of your stupid computer, alone, in your stupid room. You probably eat shit food, sleep at unreasonable hours, jerk off to whatever smut you jerk off to daily, abuse substances and then you come here and wallow in your self pity like a pig rolling in its own shit.

You do not live and behave like a human being has evolved to live and behave. Your biology will not adapt to this lifestyle. You're already falling apart at least mentally as you have demonstrated ITT.

Women are the least of your concerns right now. You need to fix yourself before any help will come. Such is the truth of life on this earth. Nobody wants you when you're down. People, male and female can just smell your condition from a mile away. You will not attract anyone, especially a partner by continuing down this path.

Fix your shit little by little. Focus on the immidiate 24 hours. Start by easy things then work your way up the difficulty ladder:
1. Hygiene. Fix your fucking appearance. Put on some new clothes from time to time. Shave and shower.

2. Sleep. Get enough sleep at decent fucking hours (anywhere between 22:00 and 10:00, 6-10 hours depending on genetics. I'd expect you'll need more sleep in your current physical and mental state. above 12 for a couple of days is normal. just get enough)

3. Diet. Cut the sugar and other shitty slop you consume out. No more frozen pizzas and hotpockets. Eat normal food. Your gut communicates directly with your brain. If you fill it with shit you'll feel like shit.

4. Get out of your room. Walk. Take long walks. I don't expect you to be able to talk to anyone right now. Just walk, see the green, feel the sun on your skin. You're not meant to sit in concrete walls 24/7.

5. Exercise. Start by going easy on yourself and increase the intensity and frequency little by little. Can you do 10 push ups? give me 10 for starters. You can find everything you need on the internet. Honestly how you train and what exercises you do and with what form are of secondary importance. Just start moving.

5.5. While we are at it, now that you will have SOMETHING to do with yourself why don't you cut the computer out. Let's say one hour less per day for one week. Then two hours less. Then three. Anything is better than reading this brainrot you've been reading and doing what you've been doing in front of that screen.

6. Alcohol/drugs/nicotine/whatever - out. now. go to rehab if you need to. just cut it out.

6.5. Your mental help needs professional help. Nobody on this forum will help you. Some of them are worse than you. I can't help you. Seek behavioral theraphy. And probably for your addictions too.

7. Join your local AA group. You need to open your mouth to people. You may not like it but it's necessary. Start with your local AA I'd say. They'll listen to you and try to understand. Just maybe don't talk about your thoughts about women too much. Tell them about your day or something.

THEN after a couple of weeks of normalization you can move on to seeking hobbies, getting a job and THEN you may be able to attract friends and more.

I am definitely not a good or decent person myself. I've been to low places. I've hurt other people including women who were foolish enough to have trusted me. But trust me that however low you are there is no pit of despair you can't drag yourself out of.

It brings me no satisfaction seeing you like this and this is probably the realest post I've ever made on this website and it will probably the realest post I'll make for a long time. Good luck to you. Man to man.
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[draggs]

empathy farming

Nigga you need to hit rock bottom to break your pattern. All you do is

1. Whine and cry trying to manipulate people into paying attention to you, to gib you some empathy
2. Deflect and deny the attention and empathy you receive because if you improve you won't get that attention and empathy any more
3. Whine and cry when people decide to stop wasting their time, hoping your whining and crying manipulates new people into paying attention to you
4. Deflect and deny with the new people
5. Repeat

You are manipulative exactly like a very young child throwing a tantrum is. You demand a cookie and an asspat and when you get them, you're angry that you didn't get two cookies and a blowjob. And yes I know you will only use people getting exasperated with you to reinforce what you already believe. Your true nature is extremely selfish, extremely entitled, and extremely narcissistic. All that woe is me is just the mask you wear. Continue changing nothing see where it gets you