Debate TES regulars about why the site's userbase had a political shift

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The Ugly One dijo:
He hasn't directed ICE agents to be nearly violent enough to libtard terrorists.
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So nothing about pardoning the ex-president convicted trafficking 400 tons of coke or the multiple people who bribed him, or all the pay-for-play access he accused everyone else of doing that he was going to drain the swamp and stop, or all the rural hospitals closing because of federal cuts or the silly boondoggle battleship that will never be made and is a waste of time..,

Ok!
 
Duke-Diggler dijo:
You don't care if your orange pedo is a child rapist,
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He's not.

Duke-Diggler dijo:
or that he is bombing random countries
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He's not

Duke-Diggler dijo:
and making the world hate us.
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And yet, the narco boats and illegal crossings stopped

Duke-Diggler dijo:
You don't even care if he's trampling on the constitution and destroying free speech.
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He isn't.

Now, here's the weird thing. I remember 15 years ago having real debates with liberals online about things like health care and the war in Iraq. I mean real debates, with facts and statistics and theory and everything. But something changed. Maybe it was because Obama was so disappointing. Maybe it's because the liberal worldview kept running afoul of reality. But something changed, and now all you guys do is make shit up and lie, and if one lie doesn't end the discussion, you just ramp it up with increasingly loud and retarded lies.

Example:

Duke-Diggler dijo:
I don't think I have seen a leftist candidate who is known for raping kids yet.
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Now, I know that you know Ashley Biden's diary was real. I know you know Bill Clinton spent far more time with Epstein, and I know that you know that Trump socially cut Epstein off once he got wind of something fishy with the guy.

I also know you won't admit any of that and will pretend Trump is somehow Epstein's #1 guy. Why do you do this? My best guess is that by being aggressively dishonest, it gets right-wingers to go away. If they go away in exasperation, this feels enough like winning that it gives you an emotional satisfaction similar to being right. But I'm not sure. At some point, literally making things up gave you a bigger dopamine hit than arguing for any kind of coherent worldview, and this happened across the left-libtard spectrum.

But of course, pretending not to know things, rendering discussion impossible, isn't much of a long term play.
 
General Patton dijo:
Not gonna lie, I kind of want to know what @Blewberry Nausea has to say about the above post, for no reason at all, lol.
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The world is impossible if you want to only vote for good people. No one becomes a world leader being good. No one becomes a billionaire being good. You can not vote and just let people decide for you but that is still a decision anyway so unless you wanna just quit society and go live in the mountains you are going to support some type of monster. I can’t get people to rise up and overthrow these assholes so unless you want me to pray harder for a solution where society is run by a bunch of kiddie fuckers and ultra rich ultra powerful oligarchs who fear no repercussions I really don’t know what else to do here.

Most seem to have decided to put the blinders on and act like because some of the accusations are pretty bare evidence wise they must all be fake. But I read Ivana’s testimony. I read the dude’s book and seen his whole demeanor my whole life. I know what kind of narcissistic asshole he is.
 
Blewberry Nausea dijo:
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The world is impossible if you want to only vote for good people. No one becomes a world leader being good. No one becomes a billionaire being good. You can not vote and just let people decide for you but that is still a decision anyway so unless you wanna just quit society and go live in the mountains you are going to support some type of monster. I can’t get people to rise up and overthrow these assholes so unless you want me to pray harder for a solution where society is run by a bunch of kiddie fuckers and ultra rich ultra powerful oligarchs who fear no repercussions I really don’t know what else to do here.

Most seem to have decided to put the blinders on and act like because some of the accusations are pretty bare evidence wise they must all be fake. But I read Ivana’s testimony. I read the dude’s book and seen his whole demeanor my whole life. I know what kind of narcissistic asshole he is.
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Yeah, we have a lot in common. I definitely understand and agree with most of your points. You really can't do anything when it comes to the wealthy, and you really can't be wealthy without doing something horrible or screwing people over. Even if the rich person is good.
 
The Ugly One dijo:
Now, here's the weird thing. I remember 15 years ago having real debates with liberals online about things like health care and the war in Iraq. I mean real debates, with facts and statistics and theory and everything. But something changed. Maybe it was because Obama was so disappointing. Maybe it's because the liberal worldview kept running afoul of reality. But something changed, and now all you guys do is make shit up and lie, and if one lie doesn't end the discussion, you just ramp it up with increasingly loud and retarded lies.
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You really need to learn how to lie better. This is getting really sad.

I remember back in the bush years where any criticism of the Iraq war will label you a "terrorist" or "against the troops" no matter how much bullshit lies they spew, from "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction", to "Saddam was behind 9/11" to "If we leave iraq now, they'll follow us home." We have to deal with several years worth of utter horseshit coming from the right wing warmongers about how the war in iraq and afghanistan is a "good idea", only for it to be an unmitigated disaster.

You rightoids lied back then, and you're lying now.

The reason why you're not having anymore "real debates" is that you're not even looking for a """debate""". NOTHING you say is ever a good faith argument. You lie, obfuscate and project your faults onto the other side and screech when people are tired of your bullshit and no longer engage with you.

You can deny all you want about Trump constantly going to epstein's plane, even after he claims to "cut ties with him", or the fact that Trump is known to creep on underage girls while hosting a teen modeling agency, the fact that Trump constantly tries to censor the epstein files, and the fact that trump is mentioned in the epstein emails WAY MORE times than clinton or any other """left winger""". It's not going to change the fact that you're supporting a criminal pedophile that is the Ethan Ralph of presidents.

Now be a good goy and donate more money to Israel and the Epstein Memorial Ballroom.
 
Blewberry Nausea dijo:
I mean, very beautiful places to see just not worth the danger.
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I had the benefit of seeing a Romanian barter with a Mexican vendor once and it was a sight to behold.
Fishmalk Observer dijo:
I like to suck orange balls
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Tell us more!
MazonLabs Recruitment Rep dijo:
...godDAMN this thread ensures I'll be renewing my CC when the time comes.

Had no idea my existence pissed so many people off. :o
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who are you?
 
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