All of the arrests that I've seen mentioned on there (aside from Digibro's) were from subhumans who were either caught with real cp or preying on children. Also, when I say exposed, I am referring to them being outed as pedos in general, not arrested. There are plenty of instances of lolipedos going mask off and admitting to wanting real children who are not in jail unfortunately. But now I'm curious, just how many lolicons need to be outed as pedos before you're willing to admit that there is connection between the two?
You pose a difficult question which unfortunately doesn't have a simple yes or no answer, I will need to address it in a somewhat lengthy manner. This is mostly in the context of what i've seen in the Blue Archive community.
I am reminded that a few months ago there was a whole debacle about some guy using an emoji combination which contained a heart, a blood drop, and another heart. They called themselves "Enlightened Lolicons". I don't know how far you've read in the whole LoliSho defense force thread but they should have some additional information as well. The gist of it is that they were what you'd call MAPs (rebranded pedophiles) trying to rebrand themselves again. I distinctively remember pretty much everyone in the Blue Archive community calling out these individuals and warning everyone to not associate with them. I'll attach a few screenshots.
Why is this relevant? It's an example of what i said before, that there is no unified "lolicon community". They argue, they agree on a few things, they hold diametrically opposed views on others, you get it. Within the Blue Archive community however it seems that the consensus is that when it comes lolicon, trying to reach out to anything outside of 2D is prohibited, and if you even tangentially start advocating for it, you're out. Here's another screenshot, this time from a guy complaining about being kicked from the Blue Archive community. I had to do a double take when I first read it because I was asking myself "Is this guy saying lolicon is pedophilia and that in itself is ok because he's a pedophile?" Turns out, yes. He was a pedophile, presenting himself as a lolicon, advocating for and promoting pedophilia. He had embraced the whole lolicon = pedophilia idea but had reached the most insane conclusion possible.
And personally I believe that this is the key distinction between a lolicon and a pedophile. Lolicons tend to draw a hard line between 2d and real life, whereas for pedophiles there exists no such line. Now i'm not saying lolicons are completely innocent, i'm sure they know that what they do isn't entirely socially acceptable, but they try to keep themselves in check, ensuring that nobody steps too far, or cut them off entirely if they do.
I do believe there is a connection between lolicon and pedophilia. You could consider the former to be the gateway drug that leads to the latter, just like it's argued every weed smoker started with tobacco first. However, just like not every tobacco smoker ends up smoking weed, it is also my belief that not everyone that starts with lolicon ends up becoming a pedophile. The connection between the two however is clear and I don't believe anyone seriously denies it.
Now, as for making lolicon illegal. That in itself is an enormous legal challenge for any government. Not because it goes against the 1st amendment, but because the US Supreme Court ruled in Griswold v. Connecticut that US citizen have an inalienable right to privacy, implied in the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 9th and 14th Amendments. The EU also has a similar law, Articles 7 and 8 of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, as well as the UN's Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The reason why CSEM is illegal is because there is, by definition, no ethical way to produce it, it requires abuse or exploitation of a minor. Lolicon, instances of traced art aside, requires little more than skill and the means of drawing.
What does this mean in the digital age? That every device capable of rendering graphics would need to have a backdoor installed and every interaction would need to be closely monitored, either by a human or AI, to ensure that what's being created or displayed isn't lolicon. You would need to create a digital panopticon the likes of which have never existed before, and trust the same government that has abused its authority for decades to respect your privacy in everything else but this thing. And once the panopticon is up and running, who knows what else will become illegal, should the government so decide?
This is not possible in the current legal framework. What is possible is to halt its importation and proliferation, which is what the current existing laws do. Private entities aren't beholden to these laws, which is why when Null says no Lolicon on Kiwifarms, those who cry about censorship have no leg to stand on. His site, his rules. This is what i've been arguing about. Not that Lolicon should be normalized, but that criminalizing it requires the abolition of so many of the government's constraints that the consequences could be catastrophic for many other things down the line.
I expect this to be negrated and recrive replies from people who focus on one specific thing and not the overall picture. I'm trying to keep this within the word limit. As for Chibi, I don't keep up with him because I think he goes out of his way to get into fights then cries for help like a victim. Last I heard, his gf cheated on him with his best friend and he almost committed suicide.
