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Especially since half the sites I check say Andrea had red hair, and you fucking know what that means in modern Hollywood.

They're a bunch of dyslexic racists.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

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When you're the only Son whose death was put to a vote.

I mean, I tried playing Arkham Knight and I can see why people thought he was annoying because he is.

The problem with WW is that they lean too much on feminism. She can have events that aren't shoving "WOMAN" everywhere. Have Circe do something big that can escalate and boom! Instant classic! Instead, we had "Amazons Attack" and it barely featured her (for the best, really but still). She is always treated as if she were a feminist mouthpiece instead o a hero!

She is a character no one can seem to figure out fully. The clash between Greek Pantheon, and Feminist characters, along with the randos leads to a disjointed rogues that has no real theme or consistency. One minute she is fighting literal Gods, the next its some tard in a blue snowman suit. It often feels like she is trying to ape off of more defined heroes since her own rogues rarely get to amount to anything.

Yeah, she's more of a symbol than a character, which makes her a very flat character overall. I'm pretty sure the reason why people like her has more to do with her actresses than the character herself. I guess she's like Gandalf where her personality stats are maxxed out, so she ends up being a better supporting character in other stories rather than the lead. Even in the only good movie she's in, Chris Pine is the one with actual charisma and stake in the story. She follows along and beats up a bunch of German kids and schoolteachers in uniform.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

@Basic Blond Boy

In general, Hollywood comes across as having contempt whenever they adapt anything. That or the need to “fix” what the established fanbase likes*. Comics or animated have an added feeling that Hollywood doesn’t respect other mediums and are embarrassed that they have to lower themselves and adapt whatever. To the point of directors and writers getting angry if the Actors read the source material (LoTR is the exception… well it was).

I don’t think it’s over correction. I think it’s fundamentally not caring about the product anymore. Either social engineering loans, Hollywood accounting, sheer size of these companies, or whatever. I think the people green lighting don’t give a shit. Success doesn’t matter for the execs, they’ll set someone else up to take the heat. The clique’s that control Hollywood directing and writing are also typically the failed scions of wealthy people or industry cum dumpsters. So you’ll get some retard angry they have to write children’s media or disposable media for people they hate.

*Alan Moore had that faggy mentality that you can’t give the audience what they want. I believe it infected American comics. Contempt for your audience

 

[That Chris Guy]

Lynda Carter in the 70s as well, but yes. WW really struggled to have much of anything to her name, a lot of it due to aversion to female heroes, but also, she lacked much to really build off of from comics. She never had a major story or arc like Batman, Superman or the Titans did. Hell even the Flash and Green Lantern have things like Flashpoint and Geoff John’s runs.

She is a character no one can seem to figure out fully. The clash between Greek Pantheon, and Feminist characters, along with the randos leads to a disjointed rogues that has no real theme or consistency. One minute she is fighting literal Gods, the next its some tard in a blue snowman suit. It often feels like she is trying to ape off of more defined heroes since her own rogues rarely get to amount to anything.

Greek gods isn't the worst rogues gallery, but I've yet to see any of her villains stand out in a way that mattered, not that I've followed any DC comics as of late.

Wonder Woman's problem is twofold. Firstly, her writers are inconsistently jumping between writing her as a womanly woman (the best kind), or as a Xena who has to be gay since strong straight women don't exist. The other two characters haven't been shackled to this kind of baggage, whereas Wonder Woman has had to face close association with bondage for decadres and gay iconography more recently. Supes and Bats have rigidly defined personalities, but is Wonder Woman a compassionate third wheel or a takes-no-fucks butch Amazon?

Secondly, Wonder Woman has plenty of attractive competition in superheroines and femme fatal types. Catwoman, Black Canary, Batgirl and Starfire for example, but it absolutely isn't limited to DC. Storm, Jean Grey, Black Widow, Rogue, Wasp, the list goes on. Why be a strong Greek girl when you can fly around and control the weather? Or have the power of the cosmos at your fingertips?

 

[Lion of Yehuda]

Greek gods isn't the worst rogues gallery, but I've yet to see any of her villains stand out in a way that mattered, not that I've followed any DC comics as of late.

Wonder Woman's problem is twofold. Firstly, her writers are inconsistently jumping between writing her as a womanly woman (the best kind), or as a Xena who has to be gay since strong straight women don't exist. The other two characters haven't been shackled to this kind of baggage, whereas Wonder Woman has had to face close association with bondage for decadres and gay iconography more recently. Supes and Bats have rigidly defined personalities, but is Wonder Woman a compassionate third wheel or a takes-no-fucks butch Amazon?

Secondly, Wonder Woman has plenty of attractive competition in superheroines and femme fatal types. Catwoman, Black Canary, Batgirl and Starfire for example, but it absolutely isn't limited to DC. Storm, Jean Grey, Black Widow, Rogue, Wasp, the list goes on. Why be a strong Greek girl when you can fly around and control the weather? Or have the power of the cosmos at your fingertips?

I think I'd prefer the strong Greek girl over all that.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

You know, once they get WB, Paramount should make DC oriented channels on Pluto TV and maybe Paramount Plus, like one with the cartoons and another with the movies.

I have a feeling the DC cartoons are going to be airing on Nickelodeon soon.

From the wrong company but...

 

[Incecticyder]

Yeah, she's more of a symbol than a character, which makes her a very flat character overall. I'm pretty sure the reason why people like her has more to do with her actresses than the character herself.

That too but I will put another hypothesis into the mix. In the WW movie, Diana was learning. She was fighting against enemies with weapons she never even imagined, met with experiences she couldn't have though of and saw world that had changed since her predecessors last saw it. As long as she learns, I think that she can be fresh and likeable.

Too many times she is written as a girlboss or a Mary Sue where she is obnoxious. Also, the Amazons are written as either too perfect or too evil.

I guess she's like Gandalf where her personality stats are maxxed out, so she ends up being a better supporting character in other stories rather than the lead.

I don't think she has too great a cast for what she is. Superman has Ma and Pa and the Daily Planet. Batman has the Bat Family, Commissioner Gordon and Selina Kyle. What does WW have? Etta Candy? The fat chick meant to make the rest look prettier? Give me a break. By the way, whenever they don't writer as the teacher that teaches everyone, they write her as the person that knows nothing. Which leads too...

Even in the only good movie she's in, Chris Pine is the one with actual charisma and stake in the story. She follows along and beats up a bunch of German kids and schoolteachers in uniform.

The need to keep giving her guides. She is the eternal outsider that has to be taught about "Man's World". She needs a way to be a guide too.

Overall, WW is either the condescending feminist teacher that has to teach men how to not rape women 24/7 or be guided by a man in a world that largely is alien to her. Imo, what she is missing is apprentices. Not just the Wonder Girls. Actual sidekicks that are taught by her the things she learned. Bring a few Amazons from Paradise Island and have them learn while fighting bad guys. That would be best.

Wonder Woman's problem is twofold. Firstly, her writers are inconsistently jumping between writing her as a womanly woman (the best kind), or as a Xena who has to be gay since strong straight women don't exist.

I do not have a problem with WW's sexuality (not liking women when that is the only thing you have is unrealistic) but she can be feminine and strong. She can rip a monster to shreds in the morning and bake a cake for a party in the afternoon.

The other two characters haven't been shackled to this kind of baggage, whereas Wonder Woman has had to face close association with bondage and gay iconography more recently. Supes and Bats have rigidly defined personalities, but is Wonder Woman a compassionate third wheel or a takes-no-fucks butch Amazon?

She can marry the two characterizations. She shouldn't be butch but she comes from a culture of warriors. She can be compassionate but also firm when she needs to be. Like a loving mother who can put a misbehaving child in time out.

Secondly, Wonder Woman has plenty of attractive competition in superheroines. Catwoman, Black Canary, Batgirl and Starfire for example, but it absolutely isn't limited to DC. Storm, Jean Grey, Black Widow, Rogue, Wasp, the list goes on. Why be a strong Greek girl when you can fly around and control the weather? Or have the power of the cosmos at your fingertips?

I think that she needs a new wardrobe. Also, she might need to learn new, interesting tricks.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

I mean, I tried playing Arkham Knight and I can see why people thought he was annoying because he is.

"I'M noT LikE The OTheR VilLAins, bRUce! I KnoW How YOu tHInk!" *Proceeds to do every villain cliche in the book and get his ass beat*

Joker's real last laugh was not finishing Jason's whiny ass off.

 

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