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I played a short campaign like this once and I really liked it actually. Our characters were trapped in a sort of limbo dimension where death wasn't permanent, but came at a cost to our overarching goal. Every time we died, the bad guy's macguffin got bigger and the endgame got tougher. I'm sure a lot of it was smoke and mirrors, but adding something like that to the table for CR -- where the characters are the brand and you can't consistently throw them out to add some danger to the mix -- would be a good idea. Hell, just any kind of personal consequence would be a little bit better than the way they do it now, where it's a 6+ hour combat against one large enemy the whole group can gang up on while they overact about how totally dangerous the battle is whenever they lose 5 hit points.

Time was you could enjoy exploring fictional settings and genres without explicitly endorsing every kind of negative element that setting would establish for the fake world in which it took place. Since we live in the age of inclusion = endorsement you can't have that anymore.
I knew a guy who was an absolute master at this. He'd put up dilemmas, tough choices, give us more shit we needed to get done than we had time for, force us to prioritize, make sacrifices. There'd be npc companions, cities, larger overarching goals, personal projects, all that could end up hanging by a thread. It was a lot of fun.

I would prefer you not call me out like this ever again, thanks.
That did hit me a little bit as well.
 
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I hate Erika Ishii. I don’t trust anyone who’s that bubbly. They’re either faking it for deceptive reasons or they’re brain damaged and in either case I’m not allowing them into my home, discussing investments with them, or sitting with them while they operate a motor vehicle. I’d like to thank Critical Role for giving me the perfect excuse for skipping however many of the next episodes in which she appears.
 
I knew a guy who was an absolute master at this. He'd put up dilemmas, tough choices, give us more shit we needed to get done than we had time for, force us to prioritize, make sacrifices. There'd be npc companions, cities, larger overarching goals, personal projects, all that could end up hanging by a thread. It was a lot of fun.

He was an Old School GM then I see.
 
time for GM tips with Satine Phoenix and Jamison Stone (not pictured)!
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generally you want to pay and credit artists and writers for your third-party D&D material. or your non-D&D RPG inspired by somebody else's album. you should probably not berate a tattoo artist for being "unprofessional" when you're asking for the same contract he gave Post Malone. it's probably a bad idea to have variations on "I'm very disappointed in you and your unprofessional behavior" as your catch-phrase, especially when you have been hired to do interviews at a convention and then treat the people who hired you like poorly-treated employees.

man there is a lot going on here. a guy who used to be on CR (Brian Foster) did a twelve-hour stream about it and set up a website with links to twitter threads. here's a blog post summarizing the drama (archive):

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Accusations Of Bullying And Blacklisting Surround Dungeons & Dragons Creator Couple​

CW: Allegations of manipulation, emotional abuse

TTRPG content creators Satine Phoenix (former Community Manager for D&D) and her husband, Jamison Stone, were at the center of controversy this week when new accusations arose on twitter about their treatment of contracted freelancers, co-workers, and their fellow members of the TTRPG community. The two have worked with some of the biggest stars in the hobby including Critical Role’s Matt Mercer, Krystina Arielle, and Luke Gygax.
It began when tattoo artist and D&D fan Chad Rowe started a thread on June 8th detailing his professional encounters with the husband and wife duo, particularly Stone. He had been employed to work on the couple, including three days of work on Stone. After mentioning his previous work involved contracts (Rowe famously has done work on Post Malone), Stone became intrigued by the idea and wanted to set one up after the fact. That began a long back-and-forth where Rowe fielded calls and questions from both Phoenix and Stone, and in his words felt “incredibly insulted and boardline abused” by the two allegedly using their apparent fame to try to coerce him to follow their instructions.


It was never my intention to release this experience because I did not want to make my footprint in this industry this way. But in light of two dangerous people threatening and slandering some of my closest friends . It’s time I share my experience… a thread … pic.twitter.com/DvOhp8yBnh
— chadrowetattoos (@nerdytattooer) June 8, 2022

News travels fast on TTRPG twitter, especially with creators as prolific and connected as these. Soon others were sharing stories. Writer and game designer Jessica Marcrum shared screenshots from interactions surrounding her work on Sirens: Battle of the Bards, a 5e campaign and setting book which raised almost $300,000 earlier this year. There, Jamison seemed to act cagey around questions of freelancer payment when asked by Marcrum and other writers, later placing them on a “blacklist” and threatening their livelihoods over “unprofessional behavior.”

Chad's not the only one. Jamison gaslit and bullied us on Sirens: Battle of the Bards for asking to be paid after we were told to invoice by one of the other project leads (Rick Heinz). We eventually were paid…most of us less than we initially invoiced for, but it's done. https://t.co/pIJOs6nkQr pic.twitter.com/57DqA9Y3XX
— angrynerdgirl (@Miss_Jess03) June 8, 2022

This was backed up by the project’s writing lead Pat Edwards, as well as writer Crystal M. Another writer shared a similar experience working on Stone’s Red Opera campaign.

I believe every word of Chad’s post. This is nearly identical to my own experience. It was the most awful working environment. Jamison Stone repeatedly threatened & berated myself and other freelancers. I had never felt more taken advantage of in my life. https://t.co/O8T0OnQq1A
— A Scribe Called Pat (@ThePatEdwards) June 8, 2022

Freelancer Ray Jenkins went further, declaring his experience on the project “a nightmare” that served as an “ego trip” for the creators who made him feel like he should be “THANKFUL for the opportunity to work with a ‘D&D Luminary’ and Apotheosis.”

I’ve been going back and forth on whether or not to comment on this. But, ‘silence aids the aggressor’ is ringing in my mind. I’m nobody in the TTRPG space. I have a small stream and put out some STV books a few people liked. /1 https://t.co/503vGjyw1O
— Ray Jenkins (@qualthis) June 8, 2022

Even Elisa Teague a.k.a GeekyPinup, who has worked with Satine on multiple projects, stated that she is as yet unpaid for her work on Sirens.

I’m not dodging anything. I support @nerdytattooer & the creatives who have come forward. I’ve also not been paid for writing on Sirens, I backed out of Satine’s Quest & had my own personal attacks by him that I tried to put behind me until all this came to my attention yesterday
— Elisa Teague (@GeekyPinup) June 9, 2022

A Gaming Power Couple?​

Satine Phoenix has been a staple of the D&D scene for over a decade thanks to her work on Geek & Sundry, The Sirens actual play show, and her work with Wizards of the Coast as the Community Manager for D&D and as an on-stream personality. Jamison Stone is a fitness guru and game designer who married Phoenix at this year’s GaryCon. Both live in Colorado. Satine is the main force behind Gilding Light, a storytelling studio based in LA, while both run Stone’s Apotheosis Studios, which published Sirens: Battle of the Bards, The Red Opera, and other publications. Phoenix and Stone were married at this year’s GaryCon in a streamed ceremony featuring other TTRPG streaming creators and officiated by Luke Gygax, son of D&D creator Gary Gygax.

The two also started a fitness brand StonePhoenix as well as Satine’s Quest, a sort of combination luxury vacation and game convention where groups of Dungeons & Dragons fans can play with famous DM’s like Phoenix, Stone, Eberron creator Keith Baker and Jason Charles Miller of The Sirens.

One of the DM’s on a recent Satine’s Quest Cruise, Jason Azevedo of Realmsmith, posted his own reply to Chad Rowe’s thread. In his statement, he mentioned attempts at grifting, abuse of employees, and gaslighting of organizers and guests up to and including Phoenix herself (an allegation against Stone also made by Rowe). One of the organizers of D3atSea (a similar concept to Satine’s Quest where you play D&D on a boat) accused the couple of trying to oust him from events and shut down D3 to eliminate the competition.

Thank you @nerdytattooer for coming forward. This behavior has to end and has no place in our industry. https://t.co/TeBlIf05fn pic.twitter.com/50buwUUBnL
— RealmSmith Origins (@realmsmithtv) June 9, 2022

More stories began to come out of Phoenix and Stone’s actions and demeanor at conventions and within the space, of a sense of entitlement and celebrity that was covered by an outwardly loving and positive persona. They’ve also been connected to other problematic creators in the scene like Zak Sabbath, who Phoenix disavowed in the wake of his own allegations.
In one detailed thread, two content creators went through their time working the couple as on-air talent at PAX West. They describe a long list of demands by the couple (including refusal to wear any shirt that wasn’t black and sleeveless), allegations of unprofessional behavior, manipulative behavior, and mistreatment that allegedly led to vendors offering the creators (who were paying Stone and Phoenix for their time) swag and snacks out of the belief that they were the more famous couple’s beleaguered assistants.

The first I saw of this was when @kmdemat called me earlier today to tell me. We both read through it, and it rings true to us based on our own experiences with Satine Phoenix & Jamison Stone. This is our (long) story.

Throughout, K=Katie and T=Me.https://t.co/gQicSAVeJQ
— Tristan (@TheTriscuit) June 10, 2022

Fallout​

Satine herself has made no comment, but Jamison put out a statement on his Facebook wherein he expressed apologies to Rowe and his wife Satine. He stated that his actions stem from “Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder” and that he has been working with a therapist. It makes no mention of the accusations being leveled by freelancers.



So far, four of the ten events to be hosted at this weekend’s Origins Game Fair by Stone, Phoenix, or both have been canceled: Inclusivity in TTRPGs, Indie TTRPG Publishing & Kickstarter, and both sessions of the Tentacles in the Deep game. Stone has also been removed from the convention’s Special Guest list. Ashley Benson, Marketing, Social Media Guru, Executive Assistant at Apotheosis Studios, announced her resignation from the company as well.


The Fandomentals has reached out to Apotheosis and Gilding Light, as well as Satine Phoenix, for comment but have not had a response yet.

UPDATE​

The Red Opera co-creator Pat Edwards has come forward with a detailed account of his experience working with Stone on the project, including allegations of threatening language and the holding hostage of owed royalties by Apotheosis.

#TTRPG Experiences I had in co-creating The Red Opera, focusing on how the creatives were mistreated & under-credited:

Did y’all know The Red Opera is an adaption? There’s this great band called DiAmorte, fronted by Drake Meffesta. The Red Opera is an album & stage show… 1/
— A Scribe Called Pat (@ThePatEdwards) June 10, 2022

UPDATE​

On Friday night, there were mass shakeups at both Apotheosis Studios and Phoenix’s Gilding Light collaborative studio. At Apotheosis, Jamison Stone has resigned from his position as CEO as of last night, with the studio’s Marketing, Social Media Guru, and Executive Assistant Ashley Benson also resigning.

I didn't think I'd need to make a post, but as an fyi: I quit Apotheosis Studios yesterday morning.

I am seeing my professional obligations for Origins to their end.

And then a long rest.
— Bashley Origins Game Fair (@MitigatedText) June 9, 2022

Gilding Light, Satine’s storytelling collaborative network in LA, has also had multiple people leave the group (these positions were unpaid). These include the head moderator and Community Manager of the GL Discord, Producers DC Lasair and and Greyghostgirl, and the group’s social media manager Kurt Venetis.

It is with a heavy and confused heart, that I announce I am leaving Gilding Light and no longer the Social Media Manager for it. So much has happened so much I didn’t know was happening. I can’t in good conscious continue to support it and it’s owners.
— KuVenet the Horrible Alchemist(He/Him) (@KurtVenetis) June 11, 2022

Talent on the group’s affiliated shows expressed their disappointment, with Action Pact DM Tony Bork shopping his show to other channels and Chrystal Fier (who played on Inspectres with DC and Lori) leaving as well.

I will no longer be streaming on or associated with Gildinglight, Satine Phoenix, or Apotheosis Studios. https://t.co/WB3tHXV8iq
— Crystal Fier but storm season (@Crystal_Fier) June 11, 2022

We’ve also gotten new allegations from a few different sources. Islands of Sina Una co-director and designer HTTPaladin alleges in a tweet that his work on a stream to promote a Kickstarter by Stone and Phoenix ended up unpaid.

There were three or four streams done entirely so that they would promote that Kickstarter campaign. After checking in with another player and the DM: Yeah, we got given the same treatment. https://t.co/r2GSkUo9kD
— HTTPaladin #BLM #StopAsianHate (@HTTPaladin) June 10, 2022

Voice Actress and game designer Liisa Lee came forward as well, alleging that during her time working with Phoenix and a previous partner Ruty Rutenberg she was used for free labor, robbed of credit, and allegedly defamed by Phoenix in retaliation to her refusal to go along with it.

Fall 2016 Ruty pinged me on Twitter. Asked me to be on the show, we started talking gaming, writing & he asked me to meet up about writing with him, moding & being a guest on Maze Arcana.⁰
First meeting Dec. 9th 2016, at the Pikey, /10
— Liisa Lee (@Liisabelle) June 11, 2022

Frequent collaborator Keith Baker also spoke up in support of individuals coming forward with allegations.

These stories are heartbreaking. TTRPGs are about collaboration. They allow us to create safe spaces and build the worlds we want to see. But it begins with the creators and gamemasters, and we need to be better than this. https://t.co/odIPUeK9dQ
— Keith Baker (@HellcowKeith) June 10, 2022

As this is a developing story, this article will be updated as new details come to light.

Images via respective owners.

Thanks to Robert Reeve for his help in sourcing for this article.

is having sponsors for your wedding tacky? seems like it!
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throwing her husband under the bus to avoid talking about how she was apparently a total cunt to a bunch of people too.
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imagine getting called out on twitter by this guy: travis mcelroy.jpg
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ProJared: feeling relieved, no longer the most controversial Critical Role and Acq Inc. adjacent D&D streamer. smirk: earned.
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Wil Wheaton: people are taking a quick break from telling him to shut up. this is as good as it gets.
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Joe Manga-lemoncello: doesn't care, casts magic missile on Sofia Vergara every night. why would he care?
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some gamergate eceleb: "sweet now's my chance".
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Yeah, from what I've seen, either your DM is some boring ex-military guy making stories about space marines shooting demons, or he's a decent writer but he paints his nails black and dresses like an old lesbian.
Ex-military are both the best DM's and the best players, if you enjoy a tactical game where sound decision-making and plausible strategies are a thing. My games with ex-mil players are insanely taut, engaging sessions where Tucker's Kobolds are the norm, because I know they'll be able to handle me maxing out what a smart, motivated enemy is capable of.

Actors and writers are the best if you want a really engaging story told amidst the probability science and tactical math.

If you're REALLY lucky you get somebody who's worn both hats.
 
ProJared: feeling relieved, no longer the most controversial Critical Role and Acq Inc. adjacent D&D streamer. smirk: earned.
He just keeps on winning.

Something has always seemed off about Satine to me, though I suppose that's not exactly a talent since she's prancing around with so many red flags stapled to her body it's a miracle she hasn't been trampled by a raging bull at some point in her life. It's always nice to see these snakes get devoured by the culture they helped cultivate.
 
>donate to crit roll kickstarter
>over the course of 24hrs it makes a billion dollars
>"awesome! my favourite podcast will be getting an animated series! what could possibly go wrong?"
>they sell the rights to amazon
>their twitch stats leak, turns out critical roll rakes in millions of dollars a year (in donations alone)
>crowd funded project now only available to those with an amazon prime subscription (first season's free tho!!1!)
-mfw they reasonably couldve funded their own animated series
-mfw i realise that i just fundraised a show for amazon prime


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Critical Roll's neat but he shit they've pulled with their show is ridiculous lmao. I remember seeing some people voice their displeasure that Jeff Bezos snatched it, though most people didn't seem to care. Imagine paying a multi-billion dollar corporation to make your show, and then having to pay even more money for the privilege of watching it :story:
 
>donate to crit roll kickstarter
>over the course of 24hrs it makes a billion dollars
>"awesome! my favourite podcast will be getting an animated series! what could possibly go wrong?"
>they sell the rights to amazon
>their twitch stats leak, turns out critical roll rakes in millions of dollars a year (in donations alone)
>crowd funded project now only available to those with an amazon prime subscription (first season's free tho!!1!)
-mfw they reasonably couldve funded their own animated series
-mfw i realise that i just fundraised a show for amazon prime


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Critical Roll's neat but he shit they've pulled with their show is ridiculous lmao. I remember seeing some people voice their displeasure that Jeff Bezos snatched it, though most people didn't seem to care. Imagine paying a multi-billion dollar corporation to make your show, and then having to pay even more money for the privilege of watching it :story:
Is this how Mafia works?
 
>donate to crit roll kickstarter
>over the course of 24hrs it makes a billion dollars
>"awesome! my favourite podcast will be getting an animated series! what could possibly go wrong?"
>they sell the rights to amazon
>their twitch stats leak, turns out critical roll rakes in millions of dollars a year (in donations alone)
>crowd funded project now only available to those with an amazon prime subscription (first season's free tho!!1!)
-mfw they reasonably couldve funded their own animated series
-mfw i realise that i just fundraised a show for amazon prime


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Critical Roll's neat but he shit they've pulled with their show is ridiculous lmao. I remember seeing some people voice their displeasure that Jeff Bezos snatched it, though most people didn't seem to care. Imagine paying a multi-billion dollar corporation to make your show, and then having to pay even more money for the privilege of watching it :story:
And I though the Epic Store shenanigans was bad. At least that one is free and gave you free games for the privilege of Chinese harvesting your data.
It also reminds me that some dev admitted to Kickstarter being mostly relegated as a hype machine/showing investors potential. I think actual good games produced from thay site can be counted on a single hand.
 
It also reminds me that some dev admitted to Kickstarter being mostly relegated as a hype machine/showing investors potential. I think actual good games produced from thay site can be counted on a single hand.
I’ve seen a lot of crowdfunding projects be about a certain aspect of the project (a book wants to do a publishing run, a webcomic wants to do a print collection, a movie is ready to go into post production, that sort of thing) and it’s pretty rare to see a crowdfunding pitch be featured/promoted/seen by a lot or make a lot if the party behind it isn’t already established (same with Patreon), and I’d say a lot of scams and fails come from wanting to do something crowdfund the entire enterprise from start to finish, and a lot of those seem to be video games, even with those people that are established enough to have Internet things be their day job.

CR reached a place where they could make money hand over fist if they asked for it. And now look at the results.
 
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It's so hilarious to me that they went with some inexperienced nigress to do Exandria Unlimited when Liam O' Brien is right there, am experienced DM in his own right, and the only person Matt said he'd feel comfortable handing the reins to for a season if that was what it took.

Shame about his skin tone. Might have been able to keep 80 percent of the views if they went with someone who knew what a fucking wisdom saving throw is for.
 
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