Cowboy Bebop Thread - Live-Action Adaptation cancelled after one season (it was shit)

[BrunoMattei]

I will say one big problem with making any new Bebop is you couldn't replicate the "look" of the original, it'd be too clean and digital and lack the texture of the cel animation of the original, so maybe it is best left well enough alone.

Still, I do feel like there was potentially more story to be told with Faye and there's also the chance to finally show her naked.

Again, I have to bring up The Woman Called Fujiko Mine, something like that is what I picture.

It wouldn't look the same but not everything needs to keep going. It's better to end on a high note. Too many times now has something come back and it sucks.

(Insert Zombie Simpsons reference here)

 

[Dom Cruise]

It wouldn't look the same but not everything needs to keep going. It's better to end on a high note. Too many times now has something come back and it sucks.

(Insert Zombie Simpsons reference here)

It's true, but when something is brought back and fucking nails it, it's awesome and that's what makes the risk worth taking.

Case in point, Blade Runner 2049, that is the gold standard for continuing something after decades and doing it well, so it can be done.

 

[BrunoMattei]

It's true, but when something is brought back and fucking nails it, it's awesome and that's what makes the risk worth taking.

Case in point, Blade Runner 2049, that is the gold standard for continuing something after decades and doing it well, so it can be done.

I think Blade Runner 2049 is the exception to the rule though.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I think Blade Runner 2049 is the exception to the rule though.

Sadly it is, but at least it's been proven it's possible, right?

Of course a big part of what made BR 2049 work was the original screen writer for Blade Runner was involved, you've got to have some of the talent that made something work in the first place return, otherwise it's probably going to wind up just feeling like fan fiction as we've seen too many times.

In the case of Bebop I am of course assuming anything new would be directly from Shinichiro Watanabe, if he feels like the story is done though then it's done, it's best to have original talent behind something otherwise there isn't much point, that's why the FLCL sequels suffered.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I will say one big problem with making any new Bebop is you couldn't replicate the "look" of the original, it'd be too clean and digital and lack the texture of the cel animation of the original, so maybe it is best left well enough alone.

If they had gone through with making that movie many years ago, they still would've used actual film, so it would've had that grittiness to it. Missed opportunity.

 

[Miller]

I will say one big problem with making any new Bebop is you couldn't replicate the "look" of the original, it'd be too clean and digital and lack the texture of the cel animation of the original, so maybe it is best left well enough alone.

For a live-action show? I disagree, BSG and SGU have proven that with the right people behind the camera, you can build a set of a ship that looks and feels like it's been through hell, even in the age of HD and 4K meme.
That said, it's a Neflix show so they won't do that, it will probably look like an Apple Store like the Enterprise from the JJ-Trek movies.

 

[Cooking Mama]

Sadly it is, but at least it's been proven it's possible, right?

Of course a big part of what made BR 2049 work was the original screen writer for Blade Runner was involved, you've got to have some of the talent that made something work in the first place return, otherwise it's probably going to wind up just feeling like fan fiction as we've seen too many times.

In the case of Bebop I am of course assuming anything new would be directly from Shinichiro Watanabe, if he feels like the story is done though then it's done, it's best to have original talent behind something otherwise there isn't much point, that's why the FLCL sequels suffered.

Augh, this just reminded me of the possible blade runner anime series they were going to do with Shinichiro Watanabe.

 

[NyQuilninja]

footage from the first episiode

 

[Dom Cruise]

For a live-action show? I disagree, BSG and SGU have proven that with the right people behind the camera, you can build a set of a ship that looks and feels like it's been through hell, even in the age of HD and 4K meme.
That said, it's a Neflix show so they won't do that, it will probably look like an Apple Store like the Enterprise from the JJ-Trek movies.

I was talking about anime, if they made a new Cowboy Bebop anime it'd be with today's digital cel technology instead of the late 90s painted cel animation and thus would look very different than the original.

A good example of that is comparing Big O season 1 with season 2 from the same studio and season 1 looks way better.

Now of course digital cel animation has come a long way since 2003 so it'd look a lot better than Big O season 2 did, but it wouldn't look the same and thus wouldn't really "feel" the same.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Noir would have been a perfect live action show....its my favorite anime. But they had to cancel it...

I'm just glad it was Sam Raimi and not Luc Besson

 

[Guts Gets Some]

I didn't think the original Cowboy Bebop was that great, so why would I ever care about this?

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Sorry, but I just won't be able to take a black Jet serious.

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YO SPIKE
DINNER BE READY

Asian guy doesn't even seem that bad to play Spike, but (as mentioned before) looks way too old. Keep in mind that Spike "died" at 27.
Also, are there any news about Ed? Is she gonna be some trans boy?

Ahahahaha, it's like they went out of their way to find people who specifically looked nothing like any of the characters.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

I will say one big problem with making any new Bebop is you couldn't replicate the "look" of the original, it'd be too clean and digital and lack the texture of the cel animation of the original, so maybe it is best left well enough alone.

Still, I do feel like there was potentially more story to be told with Faye and there's also the chance to finally show her naked.

Again, I have to bring up The Woman Called Fujiko Mine, something like that is what I picture.

If they were to make anything new, just adapt some of the manga's stories into a movie or something.

footage from the first episiode
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rWeO1q0gHJE

I thought it was more like this since only one of them got hurt while filming:

 

[Dom Cruise]

I didn't think the original Cowboy Bebop was that great, so why would I ever care about this?



Ahahahaha, it's like they went out of their way to find people who specifically looked nothing like any of the characters.

Not that great!?

If they were to make anything new, just adapt some of the manga's stories into a movie or something.

They could definitely do a "lost stories" thing like the movie was, taking place before the end of the TV series.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

Not that great!?

Yeah. I watched it on Adult Swim back in the day (same as everyone), and I will admit it was damn fun that first time, but I got almost nothing out of it in subsequent viewings, and honestly.... it is nowhere near deserving as "GREATEST ANIME EVAR" as it's constantly labeled as. At least to me.
I feel people tend to mistake production value, style, and other less important elements as the ends themselves, and what I mean with this is, I imagine Cowboy Bebop with exactly the same script and writing, only as a book; without any of its animation, music, or acting; and, as just its straight story, I really don't think it'd have the reputation it has today.
For my favorite stuff, the story would be always be the focal point, and in that regard, I can list at least 30 different series not only better than Bebop, but far more worthy of best ever.

It's a fun series, stylish, but hardly the best thing ever. It's a 7/10 for me.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Yeah. I watched it on Adult Swim back in the day (same as everyone), and I will admit it was damn fun that first time, but I got almost nothing out of it in subsequent viewings, and honestly.... it is nowhere near deserving as "GREATEST ANIME EVAR" as it's constantly labeled as. At least to me.
I feel people tend to mistake production value, style, and other less important elements as the ends themselves, and I can list 30 different series not only better than Bebop, but far more worthy of best ever.

It's a fun series, stylish, but hardly the best thing ever. It's a 7/10 for me.

Can't say I agree with you there, last time I watched it was in 2012 and it still blew me away.

About the only real criticism I can think of is there are a few meh episodes, they're not all great, though I don't think there's any flat out bad episodes.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

Can't say I agree with you there, last time I watched it was in 2012 and it still blew me away.

About the only real criticism I can think of is there are a few meh episodes, they're not all great, though I don't think there's any flat out bad episodes.

You don't have to agree. Obviously we like different things in our favorite series. For me though, Bebop wasn't that special apart from an initial fun factor and really great production value.

 

[Trilby]

You don't have to agree. Obviously we like different things in our favorite series. For me though, Bebop wasn't that special apart from an initial fun factor and really great production value.

I suppose it comes down to how often the surface elements are taken in full and not the meat (or insides) of said production, and no doubt Cowboy Bebop tends to have a lot of surface elements that shadow over it's less meaty story. I felt that way watching it years ago too. It also had the advantage of coming out during the late 90's when that transition to digital animation was starting to creep into many anime in Japan and because of what Evangelion started, that approach to story was being adapted as well.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Ironic that Jet was voiced by a black guy in the dub

 

[Travoltron]

John Cho's face looks like something a racist Golden Age comic book artist would draw come to life.

I agree that Cowboy Bebop is overrated. This is because for some reason (American) normies latched onto it and declared it "greatest ever". But it's basically just a ripoff of Lupin III and Space Adventure Cobra, two anime that are vastly superior. It's criminal that hardly anyone knows about Cobra, as Buchi Terasawa is a genius.

These are the same people that thought Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was so groundbreaking, when actuality those kind of wuxia wire-fu flicks had been a thing since at least the mid 80s.

 

[Uranus Pink]

Main plot line with Spike, Vicious and Julia is generic AF for a film noir type series. İmho only thing keeping the series from the trash heap of mediocrity in the U.S. was the stand alone episodes and better than average dubbing.