🪦 Deceased Chloe Sagal / John Paul Neumann - Self-Immolated to Protest The US Mental Health System. Currently Being Exploited by her "Allies".

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To be completely honest, as unhinged as Chloe was, I do feel pity for her. She was too far gone and the mental health system in America is atrocious, so doubtful it could have helped her in any meaningful capacity. From what I can gather, a lot of Chloe's issues were of her own making (in large part due to her mental illness), but it's still sad in some respects.

Troons owe the world an apology for selling the quackery that no matter what a person's actual problems are, irreversible surgery is the solution 100% of the time no matter what actual doctors say. There was also more than a touch of paranoia preventing her from actually seeking out the help she needed.

Also, as reprehensible as Brianna Wu is on many levels, this wasn't Wu's fault, either.
 
I never really followed Chloe or her drama, but wow. Sounds like another shed princess situation where a deeply mentally ill person finally succumbs to their illness. From the sounds of it she was fucked up, but at least not as abhorrent as someone like Laurelai Bailey or Sarah Nyberg.

F. Should've been one of the sex offenders instead.
 
Uh no. She was messy and prone to tantrums and destroying stuff, but she never sexually assaulted anyone. I dated her for two years and it got kind of awful near the end. Awful enough where I realized the support I could provide was not enough for her and she needed more. I still think she is one of the most brilliant people I have ever had the pleasure of sharing time with, but it was just buried under all this neurosis that all the love I had for her couldn't penetrate.

Mock me all you want, but I did genuinely love her.

FWIW, I'm sorry for your loss.

We're all of us sorry for your loss.
 
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I think there's three things we should all take away from this.

1. Chloe's death is a tragic reminder as to the importance of mental health care reform in the USA.
This is someone who needed help for years and didn't get it.

2. Chloe did more legitimate activism for what she actually cared about with this one action than most of the Rat King will do in their entire lives.

3. Chloe was fucking hardcore. Jesus.

You forgot one:

4. No matter how or why, Kiwifarms will always be mentioned when a Troon kills themselves.
 
I think there's three things we should all take away from this.

1. Chloe's death is a tragic reminder as to the importance of mental health care reform in the USA.
This is someone who needed help for years and didn't get it.

2. Chloe did more legitimate activism for what she actually cared about with this one action than most of the Rat King will do in their entire lives.

3. Chloe was fucking hardcore. Jesus.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chloe...l-health-treatment.44667/page-10#post-3487453
 
I mentioned this in the A&H thread, but whatever happened to Sage? Did he abandon Our Lady of the Bic and go back to Florida or was he still kicking around couch surfing with Chloe?
 
are we sure the manifesto isnt hidden somewhere? it seems really old school to not leave your final words on facebook or something.

chole loved to make alt accounts, there could be a blog out there that would give us more insight, lost in the internet aether

It's said he distributed some flyers, or at least read out from a large bunch of papers, before turning roastie. Did anyone save a copy?
 
I posted this in the death thread but probably belongs here.

Chloe started a GFM for money to travel somewhere unnamed supposedly getting medical care.

$0 of $675 goal

Medical care where I am at is inadaquate to handle and deal with the issues I struggle with. I need to go to the place that does have it. I need a passport and money for travel. idk what i'm going to do about the medical expenses but i just want to get there first. Please help, I am literally at the end

(Edit and someone posted an attached SS of this on previous page, just saw it. )

I do wonder what magic forgiven land she thought she was going to get to for a cure at $675. Going to assume Vancouver Canada given her location in the PNW.
 
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If someone's ranting about mental health services and homelessness immediately prior to setting themselves on fire, there's a good chance that's actually what they're "protesting" rather than cyberbowling.
 
Chloe Sagal had pretty hair. That's about all I can add to the conversation right now. RIP.
 
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