Can anger and resentment really be helped by therapy? - Or woudl a couple visits to a gun range be more therapeutic?

therapy is pure cope.
like, literally. the point of it is to make you cope with things instead of trying to resist them. buckbreak you into submission so you accept your lot in life instead of trying to fight it.

but shooting guns won't do anything about your anger either (unless you shoot the person you're angry at)

Respectfully, this indicates you don't know what actual therapy is. What you are describing is bad therapy, or some retarded wordplay about pathological 'cope' best left in infantile memes.

You cope with bad weather by putting on a coat. You cope with unseasoned food with salt. You cope with censorship and a broken world with Kiwi Farms.

There is nothing wrong with feeling better with therapy, and certainly nothing wrong with being able to function better, which is instrumental to fighting and resisting things. Therapy is not "accept a shitty live and take pills or recite mantras", therapy is dealing with your shit so you're able to go fight things.

No, you don't have anger just go away, same with shitty memories, unless someone invents such a therapy in which case I'd happily just ignore my life before 30, but that's me.

Given the shit I've been through, I can absolutely say that it helps someone resist and fight.
 
The most important questions regarding if therapy will help is:

1) Do you know the source of your anger and resentment?

2) Do you understand why you are angry and resentful?

3) Is the anger and resentment you feel healthy and appropriate or maladaptive and inappropriate?

If you can answer "Yes" to 1 & 2 and "healthy and appropriate" to 3, therapy will do you no good.

If you answer "No" to either 1 or 2 or "maladaptive and inappropriate" to 3, therapy will help because it will help you understand why you feel this way and what to do about it in a healthy way.

Therapy is only good for people that don't understand the "where" and "why" of how they feel a certain way, and to help them deal with that if how they handle it is from a personal or social perspective is considered "inappropriate".

So my shit is basically disenfranchisement and alienation. Nobody wants damaged goods, and the incredible apathy toward literally torturing children is a deafening silence. Therapy won't un-do being ignored and ditched and forgotten because I was surrounded by people who wanted something from me instead of wanting me. Therapy won't make people care, won't change the past, won't take anyone to court, or a gallows.

Bluntly, a lot of people have told me to go to therapy so that I would be able to hide what I have gone through from them because they don't care.

Actual community involvement - and recreating them, at this point - is crucial. Maladaptivity cannot be divorced from a social context. A lot of the problems we have are because half the population isn't allowed to be hurt or need help or show weakness. The rest of the problems we have are because the half that is allowed that has to pay for it with their bodies and submission.

Real therapy helps equip you to deal with this shitty reality, but it doesn't make your problems go away - and if it did, how fucked up would it be that therapy is basically symptom hiding? Then again, isn't that what psychiatric hospitals are? Haldol, bondage, seclusion, condescension, meds that make you feel like a zombie, terror, and claustrophobia so you never act out?

I think 'normies' could stand a bit of therapy to deal with people who took the hits for them so they could go through life without dragging around memories they'd blast out of their brains without a second thought, but I'm apparently the radical here.
 
So my shit is basically disenfranchisement and alienation. Nobody wants damaged goods, and the incredible apathy toward literally torturing children is a deafening silence. Therapy won't un-do being ignored and ditched and forgotten because I was surrounded by people who wanted something from me instead of wanting me. Therapy won't make people care, won't change the past, won't take anyone to court, or a gallows.

Bluntly, a lot of people have told me to go to therapy so that I would be able to hide what I have gone through from them because they don't care.

Actual community involvement - and recreating them, at this point - is crucial. Maladaptivity cannot be divorced from a social context. A lot of the problems we have are because half the population isn't allowed to be hurt or need help or show weakness. The rest of the problems we have are because the half that is allowed that has to pay for it with their bodies and submission.

Real therapy helps equip you to deal with this shitty reality, but it doesn't make your problems go away - and if it did, how fucked up would it be that therapy is basically symptom hiding? Then again, isn't that what psychiatric hospitals are? Haldol, bondage, seclusion, condescension, meds that make you feel like a zombie, terror, and claustrophobia so you never act out?

I think 'normies' could stand a bit of therapy to deal with people who took the hits for them so they could go through life without dragging around memories they'd blast out of their brains without a second thought, but I'm apparently the radical here.

In situations such as you mentioned, therapy can help people learn the tools that are needed to appropriately process trauma effectively and either move past it, or use the non-maladaptive defense mechanism of sublimation. Sublimation is taking the experience and energy involved in the negative shit and using it to effect change in the world around you and participate in activities that provide a benefit to others. Helping others can allow people to move past their own trauma.

The ultimate goal of therapy is to no longer allow what happened to impact your life in a negative way moving forward. Once that happens, you've succeeded.
 
The therapist is mostly there to coax people into talking until they talk out loud something they hadn't thought or admitted before. If you are an introspective person you do 90% of that by yourself. If you pray (not like a Papist's rosary, but actually praying) then that can be very similar to therapy too. But the therapist can still be useful because that's another human intelligence playing off your ideas.

I was, recently, very, very angry at my coworkers and bosses and had gotten to a point where I'd just given up on everything. It wasn't until I got a promotion that I actually felt okay but the (FREE) therapist I had access to was very helpful for coping in the meanwhile. I don't know that I would have paid for that shit.

I think it's often agreed now that when people beat on things and rage out loud it doesn't actually calm them down, doesn't "vent," it just trains the person to act that way. Like you're "rehearsing" being angry.
 
The "common knowledge" that modern psychiatric drugs are singularly powerful and scaaaaaaaaaaary is so strange when the ever-growing realization in the field (that pharmaceutical companies are loathe to admit) is that they do absolutely fuck-all in the majority of cases.
shit like SSRIs and adderall absolutely have serious effects on your brain chemistry, they alter your thought patterns and emotions in unnatural ways by fucking around wit some of the neurotransmitter molecules in your brain.
they might fail to solve the issue they were prescribed to treat, but they will still leave their mark on you in unpredictable ways.
 
Sublimation is taking the experience and energy involved in the negative shit and using it to effect change in the world around you and participate in activities that provide a benefit to others. Helping others can allow people to move past their own trauma.
I too approve of going on a murder spree to rid the world of pedophiles and groomers.
 
Why is it so fucking hard to tell people what abuse, especially ongoing from family or an institution - or torture - is like? Yes people are stupid faggots. I get it. People don't want to face it.

When presented with this forest, they go tree by tree saying it doesn't count. Bark ain't right. Too thick, too thin. Too far out in a clearing, so it's not really in the forest, it's by itself! But the forest is still fucking there, and just because that given idiot can't fucking grasp it, or they want to say that one particular thing, that broke someone, doesn't seem so bad when looked at out of context.

If I try to spell out "constant, oppressive dread, like a big wet blanket over you that weighs a ton, like someone was burying you in concrete" that seems to work better than something like "if you don't sit perfectly per their definition at all times and put your eyes where they demand you look you get beat up or thrown in the hole." If I do that, some faggot goes "posture's good for you!" or "pay attention hurr" or whatever else. If I completely lose my temper and scare them and say imagine that for a few years they either get it or just placate me.

If you try to just say "being humiliated every day destroys you as a person" people just glaze over. If you spell it out, people might try to care troll about constructive criticism or 'therapy'. So then you try to explain that being ripped to shreds by people you were tricked into trusting and admitting things to is bad, and they make a tardface. Or you shouldn't have trusted people and had perfect insight into a cult as a child.

If you try to explain how group mindfucks and being kept awake and having someone use exhaustion and humiliation and fear to break people is bad, people just give you a vacant expression. If you then explain how being made to stand on a chair while people shout "die" at you after 18 hours of mind games is traumatic, people just tard out again.

If I'm a fucking savant, tell me! But I don't see this as particularly insightful. How the fuck is it anything but bad to terrify a child, make them stand on a chair, beg to be allowed to live, and shout them down calling for their death until they fall out of it?

If you say "hey putting a sign around a girl's neck calling her a slut if she admits she's raped is bad, can you understand that?" most people finally get that being bad, at least. People do seem to grasp brutality and rape, more or less.

But then if you explain shit like "imagine being surrounded by people who copy your expressions and crowd in on you, and when you panic, and you will, they shove it in your face and repeat everything you say back" they think it's a joke. They don't understand the effect crowds can have on people. They don't understand how much worse it is on top of it all if you have to do it when it's someone else's turn and you're in the crowd. They don't seem to grasp guilt. But why would they? Humiliation to them is probably just something that gets their dicks hard.

What the fuck is wrong with most people? It's really hard to not want to throttle the average person for being so fucking dense.

I too approve of going on a murder spree to rid the world of pedophiles and groomers.

That would never end. That is a path of perpetual torment. In your ravenous hatred, you will find no peace.

Rip and fucking Tear.
 
The definition of forgiveness is essentially the act of pardoning an offender. In the Bible, the Greek word translated “forgiveness” literally means “to let go”, as when a person does not demand payment for a debt. Jesus used this comparison in his parable of the unmerciful slave (Matthew 18:23-35) as well as when he taught his followers to pray “Forgive us our sins, for we ourselves also forgive everyone who is in debt to us” (Luke 11:4).


The Bible teaches that unselfish love is the basis for true forgiveness, since “it keeps no record of wrongs” (1 Corinthians 13:5). Forgiving others means letting go of resentment and giving up any claim to be compensated for the hurt or loss we have suffered.
I started to feel peace for the first time in my life when I embraced forgiveness as a choice - not connected to my feelings or whether or not I could forget I was hurt, etc. It wasn't in connection with religion; I watched some videos online about how to let things go and I just tried. This eventually is one of the things that led me back to religion, though. I don't know if that works for everyone, but it really helped me. I still feel flare-ups of increased hostility and resentment and I start the process of acknowledgement again, but things are much better now.
 
I started to feel peace for the first time in my life when I embraced forgiveness as a choice - not connected to my feelings or whether or not I could forget I was hurt, etc. It wasn't in connection with religion; I watched some videos online about how to let things go and I just tried. This eventually is one of the things that led me back to religion, though. I don't know if that works for everyone, but it really helped me. I still feel flare-ups of increased hostility and resentment and I start the process of acknowledgement again, but things are much better now.

English having only a single word for love, not the nuance the Greeks had - unselfish love being 'agape' - is frustrating.

I know a lot of people that need to know someone loves them without thinking they're being hit on.
 
Man this hits close to home. This is still the major issue I deal with more than anything. Rumination will fuck up your life completely at a certain point. I wish I had an answer, but in all honesty if anyone did that actually worked this wouldn't be a thing anymore.
Here are the three solutions you've got.
Kill your narcissist mom, uncle bad touch, drunken father or whoever fucked you up and deal with the prison sentence.
Kill yourself to escape the pain of feeling mentally molested every second of every day (which honestly is the thing I lean closest to as a rational answer.
Or take the L and seethe your way through life and try to "live your best life" or do the christian faggotry of "forgive your enemy".

Biggest problem with killing your abusers is there's probably more than one, and you probably will not be able to do anywhere near the physical harm you did to them as they mentally did to you.
Problem with killing yourself is you're essentially giving your abusers one final victory which they might even be able to use as leverage against you even after death by virtue signalling or pretending they did cared. On one hand you're released from the hell of being trapped in your mind, but there's quite literally nothing else in exchange. It's the ultimate gambit of deciding whether you think you can ever live comfortably and change or preferring the total void of death.

I can only suggest two things that might realistically help.
We live in an age of cancelling people, where people can actively lose social credit fast. If you really want to, you can possibly make some people's lives hell if they did the proper amount of shit that could ruin them. Some people might think that's cowardly or troonish but my unpopular opinion is that if you had to go to uncle Alex's basement when you were seven or had truly awful parental figures, I don't see the real moral conundrum of their life being ruined. I don't have the same amount of sympathy for some people losing their jobs as say a guy saying gamer words online. That's a really big can of worms though and something you really have to think over and plan out if you end up going down that road.

But most importantly, objectively look at the people who did you harm and where they're at now. Take your bias out and really analyze where these people are and more importantly who these people are. A lot of people who really did the most harm to you probably are not in good places right now. And even if they have an okay standard of living they're still miserable. It's the hardest thing to do but I look at everyone who's hurt me the most in life and I honestly feel pity for them. They're either very close to death, have destroyed their bodies with their addictions, have lost all of their friends and/or are resented by everyone around them, or are too bitter and malignant to see the actual decent shit they have that they don't deserve. Maybe your story is different, but that's my experience.
Been at that for 20 years.

Still hate feeling fucking invisible because I'm unable to pretend I didn't see what I saw and people get intimidated by it.
Unironically my heart goes out to you. I understand where you're coming from. I've dealt with complete and total apathy and it's vile. But you can meet people who do care. I have a friend I can open up to who never makes me feel guilty for having emotions. It's a long process but there are people out there who you can meet that aren't complete NPCS.
The main thing you have to remind yourself of though, constantly, and I mean constantly is that it's not your fault. You have to accept that karma doesn't exist and sometimes the world is cruel. You have to take yourself out of the equation and just accept that horrible things happened to you for no reason and grieve that.
The girl who gets sold into sex trafficing when she's 12 doesn't deserve the shit that happened. A faithful husband doesn't "deserve" adultery. A woman doesn't "deserve" to be assaulted by a friend she trusts. It just happens. But especially the pain of a child. The abuse of a child is never justified.
The people who scapegoated, gaslighted you and made you a poison container might have been that same kid at one point. Doesn't justify it. But the best thing you can do is break the cycle of abuse even if it's the hardest thing for you to do. Don't end up like the pieces of shit that hurt you. Be there for people who are hurt. Win by not passing on the pain and accept that the things that happened to you are not your fault.
 
Don't end up like the pieces of shit that hurt you. Be there for people who are hurt.
Brah.

I published at 19. I've been deprogramming parents and getting phone calls at 2 am from sobbing people with a screaming kid in the background being thanked for making them snap out of it for years. It's incredibly hard to find someone who can 'get' it but, yeah, been there, done that.

It's worth doing, it helps, but you're still invisible to everyone else. And the families you pull out of hell ghost you.
 
Brah.

I published at 19. I've been deprogramming parents and getting phone calls at 2 am from sobbing people with a screaming kid in the background being thanked for making them snap out of it for years. It's incredibly hard to find someone who can 'get' it but, yeah, been there, done that.

It's worth doing, it helps, but you're still invisible to everyone else. And the families you pull out of hell ghost you.
That's why you don't try to be friends with your clients. It CAN work on occasion but you have to find people that are there for you. Sometimes they just pop up. Also you can't look at what you've accomplished and feel like in some way you're doing better? I'm not trying to gaslight you or anything but I would be very proud if I could manage to use all the anger and pain I've been through in order to be a helpful resource in most peoples' lives. You haven't OD'd or used shotgun mouthwash like most people in your situation, so that's something.
Are you doing better than the people who fucked you up?
 
That's why you don't try to be friends with your clients. It CAN work on occasion but you have to find people that are there for you. Sometimes they just pop up. Also you can't look at what you've accomplished and feel like in some way you're doing better? I'm not trying to gaslight you or anything but I would be very proud if I could manage to use all the anger and pain I've been through in order to be a helpful resource in most peoples' lives. You haven't OD'd or used shotgun mouthwash like most people in your situation, so that's something.
Are you doing better than the people who fucked you up?

I've stuck my neck out, put myself back through the hell I still barely remember except in emotional flashbacks and instantaneous glimpses to drag others out from it, had to be a secretive nigh-paranoid shit when doing so, gotten grey hairs, was told I was wasting my time by those I could share this with, and been an invisible victim who has to wear a mask around normies (fuck it, find a better word? tell me) for nearly 20 years.

But the point is no matter what I've done or survived I don't matter unless I dress up and play the LGTBLTBBQLMNOPRetard game, and even then it's only for assuming an identity of 'gay-adjacency' which is rewarded in a facile way, not because I saw hell in fifth grade and went back into it for others ever since.

It's hard to not want to call people lazy stupid cowards but, I mean, existing seems to trigger people if you actually walk a talk they can't handle even hearing about.

Fuck it I'm venting and I have a damn good reason to.

What I've learned from therapy is its easier to like strangers because familiarity breeds contempt

Lol this explains hookups. Some part of you gets wet, and someone clings to you for a few hours. They might even spend the night, but they don't stick around enough to disappoint you by not having a heart or a brain or a soul.
 
Did the therapist you saw diagnose you with anything? That will inform what kind of therapy would help most and possibly meds. It can be hard to find a good therapist but a good one that clicks with you is very valuable. Stick to evidence based therapies like CBT, ACT and DBT and avoid woo therapies like EMDR and psychoanalysis. Certain medications like mood stabilizers (Lamotrigine, Topamax) and Risperidal (autistic rage) can be helpful.
Going to the gun range is a good hobby for blowing off steam. Having hobbies is good for your mental health compared to ruminating or raging out inappropriately.
 
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