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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[A-Logato]

As for Burnham, this guy is a worse speaker than fucking Starmer. He speaks like a guy who works in an all-female HR group and is totally not gay. There have been rumours about him being a cuck, which I totally would not doubt.

"We picked a Northerner but not that type of Northerner"

 

[Otterly]

And what have you and the many others on here achieved by getting wound up about it?

I’ve spoken to people. Like I did with Covid.
For Covid, they couldn’t so easily dismiss me because of what I do for a living. For this, they can’t easily dismiss me because I’m a sane and sensible person otherwise.
What I’ve found is that an awful lot of people just need a few others around them for an idea to go from, ‘the government says I can’t say that’ to ‘well actually…’ it’s like the JKR effect with trannies . Some people you can’t paint as frothing loons. It’s quite a shock for people to start telling me I shouldn’t get my Covid info from FB, Karen, and then me tell them what i do for a living and they sort of quietly crumple up. Oh dear, really? Yes. Oh…
On Covid, I think I changed a lot of people’s minds by being calm and reasonable. Over this, i think I have too. I’m sure the security apparatus would rather catch people with a Molotov, but simply making an opinion acceptable to speak about will do more good.
Please stop with the calm down dear stuff. This is not the kind of audience it works on, you’ve been here long enough to know that via previous accounts.

was living alongside it. I moved. That was the only viable solution available to me.

It’s all still there though, and it’ll find where you are soon too. Will you move again? And again? How many times? Eventually there’ll be an immigrant barracks by your place, and it’ll be your kids getting leered at as they walk to school. Maybe RICU do mates rates?

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

He speaks like a guy who works in an all-female HR group and is totally not gay.

What was it he said when he got elected, Northern man-powher ? It was something like that. He thanked 'strong northern women' and fluffed them up. Note that 'Northern' means Manchester laptop-class cat ladies who treat migrants like their pets and not farm women who go out in the pissing rain to turn a sheep the right-way-up when its fallen into a ditch, again, or mothers in post industrial towns trying to keep their kids unmolested by foreigners, or British nurses trying to get home on the bus after shift without being leered at. He appeals to a middle class that is desparately trying to keep its aspirational status and jobs while the country sinks lower. He's already been accused of calling himself the first female Labour MP and is having to deny it.

As for his social housing plan, it will never happen for a few reasons;

5. Environment Agency and other NGOs/Quangos will oppose building at every opportunity because their sole function is to oppose building. See the attempts at knocking down a derelict shopping centre in Peckham.
6. Locals are going to protest outside social housing estates that are going to be built for (whether real or perceived) or are housing asylum seekers/illegal immigrants. The Epping protests 'worked', as the Epping hotel was closed for migrants, so people will keep protesting (ignore that it just kicked the can down the road, the epping protests 'worked' for the locals). MPs and Councillors are also going to oppose any attempts at housing migrants, no matter how Green (Crowborough) or Lib Dem (Linton on Ouse) it is.

I won't go on another nationalism sperg but 'city nationalism' (''Scouse not English'', Manchesterism, etc) is a sign of trouble and division. 'Manchesterism' only exists because Manchester needed something to stop it imploding into a rage blackhole after the Arena bombings. People cling to city-identities when they are denied nationalist identities. Bigging up Manchester, while ignoring the rest of the northern cities, and Wales, and Scotland, and even NI, is fucking ridiculous. This northern twee will not last.

 

[SchizoDaemon]

I’ve spoken to people. Like I did with Covid.

I've said this on other threads that are related. Often you can talk someone through something. They will agree with you. Then a few weeks later it is as if the conversation never happened. I can't convince my own family members that the OSA isn't going to do what it says it will do, and they know I've been programming computers since I was 8 years old. I don't bother talking to anyone about this outside of places like here because I think it is a waste of time.

It’s all still there though, and it’ll find where you are soon too. Will you move again? And again? How many times?

As I said, I understand the limitation of my own power and influence, which is exactly fuck all. What do you want me to do exactly? What was I supposed to do?

You tell me what my viable alternative was?

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I can't convince my own family members that the OSA isn't going to do what it says it will do, and they know I've been programming computers since I was 8 years old. I don't bother talking to anyone about this outside of places like here because I think it is a waste of time.

I can wrangle nightmare goggles onto my mothers face with some mild effort, but they slip off almost instantly, because she works for a womens charity. So she gets re-brainwashed when she goes into work. My brother is hilariously racist though, so that's neat.

 

[Otterly]

don't bother talking to anyone about this outside of places like here because I think it is a waste of time.

Well you should. You have to do it a very specific way though. Just ‘x will do y so you’re wrong’ gets you nowhere. Humans will not accept they were wrong or fooled. You’ve got to lead them there gently. For Covid I started with a sort of ‘ooooh corruption they’re all so corrupt aren’t they look at that councillor giving his mates PPE contracts.’ Everyone can accept politicians are corrupt, that’s your in.
Then you geeeently express surprise at something and you leave it and the next time you see them they saw that in the paper and they think they came up with it first.
Four visits later they are on board and have cancelled their series of shots and evangelised to all their mates that they have done so. You can do something similar with thevOSA. Find something tiny, that you will be right about an d that will happen and crucially, will not cause cognitive dissonance. Mention it. Mention it when it happens. And then next thing… and the next. Eventually it’s ’oh Schizodaemon was right, I’m going to start listening to her.’

 

[BongoMongo]

If only people spent as much time looking into what's to be done, as they do asking, what can I do.

I'm not going to discuss what I do and our plans to stay safe but there's options aplenty out there. However, I will say, find like minded people in real life and get involved with your local community. Find a church (not CofE or Quaker, they hate white people. Personally, we're LDS and it's less about God, and more about having a community of like minded people for us. Yes, some of their beliefs are off the wall,but we find our local ward insanely welcoming and kind) and get involved in that.

Know what's going on where you live. Teach your kids about safety and vet their friends. Homeschool if you can do.

Know your rights when it comes to the law and the police.

Don't be obvious or get caught. Don't be overtly racist or spiteful. I have a Nigerian family living near me and I'm nice as pie to them. But I resent even seeing them and long for the day we cage them and send them back. They'd never know this though because I'm civil and polite to their faces.

There's a disheartening tendency on here to believe all groups against the BS going on are infiltrated with glowies. Cynicism is a defense mechanism and all but it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

 

[KeeKeeCooch]

@teriyakiburns Do you have any thoughts or anyone for that matter on the new defense budget released by Starmer? Apparently Jarvis wanted more but typical Rachel wouldn't allow it due to welfare.

Thanks you, Rachel.

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[SchizoDaemon]

Well you should.

No, because it's not really doing anything. I spent the last week actually doing something. I don't want to talk much about it because if I talk too much about it, I won't actually do it. Unlike some of the suggestions on here, it is 100% legal.

You have to do it a very specific way though. Just ‘x will do y so you’re wrong’ gets you nowhere. Humans will not accept they were wrong or fooled. You’ve got to lead them there gently. For Covid I started with a sort of ‘ooooh corruption they’re all so corrupt aren’t they look at that councillor giving his mates PPE contracts.’ Everyone can accept politicians are corrupt, that’s your in.

If you are a medical professional it is very different than if you are a code monkey.

Then you geeeently express surprise at something and you leave it and the next time you see them they saw that in the paper and they think they came up with it first.
Four visits later they are on board and have cancelled their series of shots and evangelised to all their mates that they have done so. You can do something similar with thevOSA. Find something tiny, that you will be right about an d that will happen and crucially, will not cause cognitive dissonance. Mention it. Mention it when it happens. And then next thing… and the next. Eventually it’s ’oh Schizodaemon was right, I’m going to start listening to her.’

I've already told you why it is often a waste of time. The TV box says one thing, with a man in a suit on TV saying the opposite, mind wiped like in MIB. My take is that if they cannot be convinced with evidence (often indisputable), there is very little to be done to convince them.

You also never answered my question. What was I supposed to do (as you criticised my course of action)?

 

[teriyakiburns]

@teriyakiburns Do you have any thoughts or anyone for that matter on the new defense budget released by Starmer? Apparently Jarvis wanted more but typical Rachel wouldn't allow it due to welfare.

It's the typical half-measure revenge act I'd expect from Starmer. He's deliberately designed it to cause as much damage to other parts of the budget as possible. He's not doing anything to change how procurement works (nor will Jarvis), so it doesn't matter how much money he throws into the system. We'll end up with the vast majority of the budget blown on projects that never materialise, with what little we do get from it being massively over budget, underperforming, and on such a small scale as to be functionally useless. I doubt these new drone ships will ever get off the drawing board.

 

[tack så mycket]

The act says because Ahmed arrived in the UK before 1973 and lived in the country for at least five years before his deportation was considered, his removal is barred.

Ohhhhh riiiight. Yeah actually, when you put it like that, it's fair enough isn't it? I mean he did rape loads of kids BUT he'd been here for 5 years, so it's obvious that he should stay, really.

I wonder if the impotent shoulder-shrugging cunts who say shit like this out loud are aware that laws are just bits of paper, and paper can be burnt. Sometimes, when I see decisions like this, I feel like someone behind the scenes is an accelerationist with the goal of shredding human rights legislation in the UK. It's just too infuriating to not be rage bait.

 

[SchizoDaemon]

I wonder if the impotent shoulder-shrugging cunts who say shit like this out loud are aware that laws are just bits of paper, and paper can be burnt.

People are slaves to the legislation. They often don't question it.
I've seen this both professionally and personally.

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

It's the typical half-measure revenge act I'd expect from Starmer. He's deliberately designed it to cause as much damage to other parts of the budget as possible. He's not doing anything to change how procurement works (nor will Jarvis), so it doesn't matter how much money he throws into the system. We'll end up with the vast majority of the budget blown on projects that never materialise, with what little we do get from it being massively over budget, underperforming, and on such a small scale as to be functionally useless. I doubt these new drone ships will ever get off the drawing board.

I think you can draw some pretty valid comparisons between Ajax and Armata. At least a few Ajax’s got delivered in the end.

They’ve been cawing about increasing drone usage to make up for the fall in manpower for years now but it never seems like they get close to doing anything about it.

In my uninformed opinion it seems like they’d be better spending the time and money making joining the Forces a more enticing prospect. Increase in soldiers wages, better accommodation, better personal and family benefits. That makes sense to me at least.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

In my uninformed opinion it seems like they’d be better spending the time and money making joining the Forces a more enticing prospect. Increase in soldiers wages, better accommodation, better personal and family benefits. That makes sense to me at least.

People still want to join the army. Even with the dogshit pay, I signed back up as a revervist and it'll take aprox 16 months to actually get it all sorted. It's such an absurd delay in getting in, that even the people that want to join, just get ground away by time.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Why is Starmer still doing stuff? Why is he still on my telly saying things? I thought he fucked off.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Why is Starmer still doing stuff? Why is he still on my telly saying things? I thought he fucked off.

He's the shit you just can't flush.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Why is Starmer still doing stuff? Why is he still on my telly saying things? I thought he fucked off.

He's staying around until the successor is chosen. We've probably got him until september.

 

[THE DREADED CONE]

People still want to join the army. Even with the dogshit pay, I signed back up as a revervist and it'll take aprox 16 months to actually get it all sorted. It's such an absurd delay in getting in, that even the people that want to join, just get ground away by time.

Why would you do this, if shit really hits the fan and you get called up you're either going to be contributing to the satanic meat grinder of the drone warfare trenches on godforsaken foreign soil, or contributing to oppression against your own people when they protest against raping and murdering shitskins. Wanting a nice pension is one thing but there are less morally bankrupt ways to do it.

 

[Clem Fandango]

He's staying around until the successor is chosen. We've probably got him until september.

Well that sucks. At least Parliament are on their little school holidays for most of that, so hopefully I won't have to see his gay crying face or hear his nasal whiny voice too often.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Why would you do this, if shit really hits the fan and you get called up you're either going to be contributing to the satanic meat grinder of the drone warfare trenches on godforsaken foreign soil, or contributing to oppression against your own people when they protest against raping and murdering shitskins. Wanting a nice pension is one thing but there are less morally bankrupt ways to do it.

Because I can just leave? I can get called up regardless because of prior service, this just means I can shoot guns on a weekend and get cash in hand for it.