UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

KeeKeeCooch · 21 de Jun, 2026

Morethanabitfoolish dijo:
I've noticed whenever you think someone is from outside of London/the South

Eva isn't British/English. I wouldn't be surprised if 20% of the people who post here aren't natives and are just larpers due to cope and seethe.

Heinrich Maneuver · 21 de Jun, 2026

North/South conflict, and inter-generational conflict to an extent, is all designed to divide us. Remember who the real enemy is.

According to Guido, Burnham's economic advisor Miatta Fahnbulleh, a 'Quasi-Marxist' and fan of high taxes, recommends; (X)

Burnham's economic architect recommends, among other things:
•A wealth tax and yet another windfall tax on oil and gas.
•Mass nationalisation e.g. of land, transport, and energy.
•Extending national insurance to investment income.
•A cap on interest rates and charges on every form of consumer credit.
•Hiking capital gains tax to income tax levels.
•Hiking divided tax to income tax levels.
•Abolition of the upper earnings limit for national insurance.
•Huge expansion of the benefits system including a “minimum income guarantee” paid to everyone apart from the rich.
•Nationalisation of banks and creation of new “green” banks with taxpayer funds.
•Block on private banks lending to anyone with a “large amount of greenhouse gas emissions” and “penalisation of banks that provide too many carbon-intensive loans.“
•Forced sale of existing businesses to employees.
•A tripling of the stamp duty surcharge to 9% for multiple homeowners and an increase to 6% for non-residents.

Article (X)

Team Burnham briefed Bloomberg and the FT last night that Andy is “being advised” by ex-OBR chairman Richard Hughes, former Bank of England chief economist Andy Haldane, former Goldman Sachs chief economist Jim O’Neill, and Carys Roberts, the former executive director at the IPPR think tank. This was meant to calm the gilt market…

Co-conspirators may remember Roberts, who spent some time in the No10 policy unit before exiting last year. Her personal mission is to increase taxes on employees and on wealth. She co-wrote a report which advocated for a radical proposal to combine employee NICs and income tax, apply them to all incomes on an annual basis, and apply a gradually rising marginal tax rate as income rises. A massive radical increase on “working people”…

Roberts’ passion is taxation of savers through the abolition of capital gains and dividend taxes in order to tax them as highly as income. Her report also called for the replacement of inheritance tax with a whole-life gift tax with a lifetime allowance of around £125,000 – effectively a gargantuan enlargement of confiscation of family inheritance. She personally supported John McDonnell’s plans to hike wealth taxes as well as to mandatorily reduce working hours. Here are some other policies she supports:

Introduce an Alternative Minimum Corporation Tax as a backstop levied on multinationals’ UK sales, based on global profit-to-sales ratios.
Establish a Citizens’ Wealth Fund to pay every young person a £10,000 universal minimum inheritance at age 25.
Phase out and abolish R&D tax credits (except for SMEs under seven years old) and abolish the patent box.
Lower the threshold for the public register of people with significant control from 25% to 5% of shares or voting rights.

Zoe Billingham, the chair of IPPR North, is also advising Burnham – they all have the same ideas. Roberts additionally supports replacing business rates with a land value tax on all non-residential land, taxed on optimum use rather than current use. Burnham is a big fan of land value taxes which will hit the economy very hard – here’s an explainer…

Ex-minister Miatta Fahnbulleh led the capitalism-sceptic New Economics Foundation and is designing Burnham’s policies too. Any of these radical tax hikes will fail and Burnham will have to borrow more to fund his inflated spending commitments. Gilty as charged…

Another heatwave, more sectarian violence, an England v Ghana match, and a precarious leadership situation with zero trust in the police on either side... godspeed

SchizoDaemon · 21 de Jun, 2026

Sir Baz the Intolerant dijo:
It's the go to phrase upper-class, WASP Americans use to acknowledge someone's misfortune while simultaneously signalling that they could not give less of a fuck about it.

Oh ok, thanks for the correction. I've heard Rekieta and other cows say similar things while seething and assumed it was more of a passive-aggressive way to tell someone to rope themselves.

AssignedEva · 21 de Jun, 2026

Morethanabitfoolish dijo:
I've noticed whenever you think someone is from outside of London/the South the spiteful side of you shows. You like terms like "hole" or the like to refer to those regions, much like every individual that basically thinks those regions have it coming after being all but strip mined for everything of worth then cast aside after their resources were devoured in the industrial era and their populace devastated during the wars.

It's mostly a kneejerk. I travel a lot with work, and I find people feel very at ease slagging off London and telling me what a shithole it is. I think there are many wonderful places in England, and especially in the North. I never normally would be so rude as to insult someone's hometown - even when I'm in an actual shithole, like Crewe - but when people feel entitled to talk about London being shit, I give as good as I get.

KeeKeeCooch dijo:
Eva isn't British/English. I wouldn't be surprised if 20% of the people who post here aren't natives and are just larpers due to cope and seethe.

News to me! Would love to know where you think I'm from.

KeeKeeCooch · 21 de Jun, 2026

AssignedEva dijo:
News to me! Would love to know where you think I'm from.

The Royal London Hospital, where most sandniggers were born in the 90s.

K-Hole · 21 de Jun, 2026

KeeKeeCooch dijo:
I'm sure London can survive without having billions on money invested through illegal channels for once. The establishment has pretty much made London the control point of the UK. While the rest of the country falls to shit. Don't they say that if London was taken out of the picture, most of England would be below most US states? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Perhaps only somewhat related to your question -

Perhaps only somewhat related to other talking points brought up by others - Mining, Post-Industrial UK, relationship between North and South etc. etc. -

https://consciousnessofsheep.co.uk/2023/11/21/londons-falling/

London's Falling.

Seen from the perspective of energy-based economics, that, of course, is precisely what I said would happen:

“Blackpool, and towns like it, is precisely the post Neoliberal future that we were warned about back in the 1980s. The warning has come true. But worse is yet to come. Blackpool is not an anomaly; it is London’s future.”

Fast forward six years, and London – even formerly prosperous central London – is displaying all of the symptoms of decline which were so obvious in places like Blackpool a generation ago. And while it is tempting – and psychologically necessary – to blame Covid, the war in Ukraine, and even Brexit for the collapse of what was once Europe’s most valuable retail district, the roots go much deeper.

The UK’s antiquated system of local business rates is the primary reason why so many stores are closing. The system taxes businesses according to the value of the property they are in rather than their annual profits. And in central London, that can leave businesses with a bill for more than £100,000 just for being there. On top of that are the higher wages in London, along with increasingly high electricity prices.

Less obviously though, businesses are being drained by a profligate London authority which, like so many of the UK’s local authorities, has been permitted to rack-up huge debts while inventing ever more ways to fleece local businesses and households to pay for it all. Even this though, is merely the local government dimension of a far deeper surplus energy crisis.

The reason I was able to point to Blackpool as London’s future six years ago was not due to clairvoyance or astrology. Rather, it was due to an understanding of what must happen to an import-dependent economy in a debt-based financial system when the available surplus energy goes into reverse.

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Not sure how accurate this all is, anyway, the recent conversations reminded me of this post I just quoted and linked to, for some reason. Took me 15 minutes to find it. It was interesting to me, anyway.

TL;DR: London is the richest city in Europe. A lot of the rest of the UK (barring the University towns like Cambridge etc. ) are among the poorest areas in Europe.

EDIT:
Got this FT page to archive finally -

Is Britain really as poor as Mississippi?

The answer says much about the monopolarity of the UK’s economic geography

https://archive.is/NJnaD

Britons have mixed feelings about London. It’s the home of the metropolitan elite and sometimes seems more at home with New York than Newcastle, but it keeps Britain economically afloat. Not only in terms of the goods and services it produces but also in its higher tax revenues and fiscal transfers to poorer parts of the country.

There were fears that the capital would suffer more from Brexit than most regions, but thus far the opposite has been true. Exports of services have held up relatively well while trade in goods has cratered, and London’s economy is 4 per cent larger today than it was in 2019, bucking the broader national trend of stagnation or decline. London is the only one of the 10 regions in England and Wales to have grown in every quarter since the nadir of the pandemic recession in the second quarter of 2020, while three others — including the South East — have dipped into regional recessions in the past 12 months.

This is not to say the capital is in rude health — its status as the pre-eminent global financial hub is slipping away, and its productivity growth has been lagging behind that of the rest of the country for the past 15 years — but merely to highlight the double-edged sword Britain has ended up with.

Hannibalistique · 21 de Jun, 2026

K-Hole dijo:
Perhaps only somewhat related to your question -

Excluding Norway and including UK, I'm assuming this is a rather old study?

SchizoDaemon · 21 de Jun, 2026

AssignedEva dijo:
I never normally would be so rude as to insult someone's hometown - even when I'm in an actual shithole, like Crewe - but when people feel entitled to talk about London being shit, I give as good as I get.

I've lived in Crewe, and while it is pretty dire (Stoke-on-Trent is far worse, IMO). I had none of the issues I had when visiting London.

The problem with London is that if you come from rural England, where everyone for the most part is pleasant, everyone in London is rude and hostile, and the entire place seems to exist to shaft you. Londoners, for whatever reason, seem to be completely blind to this, and friends I have that live there kind of say, "Well, sure, you got shafted, so what?" not understanding that none of this shit happens outside of the M25.

That's why people say it is a shithole, because it is probably one of the few times they've had any really bad experiences. I've been to London many times and won't go anymore. It is too expensive and too much of a hassle, and I know I am either going to get fined or ticketed for something innocuous or have some shifty cunt follow me down the street trying to rob me (it has happened more than once).

the rat · 21 de Jun, 2026

SchizoDaemon dijo:
for whatever reason

You'd be constantly miserable too if you had to live relatively close to a railway that takes you to France.

UselessRubberKeyboard · 21 de Jun, 2026

K-Hole dijo:
Perhaps only somewhat related to other talking points brought up by others - Mining, Post-Industrial UK, relationship between North and South etc. etc

Perhaps it’s just the way things go, but it’s particularly tragic that places like Manchester and Sheffield are now some of the poorest in Europe, when they were previously the driver of the Industrial Revolution and a crucial backbone to British (and global) industry. Manchester in particular feels very lost, outside of the shiny glass and chrome of the city centre and all the students.

Speaking of students, I get the feeling quite a few towns and cities in the U.K. are only just about surviving due to the large amounts of students living there. This brings its own problems, though. Students might spend money, but they’re not ordinary residents - especially not foreign students, of which there seem to be more and more each year. They have no connection to the city and (mostly) no interest in ever making it a home. They take up homes that local families could live in, drive up rental prices, ruin swathes of the city when developers build yet more fucking student housing for them. They’re nomads and it doesn’t contribute to the culture of a city at all, certainly not if the city centre is full of student housing, student bars, student shops, etc etc. Where do the locals go? Their cities are now holiday camps for teenagers from other places, their homes likewise. Yet the money the teenagers spend is one of the few things keeping the local economy going. It’s a nasty bind to be in.

Not that I have a problem with universities and students themselves, but the effects it has on housing especially seems really bad, and I don’t see anyone in power sounding alarm bells over it.

SchizoDaemon dijo:
I've lived in Crewe, and while it is pretty dire (Stoke-on-Trent is far worse, IMO). I had none of the issues I had when visiting London.

I’ve also lived in Crewe and I loved it. It’s struggling, but it’s a real, genuine, no bullshit kind of place. We could do with more of those.

As a dirty notherner, London always seems interesting as there’s always something to do and somewhere to go. But it’s filthy. Like, really, disgustingly filthy. We joke about Birmingham and no bin collections, but even back in the 70s my recollections of London were bin bags piled up in the street. Things used to cost almost twice as much in London, although that’s not so much of thing now (and that’s not a positive). Despite the varied means of public transport in London, it takes forever to get anywhere and costs you way too much money to do so.

And then there’s the people. I’m a true and honest laydee (online, anyway) so I get less aggressive shit than a man, but back when I was younger especially, London was a fucking nightmare for blokes who couldn’t keep their hands to themselves. That hasn’t gotten any better, and the only difference I can see in the usual suspects is that they used to be Mediterranean looking, now they’re Asian, Arab or African. Yeah, white blokes do it too, but in London, my experience was it was always blokes of a more melanated shade. Guess that makes me a racist for noticing who’s leering over me or the school kids on the tube next to me. So be it.

There’s a shyster attitude in London that I hate. It feels like half the people there are clueless tourists, and the other half are after your money. You used to be able to go into pubs and have some interesting conversations with some interesting people, but now you need a new mortgage to go out drinking, and picnicking in the park just gets you approached by freaks begging. Why are there so many beggars in London? Why does no-one there have any fucking manners? It just feels unhealthy in every way.

Is this really the face we want to present to the world? Perhaps foreign tourists don’t see it, I dunno.

I’m currently in the ex-industrial norf, where even the kids are polite and say ‘excuse me’ before they take the piss out of you. Wouldn’t see that in Lahndahn.

And we have better football teams. And food.

teriyakiburns · 21 de Jun, 2026

UselessRubberKeyboard dijo:
Perhaps it’s just the way things go, but it’s particularly tragic that places like Manchester and Sheffield are now some of the poorest in Europe, when they were previously the driver of the Industrial Revolution and a crucial backbone to British (and global) industry. Manchester in particular feels very lost, outside of the shiny glass and chrome of the city centre and all the students.

I bang this drum relentlessly, but the reason the north is so dire and London so hated is because of Wilson, and Callaghan, and a near-century of social and economic engineering designed to transform Great Britain into an economic support framework for an international financial system centred on the City. London is the economic powerhouse of the country because successive governments have declared it must be so. Our industry has been moved abroad and rented back, and our education system reformed to empower the city as the sole driver of the British economy, because that is what those at the head of the table desired. Every government since the 60s has operated on the belief that Britain must be transformed away from manufacture and resource extraction, to a high-tech services-oriented economy, in order to participate in the global economic market as a unique provider of skilled services, with the City as the financial core.

There is, of course, a lot of historical foundation for the City to rest on. Insurance and banking has been London's lifeblood for centuries, so it's natural that anyone remotely connected to the City would seek to support and expand that role. London perceives the rest of the country as an adjunct to that activity; as a provider of goods and capital to power the financial services sector, and as a source of labour and resources, and more recently mere service provision, to maintain the financial underpinnings of the City's global activities. London's position as the economic engine of the UK is undeniable right now; the issue is not that it is so, but that it was deliberately engineered to be so. The belief that it's superior position is akin to a law of nature is the underlying problem. London's eminence is not inevitable and is not unassailable. It is artificial, and thus only maintained by direct intervention.

SchizoDaemon · 21 de Jun, 2026

UselessRubberKeyboard dijo:
I’ve also lived in Crewe and I loved it. It’s struggling, but it’s a real, genuine, no bullshit kind of place. We could do with more of those.

I was technically homeless about a decade ago and, at the time, was living out of my car/suitcase. I was staying at this like hostel/managed accommodation and spent almost all my time working 14 hours on this contract to make money. So my days were driving to Stoke, working, watching some TV on the laptop, and sleeping, and then rinse and repeat.

It is one of those in-between places. I got to witness some shoplifting when I was there. There was a small shopping-estate place with a KFC on the side. Thieves used to basically run into M&S or one of the other clothes shops, nick stuff, run through the KFC car park and then disappear into the housing estate. I witnessed this about twice a day on a Saturday in the 2 months I stayed.

I didn't have any trouble with anyone while I was there. Don't remember much else.

UselessRubberKeyboard dijo:
They take up homes that local families could live in, drive up rental prices, ruin swathes of the city when developers build yet more fucking student housing for them. They’re nomads and it doesn’t contribute to the culture of a city at all, certainly not if the city centre is full of student housing, student bars, student shops, etc etc. Where do the locals go? Their cities are now holiday camps for teenagers from other places, their homes likewise. Yet the money the teenagers spend is one of the few things keeping the local economy going. It’s a nasty bind to be in.

Someone told me that the number of people living on Canals has gone up through the roof. I walk regularly along the canals (one of the things I will miss when I move), and there are far more boats down there. You can get a decent boat for £70-100k with modern amenities. I saw a guy playing COD on a large screen display in his boat.

There are a good number of people also doing the whole van life thing. I drive around a lot to clear my mind, and there are a huge number of campers near canals and other people living in cars. I met a schizo grandma telling her about COVID vaccine envelopes from Satan and other nonsense and forgot to ask her if she was living out of her car, because she had like food and snacks in the boot, and I'd seen her down there a few times. Plenty of people like that.

A lot of people have got an old VW van and are kinda living out of that.

I'm a Silly · 21 de Jun, 2026

Sir Baz the Intolerant dijo:
It's the go to phrase upper-class, WASP Americans use to acknowledge someone's misfortune while simultaneously signalling that they could not give less of a fuck about it.

Case in point:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8HkYa1cqyF4

A note: Tim has a peculiarity in pronouncing DUI [driving under the influence] as deewee, and nobody else does this, just in case anyone wonders.

BongoMongo · 21 de Jun, 2026

AssignedEva dijo:
"Let's fuck over the country because it means people I dislike will suffer" is retard MAGA logic.

Oh fuck off. Cunts like you don't care because politics is London centric and you're spared the worst of it.

I want you as your ilk to suffer so you get what rest of us have to put up with.

Breadbassket · 22 de Jun, 2026

Perhaps someone here might find this amusing:

Moosebonker · 22 de Jun, 2026

KeeKeeCooch dijo:
I'm sure London can survive without having billions on money invested through illegal channels for once. The establishment has pretty much made London the control point of the UK. While the rest of the country falls to shit. Don't they say that if London was taken out of the picture, most of England would be below most US states? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Correct, although England does not have a GDP, the UK does though.

50 States, 50 chances to get it wrong.

https://www.newsweek.com/britons-guess-how-wealthy-uk-vs-all-us-states-get-wrong-11843759

Wonderland foster child · 22 de Jun, 2026

Last night, someone not in the UK was asking me why Burnham is (allegedly) about to become the next PM, and I honestly couldn't answer. Why is this guy seen as the next great hope? What is he likely to do that TTK didn't/couldn't?

And are Hard-Working British Families dealing with the COL actually paying attention to this? It would have been very easy for me to get my news from Metro headlines and dismiss this as just the usual political squabbling/another bye-election. Is there likely to be a widespread "wait, what?" if when Starmer goes?

SirCliveSinclairdabbing · 22 de Jun, 2026

If one more person says they’re from Crewe I’m gonna petition null to change the thread title to the Polish news megathread.

i440BX · 22 de Jun, 2026

SchizoDaemon dijo:
I heard it would be poorer than Eastern Europe.

I wouldn't say poorer is the right term, the Eastern Europeans earn less dollars than the British.
The problem, instead, is the ratio of the cost of living and the salary. It's like living in California or New York, but everything is so expensive, that you wonder if it's even worth living there if you barely remain with leftover money.
From what I understand, the ability to purchase a house, pay for rent is much worse in UK than in Eastern Europe. Also add the huge amount of taxes you have to pay there.

A thing where Eastern Europe definitely is better is the higher trust in the society, which is a pity, because UK, till 2000s, used to be so much better, but now its much more unsafe than countries like Ukraine or Romania.
Ukraine and Romania, currently, is far from matching the high trust of 1950s-1960s UK or US, but Western Europe has sunk lower than us today, due to rapefugees, anarcho-tyranny and two-tier justice.
I do hope you get to fix your country, Britons. It's such a pity because we used to look at countries like UK as an example of a low corruption, civilized country till recently.

Regards: a Romanian.

BongoMongo · 22 de Jun, 2026

I'm really looking forward to the hot weather resulting in more niggers and spastics drowning. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

KeeKeeCooch

Heinrich Maneuver

it's just you, me and this wire

SchizoDaemon

AssignedEva

I throw the quesadilla at the wall.

KeeKeeCooch

K-Hole

Is Britain really as poor as Mississippi?

Hannibalistique

Professional Ligma Enthusiast

SchizoDaemon

the rat

The patterns mason, what do they mean?

UselessRubberKeyboard

Jet Set Neowilly

teriyakiburns

Why'd the guy give a name to his penis?

SchizoDaemon

I'm a Silly

𝕷𝖎𝖉𝖑 𝕯𝖗𝖎𝖕 𝖘𝖙𝖆𝖓 𝖆𝖈𝖈𝖔𝖚𝖓𝖙

BongoMongo

Breadbassket

Moosebonker

Tartan Triangle

Wonderland foster child

SirCliveSinclairdabbing

I'm on the ZX Spectrum.

i440BX

BongoMongo

UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

it's just you, me and this wire

I throw the quesadilla at the wall.

Is Britain really as poor as Mississippi?​

Professional Ligma Enthusiast

The patterns mason, what do they mean?

Jet Set Neowilly

Why'd the guy give a name to his penis?

𝕷𝖎𝖉𝖑 𝕯𝖗𝖎𝖕 𝖘𝖙𝖆𝖓 𝖆𝖈𝖈𝖔𝖚𝖓𝖙

Tartan Triangle

I'm on the ZX Spectrum.

Is Britain really as poor as Mississippi?