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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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ConsentAccidentVictimNo98 dijo:
Really thinking it would have been great to invest in some hotels with all the boat people. Imagine how much I could make, millions, billions!
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Cheap HMO is the way to go. House enough boat people and you could get a one sided contract with the council or charity to look after the property on your behalf. Depending on where the property is you could look at £700+ per head, per room from them.
Look on right move in your area and check the lowest priced property and filter out the auctions. Council will probably be a lot more accommodating to approving an HMO of your doing it for "humanitarian reasons". The money makes itself if you invest wisely enough.
 
Jesus Christ I don't think it's said enough how shambolic our NHS is.
Government ownership is where efficiency goes to die.
I went with a relative today and had to queue in pre reception queue to tell them what was wrong, then a reception queue to get booked in and collect personal data. Then came waiting room 1, then a second waiting room, then we were directed to waiting room 3, and finally we were sent to waiting room 4 to be seen.
This shit cannot be how it is meant to work.
 
Symbol of the Chud dijo:
Jesus Christ I don't think it's said enough how shambolic our NHS is.
Government ownership is where efficiency goes to die.
I went with a relative today and had to queue in pre reception queue to tell them what was wrong, then a reception queue to get booked in and collect personal data. Then came waiting room 1, then a second waiting room, then we were directed to waiting room 3, and finally we were sent to waiting room 4 to be seen.
This shit cannot be how it is meant to work.
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The NHS being "government owned" is a myth, it has been softly privitized for decades with Blair making it so a lot of the NHS treatment has been sent to the private sector, with NHS delays and all that. But a lot of the problem is that healthcare is really expensive and the entire economy is fucked, especially with the government sector. I'm not going into depth bc I want to go for a Friday pint but yeah.
 
Vesperus dijo:
Ok, am I the only person who didn't know about this guy? Did someone post this and I missed it?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lvNYFtbOl5g
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I watched the walking interview in Makerfield that introduced Frank Wright to the world. My immediate impression was that it didn't feel organic. It could be that the alternative right-wing media stopped huffing their own farts long enough to realise that they had an undiscovered star in their distant orbit, and then someone was smart enough to choreograph an entrance that would present him as a grass roots figure.

I don’t know whether that is the case.

Here is this erudite man, who expresses himself passionately without rising to demagoguery. He says that he drove to Makerfield from Newbury, with his son, indicating that he cares about the future of the country where his boy will grow up. In other interviews, he comes across as very well-read. He has complex, fully-formed opinions. He is smart enough to magnanimously disagree with people who are on his own side and who are often delighted to have been argued down so eloquently. He is almost too good to be true. Everything about him is on the nose, right down to his appearance which I note has been de-rastafied by 100%. He is called Frank Wright, presumably because Joe Everyman was already taken.

I might be wrong, but every time I watch this man I feel like I am watching a performance.
 
JosephStalin dijo:
Questions for the UKtards...do you believe this is the "George Floyd moment' that will get Starner out of 10 Downing Street? Do you believe this will resulting in any lasting change, such as cutting down the number of 'immigrants' and 'asylum seekers'?
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The following scenarios result in Keir Starmer leaving:
  1. Andy Burnham wins the by-election.
  2. The next general election.
Nothing else. Labour doesn't have a 1922 committee, so they cannot do a vote of no confidence. Instead (currently) 81 MPs need to back a replacement leader to trigger a leadership election. As Wes demonstrated, there's currently nobody in the Parliamentary Labour Party that attracts that much support. If Andy Burnham wins his by-election - and that's if - then he'll be an MP and so will get enough support to trigger a leadership election. Keir most likely will still run, but the numbers do suggest Andy will cinch it (although I do suspect politically he's just Keir Starmer in a flat cap with more charisma).

Alternatively, the next general election (2-3 years away) will probably see Labour voted out. Although if Keir survives the Andy Burnham challenge and clings onto his seat, he may remain party leader and Prime Minister if it's a hung parliament (no overall majority, coalition government must be formed).

The pretence of shame exited British politics circa 2019 with Boris Johnson; Prime Ministers no longer consider doing the honourable thing. The only thing that may force their hand is mass resignations of Cabinet, but that is still survivable unless you have multiple rounds of it and run out of hungry ambitious careerist MPs (which happened to Boris), and things aren't anywhere near bad enough for that yet.
SIMIΔN dijo:
The one country that pushed itself back from Jeetification, Tamils used to be 1/3 of the population and growing, but the natives said no
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Pretty much every Sri Lankan you encounter here is Tamil for that exact reason.
The other big ethnic group, the Sinhalese, are basically displaced Bangladeshis, and largely look like this:
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The Sri Lankan civil war (in terms of ethnicity, there was communism mixed in) was analagous to Catholics vs Protestants in Ireland, with the Tamils being the Protestants trying to make their own Northern Ireland.
 
Airstrip One dijo:
I might be wrong, but every time I watch this man I feel like I am watching a performance.
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Is it really so hard to imagine an erudite man of the right reaching a point where he feels he has to stand up and speak? The pervasive meme that only the left can be intellectual and well-spoken has crippled the right for decades, by inculcating distrust of anyone who can make a coherent and focused argument, to the point that we instinctively tear down every figure that can string more than two words together. We're only allowed to have football hooligans, smuckling morons, and drunkards representing us, so that the intellectual "elite" of the left can portray the right as ignorant and incapable.
 
AssignedEva dijo:
  1. Andy Burnham wins the by-election.
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The by-election is pretty interesting. I have actually been wanting to make something akin to an article on it. Not a fully rigorious one (as per citations and all that) but on the actual game theory, and the moves taken by all the side. Labour leadership wants Burnham to lose, keeping Manchester Mayorship and to keep him out of number 10. Whilst the greens are cautious as they see him as a leadership threat. Whilst the right are splitting hairs over it. Reform wants a seat, Restore wants legitimacy whilst the tories are well, clinging on.
 
BongoMongo dijo:
If councils want people to feel supported and safe they could start by not hiding evidence of rape gangs. Just a thought, eh?
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Double posting gay, ik, but the reason they hide evidence is a top down approach meant to stop prejudice and all that. Source, I had an ex copper give me PREVENT mentoring at 13, 14 because I was that much of a smart ass and willing to engage. It's to keep people from hating the others. Very basic theory.
 
Breadbassket dijo:
Do Jamaicans make up a significant portion of the Makerfield voting electorate?
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No such excuse. I guess Rob's just a wigger,
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(Not the full Parliamentary constituency but you get the idea)

To give him his dues he did get a scalp on Question Time, when he made the Green party lady malfunction on supply and demand as it relates to the housing crisis and immigration.
 
News time

As expected Birmingham Council leader was not anyone affiliated with Reform despite them being the largest party. So instead it's a Lib Dem leader backed by Greens and Independents, AKA Hamas supporters and Independents.

Liberal Democrat Roger Harmer has been elected leader of Birmingham City Council with his party forming a minority administration with the Greens and Better Birmingham Independent Group.

The authority was left in deadlock after the 7 May local elections, with no party reaching the 51 seats needed for a majority.

The council - subject to national scrutiny following a long-running bins strike and its prior financial challenges - is the largest in England, with 101 councillors and a budget of more than £4.4bn to manage.

Following last month's elections, Reform UK ended up with the most councillors in Birmingham - a total of 23 - but the party ruled itself out of controlling the authority, stating no one was willing to work with them and there was therefore no viable route to power. One month later on Friday evening, Harmer - whose Lib Dem group has the fewest councillors in the city - became the person in charge.
Speaking immediately after his victory, Harmer - the first ever Liberal Democrat leader of Birmingham City Council - said his priority would be settling the bin strike, which has been running for more than a year.

"We will find a deal. We will make a deal.There has to be a deal, and that is number one item on our agenda," he said.

"Our streets should be free from litter and fly-tipping," he said. "The bin strike has gone unresolved for far too long, impacting the daily lives of thousands. Tackling this head-on is not optional, it is essential."

Harmer also poured water on the idea that a minority administration automatically amounted to chaos, describing the situation instead as collaboration that would deliver for the people of Birmingham whom he said had been let down for years.

He said Birmingham required "leadership that is steady, pragmatic, and unwavering in its focus on the issues that matter most to residents".

"In recent years Birmingham has faced uncertainty, and real damage to its reputation.

"This coalition shows what can be achieved when we put our city above narrow party politics."

Julien Pritchard, leader of the Greens in Birmingham, said his councillors were "proud to step up to serve our fantastic city" and would work towards "a greener, safer and fairer" one.

He added: "Greens believe in doing politics differently and our commitment to this forms the basis of our collaborative administration."

Strike​

Robert Alden, Conservative, and Reform's Jex Parkin - despite his party's previous statement - were also nominated for leader, but Harmer was voted in with 40 votes amid a number of abstentions.

Labour, which previously ran the council, had also ruled itself out of forming any coalition. The party has 17 councillors in Birmingham - one more than the Conservatives and two fewer than the Greens, the city's second largest block behind Reform.

In 2022, Labour held 65 seats.

More recently, the group had been locked in a row with members of the Unite union over pay and the loss of some job roles, with all-out, continuing strike action beginning in March 2025.

The city brought in agency staff to maintain waste collections, although recycling collections are still not being carried out.

Days from the local elections of 7 May, the then council leader, Labour's John Cotton, said a settlement was "within sight" to resolve the dispute.

Unite officials said any new agreement would have to be put to members but that what was floated by Cotton included compensation of up to £16,000 for workers.

In 2023, the council declared itself effectively bankrupt due to a financial black hole linked to equal pay liabilities and the botched installation of a multi-million-pound IT system.

Government commissioners were brought in to oversee the council's finances and their work continues.

Cabinet​

Following events on Friday, the city's cabinet positions were revealed, with the posts being shared across the coalition partners:

  • Economy and sustainability: Julien Pritchard (Green), Deputy James Hinton (Lib Dem)
  • Finance: Chris Graghan (Green), Deputy Shaukat Khan (Lib Dem)
  • City operations and digital: Harris Khaliq (Better Birmingham), Deputy Joe Peacock (Green)
  • Transport: Rob Grant (Green), Deputy Izzy Knowles (Lib Dem)
  • Housing and homelessness: Baber Baz (Lib Dem), Deputy Atikur Rahman (Green)
  • Children, young people and families: Kamel Hawwash (Green), Deputy Mumtaz Hussain (Lim Dem)
  • Health and social care: Nosheen Khalid (Better Birmingham), Hamzah Sheikh (Green)
  • Culture and heritage: Deborah Harries (Lim Dem), Deputy Raheem Humphreys (Green)
  • Equalities, communities and social justice: Jane Baston (Green)
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Ex-chair of Ofcom says BBC and others are being a bunch of seething toddlers about GB news
Michael Grade, the recently departed chair of Britain’s media watchdog, has accused broadcasters of being “embarrassed” by GB News because it covers the “agenda of the majority”.

Grade, who has recently retaken the Conservative whip in the House of Lords after stepping down from Ofcom, said he was now able to give his real view on the rightwing broadcaster, which has faced repeated accusations of partial and misleading coverage.


“I can now speak [freely], as I’m not at Ofcom,” Grade told Politics Home. “I honestly think they’re embarrassed by the fact that there is a news organisation that has a different news agenda to them, that speaks to the agenda of the majority – if you look at the polls, a large swathe of the voting population, who have no voice on the BBC.

“Immigration, Brexit, these are all issues that don’t get the weight on the BBC, or haven’t been able to, that GB News will give, so what’s the problem?”

A series of concerns have been raised over Ofcom’s approach to regulating GB News under Grade’s reign. He was appointed to the role under Boris Johnson’s government in 2022.

Former Ofcom figures have questioned its lack of intervention, and its decision not to change rules that allow figures from Reform UK to present GB News shows.

However, Grade said the “same rules apply to GB News as apply to the BBC, Sky, ITN, whoever”.

“All news programmes are the result of editorial choices made all along the line. What story are we going to cover? How are we going to cover it? Who do we interview? What are we going to ask them? What are we going to use? Where does it go in the running order?

“Everything’s a choice, all the way up. [Just] because GB News make different editorial choices necessarily on each news day from the BBC, ITN or Sky, doesn’t make it wrong.

“[GB News has] actually got better and better. It’s not difficult to comply; sometimes it’s only a sentence in a script.”

Grade’s remarks faced immediate criticism. Chris Banatvala, Ofcom’s founding director of standards, who drafted its code and investigation procedures, disputed the peer’s understanding of Ofcom’s broadcasting code.

“After reading hundreds of pages of Ofcom impartiality decisions, perhaps the clearest explanation for the regulator’s failures is Lord Grade’s suggestion that due impartiality can be achieved with little more than ‘a sentence in a script’,” he said.

“Grade is also wrong about the criticism of Ofcom. No one seriously argues that GB News’s editorial agenda is itself the problem. Decisions about which stories to cover have always been a matter for broadcasters, not the regulator. The evidence is now clear: Ofcom is not applying the same regulatory standards to GB News as other news services.”

A GB News spokesperson said: “GB News is Britain’s No 1 news channel. It’s because we believe journalism is there to serve the people of our nation and not the media establishment elite.”

Some senior TV figures believe the channel should not be allowed to broadcast in the way it does, with the vast majority of presenters, as well as guests, speaking from a rightwing perspective.

Ofcom was criticised for failing to investigate GB News’s interview with Donald Trump at the end of last year, after receiving complaints that the US president’s claims about climate change, Islam and immigration had gone unchallenged.

It has since announced it is investigating a show that repeated the interview a day after its original broadcast.

GB News said it was “surprised and concerned” by what it described as Ofcom’s “delayed decision” over the Trump interview, pointing to the regulator’s previous decision not to pursue complaints about its original airing. “GB News stands firmly by its journalism and editorial standards,” it said.

Steven Barnett, a professor of communications at the University of Westminster, said: “Michael Grade appears to have rewritten the law on impartiality.

“It is up to parliament to decide whether it wishes to change the law, but in the meantime let’s hope that Ofcom under its new chairman [Ian Cheshire] is prepared to regulate GB News as parliament required.”
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Heart warming story of the week
A farmer has said he sprayed dozens of cars parked in his field with cow slurry because he is sick of tourists flouting countryside rules.
Hogg Hodgson, a sheep farmer, reportedly said he was “fed up” with Lake District day-trippers not respecting local conventions when he took matters into his own hands on bank holiday Monday.
The tenant farmer, whose family has run Rydal Farm, near Ambleside, Cumbria, for generations, sprayed the Mercedes, Jaguars and BMWs of motorists who had apparently ignored a no-parking sign.
Drivers had been warned by a large yellow sign on a gate which said: “Polite notice. DO NOT PARK IN THE FIELD.”
An accompanying poster also showed that sheep lived in the field, with a warning to keep all dogs on leads.
Despite a largely supportive response to his slurry-spraying reprisal, Mr Hodgson said he was “no hero” and was looking to protect his livestock and land.
He told the Daily Mail: “I’m not proud of what I did. I didn’t do it for any particular reason other than the way tourists behave. I just get fed up with the way they treat the Lake District.
“I am sick of being abused by people when I ask them not to park on our land.”

Mr Hodgson claimed tourists would leave farm gates open, break fences and litter his fields, which border Rydal Water.
The farmer said the action he had taken was within the law. He added: “Everything I did was on the field, I didn’t spray anything on the road.”
Residents have expressed support for the farmer after it was claimed tourists moved rocks blocking access to the field so they could park.
When approached by The Telegraph, Mr Hodgson’s wife said the couple were grateful for the support but did not want to comment further.
A woman working in the area, who wished to remain anonymous, said: “You can’t blame the farmer for doing what he did. That field is obviously not a car park.
“The sheep were scared and huddling in a corner. It’s just the same as parking in his garden.”
She added: “I usually move people on and stop them from parking there.
“Normally I manage it, but it was a really busy day and I was being ignored. Motorists moved the stones so they could drive into the field to park.”
The field is close to Pelter Bridge car park, which was full by 9am on Friday. It costs £5.70 to park there for two hours or £9.20 to park for 24 hours.
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femboy fart huffer dijo:
Bats have some of the best immune systems in the entire world. Bats are incredibly resistant to disease.
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This is actually part of why North American bats are having so many problems right now. White Nose Syndrome, which is a Eurasian fungal infection, has been devastating populations over here and it kills directly because that immune system is so strong. When a bat wakes up from hibernation with WNS, their immune system kicks into gear really hard and the resulting immune response is so damaging and uses so many resources that the bat literally begins to fall apart. You'll find dead bats with holes in their wings from it sometimes.
 
Shhhhh. Be quiet, a black woman is talking.......

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"Claims of two-tier policing against white people are a complete inversion of reality. Like other forces, the Hampshire police have a clear racist bias against Black people. Police accused of 'anti-white bias' are 5 times more likely to stop Black people"

God bless the Lady of the House. That old school mentality of it's only my race that can be sinned against. Imagine being that bigoted and getting arse pats for it your whole life from portions of the race you accuse. And then putting odd shoes on the wrong feet.

Police are 5 times more likely to stop black people because they are 10 times more likely to be the culprit.

Having looked on X over the past few days I'm more convinced than ever that there is a war coming. Two sides heavily entrenched in their positions and I can't see how it is resolved. I genuinely think now it's not going to be English versus just the foreign invaders, I think it's going to be the English versus the Quislings ( starting with all those who booed the suggestion of two tier policing in parliament ) AND the invaders.
 
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