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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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If guns were cope, then why did your Evil goverment take them away?
It's not about the guns. If you've seen this short video, you'll know exactly what I mean. They took them away because the Dunblane shooting back in 1996, was the perfect opportunity to get it done, taking advantage of emotions, and setting the precedent that if someone else uses legally acquired tools for nefarious means. You a law abiding citizen will be punished for it. Same thing happened in the states long before before Dunblane happened (NFA,AWB and the other cringe ones), I'm not a lawyer, but the phrase "Shall not be Infrigned" would mean these bans are unconstitutional. It's not about the guns, it's about control. Price of freedom, eternal vigilance and all that.
 
Religion? Maybe, but discrimination on Christian denomination was long frowned upon due to the bloody cycles of martyrdom over the centuries.
I think I've pointed out before on idea of the British identity being constructed over waves of immigration that the history was all written in blood. Over time a new British people was born from these conquests, but that was the story of dynasties being overthrown and prior populations subjugated; my theory is that a proper ethnogenesis will not occur between native and immigrant groups without this process taking place; you will at best have multiple peoples who live apart.

Well likewise religion. Whatever detente exists between Christian sects was the result of centuries of bloody history teaching the value of tolerance. It created a group of people at the End of History who knew that diversity was our strength. The issue is that much of the world is very much not at the end of history with us. The same principle which can find a difference between the millennia of waves of immigration to the British isles and what has been happening recently (and I don't mean skin color) will tell you that the religious tolerance between a prot and a papist needn't apply between them and a muslim. Simply put, lessons of tolerance between peoples are always specific, never general; you learn to tolerate your neighbor through a history of blood, but it is foolish to assume that the lesson you learned was that neighbors are to be tolerated, rather just that neighbor is.
you catch more flies with honey than vinegar
I know it's a metaphor, but in case anyone is literally trying to catch and drown flies, I recommend soy sauce.
 
Why do they eat cow shit?

Thats the question I want to know
My best idea as to how it happened is because their original gods and rulers, (the white skinned Iranians that came to India on their horse drawn chariots, aka why the indian gods are pale skinned and ride chariots a lot) noticed that their new subservient slave race was retarded and didn't know how to farm at all, so they probably had to eventually resort to "cow poo is sacred and brings life to crops" to which the Indians took "Cow poo is sacred and brings life" from. So now they eat it.
Everything the Indians have is a result of taking some lesson from a more intelligent race and corrupting it to beyond worthlessness into something foul.
 
Your cops don't fear or respect you. They don't even see you as a potential threat. IF, and I'm not encouraging it, but if you start getting violent with your local officials, they might change their approach.
You're right for the most part when it's a group of cops that all swarm to arrest a lone bloke for some trumped up charge, but if you watched any of the videos from Southampton recently, or any of the riots/protests from last year in Southport, there are tons of clips of the filth running away and cowering from the rightfully angry and agitated prole when they're together.
The government is genuinely terrified of a mass civil uprising, as demonstrated by them running riot police (or Public Order Support Units, which just reeks of a name pulled out of the mind of Orwell) practices last year where the training ground they simulated was a hamlet/suburb. I think they're aware the state of the UK is that of a tea kettle boiling over, and if there was an armed populace like in the US that could potentially coup it would send them into a frenetic hysteria and you would see CCP style totalitarian crackdowns far more intense than the tripe already going on.
I really hope we get a Restore government at some point in the near future, because I reckon the status quo policy of "let's just cover this up and hope the public never learns about it" is cracking at the seams as there's just too much for people to not notice and become aware of the extent the government has been shafting them and ruining the future of the country. I don't think controlled opposition Farage is going to rip the blanket off and let people really see the rot, and it will just quell some of the building tension that people have since a good chunk will go "ah we got our man in office now, so everything's peachy keen" while he effectively does fuck all to better things. If anything I think Reform is going to be like term one Trump and disappoint people who wanted to actually see changes, while a Restore government would be the term two comeback that actually bring about the reformatting of the country that is desperately needed. Unfortunately I don't know how long the country has to last at the rate things are going so fingers crossed for some accelerationism that will push us towards the best outcome.
 
You have to do it carefully. During Covid, I converted a few people and o did it very carefully. I started with a very mild sort of comment that gosh, politicians eh? Corrupt buggers, look at this guy giving a PPE contract to his mate/neighbour/landlord and everyone agrees, yes, pork barrel innit?
That plants the seed that there’s corruption involved.
I've found it works pretty well with trans as a jumping off point. Part of the key is to talk as if you're not quite sure what you think either. What do you think about that transwoman rapist in the local jail, Sarah? I have to say it makes me a bit uncomfortable...... Then let it hang.

And then you have to go piecemeal. I know when I started to really see things, it was bit by bit. I didn't go from being quite live and let live on what I thought were a tiny of a fraction of a percentage of 'real' trans people, to realising that they are a bunch of perverts driven by their fetish who only get more extreme with each allowance made for them (and also multiculturalism is a disaster, and I don't think I believe in global warming, and the people at the top aren't fucking up by accident - they actively hate us, and I am actually a bit suspicious as to why there's always lines in the fucking sky) in one step. It's a process of one wall being broken down at a time. The good news is though, that once this kind of realisation hits a critical mass on a societal level, I think the whole thing will speed up.
 
Huh.
So, apparently Lyme disease is up by 20%:
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Isn't this carried by rodents and spread to humans by ticks?
I can't imagine how that happened.
Small mammals basically. There’s a specific type of mouse (black tailed or black striped or something) that’s the main european vector, it’s white footed mice in the USA. Deer aren’t actually a great vector but they can carry it. Lizards either can’t or dont transit, I can’t remember.
Tick borne illness is in the media s MUH CLIMATE CHANGE but while warmer winters are a factor, it’s mainly a sign of an ecosystem under stress. When you remove top predators you fuck up everything and you tend to get the smaller pest species expanding. (Insert my usual rant about climate is being used to suppress genuine environmentalism.)
Lyme is nasty. Most of Europe has endemic TBE as well, tick borne encephalitis, which is even worse as it’s viral rather than bacterial
@Heinrich Maneuver yes they do and it’s why you should NEVER touch a bat and if you find a bat 🦇 n your home you need to inform your doctor even if no visible bite. Uk bats carry EBLV - bat lyssavirus, which technically isn’t rabies, but is pretty much the same thing.
Bats are fantastic creatures, they eat quite phenomenal amounts of bugs and are essential for a healthy ecosystem but they’re an arms length thing. Do not touch bats, do not touch anything bats have been on - the lyssavirus can spread via a bats saliva and it is lethal
 
So it continues
Nowak's sister is reposting Jenrick clips on TikTok - the one of him saying 'white lives matter' and lecturing Mahmood in Parliament. She allegedly took it down afterwrads.
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Kemi Badenoch has met with the family. (X) The family is calling for 'common sense' to be brought back to policing.
Today I have met Lucy, Mark and Katie, Henry Nowak’s mother, father and stepmother. Their courage is extraordinary.

They have endured the most appalling loss, it is a life sentence for them.

They have also faced the agonising decision to release the harrowing body-worn camera footage, knowing how painful it would be and how strongly people would react. They did so because they want truth, accountability and change.

They have asked that we work across political parties and religions to rebuild trust in the police. That trust has been broken because of what happened, and I agree with them on that.

We must also be prepared to examine, carefully and seriously, religious practices or exemptions that permit the carrying of dangerous weapons in public, and other activities that are not conducive to the public good. We also need to examine where the law needs to change.

Henry’s family do not want anger to tear communities apart. They are a family who have friends across faith and race, and so did Henry. His family want his memory to help bring our society together.

Everyone knows I have strong views about how we should deal with equality under the law. What the family agreed with me on is that we need to bring common sense back, and that is what we should all be fighting for.

I promised the family that we will work to ensure there is a positive legacy for Henry out of this tragedy.

That is my focus now.

Picture from the M8 outside Glasgow; not sure what that logo is? looks like a lighthouse in a circle, or a spray can?
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The Times Bill Curtis reports that Hampshire police felt 'pressured to feel certain ways' after mandatory DEI training. (X)
Officers from force behind Henry Nowak arrest ‘pressured’ by diversity course
A staff survey found one in seven felt ‘controlled to feel certain ways’ to adopt certain ideas in the sessions run for Hampshire and Isle of Wight constabulary
Braverman chips in:
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Christys is also getting a ton of leaks on GBNews and I imagine more will come out. The BBC has had to apologise for ''misquoting'' Farage as saying 'white cold rage' instead of 'pure cold rage'.

A French youth group Ligne Droit is organising a vigil for Nowak in Paris on Sunday, with the blessings of Southampton Times who organised the protest.
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Marta Czech, of the Confederation of the Polish Crown (far right polack party), has called for a ''defence of Poles in our country and abroad” (X). The Spanish and Japanese 'far right' are also highlighting Nowak's murder. Note the Guardian SEETHES about them referring to Digwa as 'an Indian'. Mark Nowak's parents are Polish, and Henry's mother is English, if that matters.
Nowak’s father is understood to be of Polish descent.

She said: “We don’t have politicians who will care about Polish interests, or Poles, who will represent our values abroad, people with a Polish face, with a Polish passport. We need to be ready to repress these attacks. We must unite against such attacks.”

Ewa Zajączkowska-Hernik, a Polish MEP in Viktor Orbán’s grouping, described Digwa, a British citizen, as “an Indian”. In a post on Facebook, Zajączkowska-Hernik blamed “mass immigration”, adding: “This story symbolises Britain’s descent into the depths of the earth … How brainwashed do you have to be with leftist propaganda and political correctness to react this way? And how can you even bring your country to such a state with mass immigration that undermines security?

“White lives don’t matter? Has the world reached this point, brainwashed by this suicidal, leftist ideology?”.

The far-right French politician Éric Zemmour, who organised rallies to protest against the rape and murder of a 12-year-old, Lola Daviet, in France in 2022, despite opposition from her family, said Nowak’s “immigrant perpetrator” was being protected by the “religion of anti-racism”.

He wrote on X: “This horrific murder is a metaphor for what the West is experiencing: the native is treated as a suspect, while the immigrant perpetrator is shielded by the religion of anti-racism, which paralyses government officials and police officers. This time, there will be no kneeling. Europeans, in their own homeland, are not allowed to do so.”

Santiago Abascal, the leader of the Spanish far-right party Vox, wrote that “the British people are burning with rage” over Nowak’s death.

He wrote on X: “The mainstream media, silent, as usual ... The globalist elites who have spawned this madness, also looking the other way. There are many responsible parties and accomplices in the atrocities we see daily in Europe. They should all be brought to justice, and one day they will be.”

A hard-right news aggregator in Japan called Hoshu-Sokuhou, which specialises in anti-Chinese and anti-Korean content, ran an article about the attack. It concluded: “This can be seen as a concrete example of the failure of multiculturalism and the result of the police prioritising political and racial considerations above all else, thereby losing sight of their fundamental duty to protect the lives of the public.”

CPS has charged two with disorder in Southampton
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This cover from the Spectator is kino. If anyone sees this in stores please let me know where because I'm a sperg for political cartoons and want this one my wall next to the others. MILLIONS MUST GO, in minecraft
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small 'flash gatherings' took place outside multiple police stations across the UK, all passing without incident (X)
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The Telegraph writes that the 'woke experiment' has gone wrong. (X) Emphasis mine
It’s an axiom in politics that one should never exploit a tragedy for votes: “And if my opponent does, I’d urge you to vote for me instead.”
So, the PM at his weekly Questions did not call for a minute’s silence for Henry Nowak (his knees can no longer take it), but 30 minutes of silence on the subject of two-tier policing, acknowledging that something went wrong but that it would be poor taste to ask what.
He commended the tone of Kemi Badenoch, who talked about welfare instead; and of Sir Ed Davey, who excoriated Reform for treating the killing “like a political football”. Davey, an ungainly child who is rarely this agile, weaved his own little ball between Left and Right – making points James O’Brien and Elon Musk could agree with – as he dribbled it through an open goal. Indulgent adults cheered him on.
Nice one, said the PM: “We do not want [Henry’s] death to be used to create further division.” The Commons hummed with discreet satisfaction. Fifteen minutes in, something had been said but not a lot, which felt about right.
Then Sir Lindsay Hoyle invited the elephant to address the room. Nigel Farage rose to speak for Ingerland.
Trying to be heard over the outrage of Victorian socialists (Lucy Powell pulled a matronly face of disgust she usually reserves for the voters), Nigel argued that two-tier policing existed, the riot in Southampton was an inevitable reaction, and unless the Government acted fast, things were “in danger of getting significantly worse”.
“SHAME on you!” cried Labour MPs. He almost needed a police escort to return to his seat. The Prime Minister, whose first instinct was to call the police and record a hate crime, saw a moment to shine, like a fresh coat of creosote, and said: “His response has been to appeal for rage... It shows exactly who he is.”

Nigel waved and shook his head, as he always does. This is not his forum. It’s 600-odd against him. But what felt to the Commons like an affirmation of collective civility will have looked to TV viewers like a display of collective insanity, as Sir Keir asserted, certifiably, that two-tier policing does not exist, yet the policing was bad and we must see if race had anything to do with it. His tact sounded less like statesmanship than championship evasion.
If the victim could not breathe, MPs cannot speak, because Westminster is paralysed by fear. They know, even the thick ones, that the woke experiment has gone horribly wrong, that it has broken trust in policing and persuaded millions that the state is biased against them – a recipe for riot, for when people don’t trust democracy, they turn to the streets instead.
The result? MPs are now terrified of their own voters, particularly the poor ones, regarding them like a wild animal that has wandered into the enclosure and could turn nasty any moment. So, they step around them with caution, using gentle words in soft whispers: “Please don’t riot, please don’t riot. There, there. Who’s a good boy?”
But the riot has begun, the rage at Farage is displacement. It was a desperately sad scene, as if shouting at a youth for playing with matches while, around them, the House was burning down.
 
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The nudge unit is calling for common. I assure you that the family wants blood.
They are meeting with Keir Starmer today, so we shall see what the nudge unit comes up with. Starmer did not see Ms Whyte, mother of Rhiannon who was murdered by the migrant in Wolverhampton, and she was invited to see Farage and Lowe instead, and I believe she is now a member of Restore. Perhaps he is trying to prevent that happening again.

Lowe has written to the BBC Director General stating that it is his goal to put him out of a job over the Makerfield election fiasco.
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I know it's a metaphor, but in case anyone is literally trying to catch and drown flies, I recommend soy sauce
I used to buy that fancy kikkoman soy sauce, you know the kind in the cute glass bottle with the red plastic top?
One summer day I poured some out into a little ornate bowl to mix with wasabi, and it looked a bit chunky.
Turns out, the apertures on the red plastic top are the perfect size to admit the common midge. There must have been about five trillion in there.
I buy co-op brand soy sauce in a plastic screw top bottle now.
 
Avoid 'reactive' police reforms after Nowak murder, senior black officer warns

The head of the National Black Police Association (NPBA) has warned police forces are at risk of making "not well thought-out" changes to anti-racism guidance following the murder of Henry Nowak.

Andy George, a Police Service of Northern Ireland chief inspector, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that a move to re-draft an anti-racism commitment in light of the case was "reactive".

His comments came after former Home Secretary Jack Straw told the Telegraph, external there had been an "over-correction" within policing after the 1993 murder of black teenager Stephen Lawrence.

He said "much greater care" was needed with police race guidance, and claimed "vocal pressure groups" had exerted too much influence.

The murder of 18-year-old student Henry Nowak and subsequent police response have prompted accusations of so-called two-tier policing by some.

Nowak was arrested by officers as he lay dying after his attacker, 23-year-old Sikh man Vickrum Digwa, falsely claimed he had been racially abused by the student.

Digwa was jailed for life with a minimum 21-year term on Monday, while the Independent Office for Police Conduct's (IOPC) is investigating the response of officers.

There has been particular scrutiny of a National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) anti-racism commitment, which states that ensuring racial equality in policing "does not mean treating everyone 'the same' or being 'colour blind'".

The NPCC said it was reviewing the wording after opposition politicians pointed to it as evidence of unequal standards in policing.

The home secretary supports the review. Sir Keir also said on Thursday it was "right" for the NPCC to review some guidance.

Asked about changes to guidelines being proposed this week, George said: "There's definitely lessons to be learned from the Henry Nowak case and if the [police watchdog] sees through their thorough investigation that there are things that need to be done and changed – then certainly that's the time when things should be looked at.

"For us to go forward and for the policing minister to say 'that needs to be corrected or looked into right now' – for us, when we've pushed for things that impact black communities or black individuals, we've never seen policing move as quick as what they're advocating for right now.

"So, I would say it is definitely an auto-correction – it's very swift, it's quick – I don't think it's as well thought-out as it should be.

"I think it's reactive to the current swell that we're seeing in social media and across different areas of public life at the minute."

In 2024, the association George leads withdrew its support for the race action plan which included the commitment being reviewed this week, over what it said was a lack of dialogue with black officers.

George's sentiments were echoed by some serving police officers who spoke to the BBC anonymously.

One black police officer called for people to "calm down and look at the evidence" about police relations with minority communities, adding: "A calm head is needed and I'm worried wrong decisions could be made in the heat of the moment as we come through this latest story."

A South Asian police officer said he had been upset by Nowak's death, but added "we try our best to treat everyone same and I know we will always do that".

But the same officer also said anti-racism training had left some officers "on edge", adding: "Some white colleagues are nervous because they know they're being watched and judged when it's about racism."

Straw was home secretary when the Macpherson Report was published, which branded the Metropolitan Police institutionally racist in the wake of Stephen Lawrence's murder.

He told the Telegraph that "things were out of kilter at the time of the Macpherson report", adding: "There was no question about that but sometimes you get reactions which go too far the other way. That's obviously happened here."

Baroness Kishwer Falkner, the former chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, said there had not been an over-correction in policing standards, but agreed a perception of unfairness had been established for parts of the community.

She accused police forces and other public organisations of trying to "virtue signal", and said that could result in a "breakdown of impartiality and public trust and confidence".

She also called for unconscious bias training in public bodies to be scrapped because it is "proven not to work".

Speaking in the House of Lords on Wednesday, Baroness Lawrence, the mother of the murdered teenager Stephen Lawrence, shared her condolences with the Nowak family.

She said: "I think what's happened with him should never have happened.

"And the police should be at fault for what happened on that night."

Earlier this week, Reform UK leader Nigel Farage said the public should react to Nowak's death with "pure, cold rage", leading Sir Keir Starmer to accuse him of exploiting the case to create "grievance and division".

On Thursday, the prime minister accused tech billionaire Elon Musk, who has repeatedly commented on the case on social media, of "trying to whip up division".

Also on Thursday, Conservative Party leader Kemi Badenoch said she had met Nowak's family, who told her they "do not want anger to tear communities apart".

She continued: "What the family agreed with me on is that we need to bring common sense back, and that is what we should all be fighting for."

Sir Keir is expected to meet the Nowak family later on Thursday.

Protests following the sentencing of Nowak's killer led to violent clashes between police and protesters on Tuesday near the site of Nowak's stabbing.

Eleven police officers were injured and two people have been charged with criminal offences.

After the sentencing of his son's killer, Nowak's father Mark said it was "unbearable" to see how his son had been treated by police in his final moments, but added: "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension."

Alexis Boon, chief constable of Hampshire Police, apologised to Nowak's family on Wednesday.

tl;dr Black DCI doesn't want anything to change, after the NPCC decided that things might need to change. Blairites are coming out of the woodwork to back up Blair's intervention last week against Labour's current trajectory, now wrapping the police "anti-racism" policies into things that have gone too far, too fast. They're supporting a temporary reversal of the worst excesses of the Blair reforms. I suspect we're going to see the same sort of outcome here as with the changes to transgender policies we got a few weeks back, where the state repositions to a relatively sane stance out of desperation to stave off the threat of Reform, but also the threat of these Blairite interveners, who are setting up the stage for Blair to crown himself as a suprapolitical guiding figure. Blair has conluded that a Reform government is a certainty at the next election and is positioning himself to be a direct influence over it, in order to continue the pursuit of his political goals, which have largely been derailed by the current Labour government.

Anyway, the point is, I think we'll get a rolling back of some of the DIE policies out of this. Enough to appear to fix the problem, at least.
 
The nudge unit is calling for common. I assure you that the family wants blood.
His sister reposted a tiktok of Jenrick asking mahmood to say white lives matter

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Don't be fooled by this, Jenrick could recite the entire DNB copypasta in PMQs and it wouldn't make up for the amount of damage he's caused the British people
 
It's about what she thinks rather than what he thinks, I think.
The grandmother has also been criticising Hampshire Police (X)
"Shame on the monster who took him, shame on the officers who should've helped him & shame on the organisation that trained police to prioritise accusations of racism over a dying man."

The Government is being advised to ban NHS staff from wearing political badges to stop antisemitism. (X) The antisemitism adviser (wtf???) said: “I don’t expect my dentist to be wearing an ‘I love Palestine’ badge, or indeed an ‘I love Israel’ badge, on their uniform”
The Government’s independent antisemitism adviser said that while it’s “valid as a human right” to be politically active, “taking the NHS into that is a problem”. “That separation of the NHS and people’s viewpoints, I think, has become a problem”
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Dall - E won't let me generate an image of gooner Starmer :(
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DeepAI did okay...
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Flow once again making me wonder why I even bother trying anything else.
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I know, I know, I should create my own, organic, home-grown Soyjak, but I'm busy! I'm sorry.
 

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Do not touch bats, do not touch anything bats have been on - the lyssavirus can spread via a bats saliva and it is lethal
I'm now fretting because I used to help clean the church with my grandma as a kid, and they had bats. I remember sweeping up little poo pellets from the choir carpet.
 
I'm now fretting because I used to help clean the church with my grandma as a kid, and they had bats. I remember sweeping up little poo pellets from the choir carpet.
I think you got away with it.
I on the other hand am just back from the Dr with a 6 week course of antibiotics for Lyme disease. First time, wish me luck.
 
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