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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Leaving England for America is not betrayal. It is choosing a country with more ambition, more scale, more opportunity, and far less attachment to managed decline. England is a place where people are taught to confuse decay with tradition. America, for all its flaws, still rewards risk, reinvention, and refusal to know your place. Not the case in England. Abandoning England is coming to your people. It is refusing to sink with a smaller, meaner, more class ridden society that wants obedience masqerading as loyalty. If someone finds better prospects, greater freedom, and a bigger life in America, that is not shameful. That is rational. The truly pathetic mindset is demanding that people stay in a declining country.
I don't want to act in the interest of just one person (myself), I want to act in the interest of my family, my friends, and my people.
My people. The English first, then the other peoples native to the British isles second. I don't want to replace the identity I was born into—my tribe, effectively—just to swear loyalty to a civic American one.

That isn't to say the mindset I oppose here or what you describe is American, and I won't badmouth a nation you besmirch by using them to justify your selfish, self-centered existence, you parasite. People like you burden the USA.
 
There are many white reporters and journalists and it’s hard to lie to themselves that everything is hunky-Dory when it could’ve been them that got stabbed and the police let die.
I think it's very easy actually, I think it never onced crossed their smooth-scrubbed minds that it could have been them because they too are white, because to do so would threaten to collapse the precariously balanced world order they have in place of a central nervous system. It requires them to acknowledge that racism can even affect white people at all, which is of course impossible because racism = prejudice + power, and only white people have power so you cannot be racist against them. Therefore, he cannot have been killed in a racist attack because he was white, so it can't happen to them because such a thing cannot happen at all.
 
I don't want to act in the interest of just one person (myself), I want to act in the interest of my family, my friends, and my people.
My people. The English first, then the other peoples native to the British isles second. I don't want to replace the identity I was born into—my tribe, effectively—just to swear loyalty to a civic American one.

That isn't to say the mindset I oppose here or what you describe is American, and I won't badmouth a nation you besmirch by using them to justify your selfish, self-centered existence, you parasite. People like you burden the USA.
That is not loyalty. It is laughably narcissistic.

Leaving for America is not “betraying your tribe.” It is choosing a larger, freer, more ambitious civilization over the pile of shit that England has become.

“You burden the USA” line is especially stupid and more aptly applied to the English. England is one of the largest welfare nations in the developed world. In addition to parasites, you people have a problem with pedophiles. Law enforcement arresting 1,000+ offenders a month. Those are just the one’s that get caught. That’s not just paki’s that’s plenty of whites. Not surprised given your people’s history of subjugating the underclass.

The lamest part of your post is the fake nobility. You talk about family, friends, and “your people,” but this is just typical english resentment. You want sacrifice from others because you’re probably not good enough to make it in America.

TLDR: Buddy you're a dickless faggot. Fuck the king and stay in your welfare island country of nonces.
 
I think it's very easy actually, I think it never onced crossed their smooth-scrubbed minds that it could have been them because they too are white, because to do so would threaten to collapse the precariously balanced world order they have in place of a central nervous system. It requires them to acknowledge that racism can even affect white people at all, which is of course impossible because racism = prejudice + power, and only white people have power so you cannot be racist against them. Therefore, he cannot have been killed in a racist attack because he was white, so it can't happen to them because such a thing cannot happen at all.
They are journalists which means that in order to lie about it convincingly they need to be aware of the facts, and the facts are impossible to deny that Henry died due to racism. There's simply no way to spin it when the video footage of the incident is publicly available and the key details are uncontested.
 
It's literally just ignorant retardism. It's Americans that have no idea about the country, giving their uninformed retard opinions because they choke down the propaganda. It'd be like every brit on kiwifarms reading nothing but the fucking NYT and then saying "Man, Americans are all gay brown retarded faggots lmao."
Speaking as an American, there are a few things that stand out as points of the UK, especially the government, we disdain. We're often appalled by how police operate and how people consider their relation to them; one of the most obvious differences is between cautioning that "anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law" and "it may harm your defense if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court" (yes, I did have to look up the wording on your version). Plus the whole "non-crime hate incident" thing. We also don't like the culture and law which doesn't respect an armed citizenry.

Of course, we can be more similar than we'd like to admit. There are people here who want hate speech to be a thing, and it's not just a matter of being vigilant at the highest level to prevent that; you need to fight it at every level because if shit has to go all the way up to the supreme court to get corrected, it will take multiple rounds of correction, be ignored by bad actors, and people will get fucked over in the mean time. And we have a whole contingent of people who have zero respect for the right to bear arms and would vote to amend it out of the constitution yesterday if given a chance. I know also that Null personally gets very peeved when useless antisocial retards are getting paid just to exist and cause him problems, but while the UK features prominently in that it by no means has a monopoly. All that said, even if to some extent we grapple with the same issues, the existing norms and codified law do count for a lot.

I think a lot of us are rooting for you guys to get your shit sorted out, but joined to that is varying degrees of belief that getting said shit sorted would naturally entail becoming more like us. I'm not going to comment on to what extent I think that would be necessary or desirable, I'm just trying to give a sense of where Americans are coming from. Last point: having a "no your country's browner and more fucked!" flame war should be considered embarrassing for all involved.
 
Good thing that never happens
I don't consider people on reddit to be human, let alone British.

Speaking as an American,
Yeah, the country is fucked. I don't think anyone is disputing that. The ignorance I'm talking about, is the idea that this was something we wanted, or voted for. It's not. Every single prime minister for the past 40 years has ran on a platform of 'no immigrants!', even the current one. I know people talk about the American uniparty, but the American uniparty is like a little baby to ours. The sheer level of entrenchment is mind blowing. Our swamp is like some Jurassic thing to the American 1800s mud. Our deep state is every part of our calcified government. It's such a disgusting gordian knot.

I know people meme about the fact that the most well armed nation on the planet hasn't done shit and has eaten nothing but 'fell for it again' awards, but I think America has more political avenues than the UK by far. You can get things done; you don't have to shoot politicians. Even starting a party in the UK at this point needs the government to let you. Tony Blaire - great fuckin shaitan that he is - caused this whole situation, and ideally will be boiled alive in horse piss. We had functional institutions, and functional civil services, but the labour party ideologically captured them, because a genuine psychopath got elected once. Shit was insane, the damage is genuinely hard to even describe in full. But it's like if all of Trumps opposition got to staff his government and all the individual components of it.
 
"anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law" and "it may harm your defense if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court" (yes, I did have to look up the wording on your version).
I don't know where you looked, but it's:
You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you fail to mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.
But it's true that the "may harm your defense" is absolute weasel wording to try and coax a confession to something.

The caution in 30+ years old (edit: you can smell Tony Blair on it), and to my knowledge, nobody has been ever been convicted for failing to mention something after they've been told they don't have to say anything....
*Taps watch, listens for clicking*
...yet.
 
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because a genuine psychopath got elected once
I'm aware that Blair radically reworked the larger justice system in the country by creating a supreme court, but I think I'm not fully aware of the damage he did. The fact that that change was one that made your government resemble ours a little more closely (although perhaps that's superficial, I don't know exactly what the court shares other than a name) kind of highlights a point I'd make: beware even Americans who seem to directionally want to right things for your country now because they will believe that the right outcome is for you to be more like us. In some ways I think that your position is enviable. You say
I think America has more political avenues than the UK by far. You can get things done; you don't have to shoot politicians. Even starting a party in the UK at this point needs the government to let you.
and that's probably true, but our issue is that we're so much more constrained in what outcomes can even be imagined. Restore Britain has at least some recognition of a British ethnicity and it managed to become a party that exists. Throughout Europe there's still the ability to appeal to the idea that e.g. Poland is the land of the Polish. The idea that one of the major parties in America could have a platform that acknowledges the existence of a white American ethnicity is kind of unimaginable, and it would certainly have to grapple with the equally extant black American ethnicity; today we would all so much rather never acknowledge such ideas nor try to work out some relationship between those two groups (segregation). Rather, we are on track for the black American ethnicity to be the canary in the coal mine which will be diluted out of all relevance by importation of complete foreigners (including Africans!) based on civic nationalism, and then in turn the white shall fall.

I do think that in a lot of ways our political system is very suited to purpose. Two parties gets things done, and doesn't it all boil down to us and them in the end? But aside from the easier philosophical and civic rationale for considering European ethnicities, a system with more parties also means greater odds that one of them can embody a vision which yesterday seemed unseeable. Restore already has some presence at least in local councils; despite not being platformed by the BBC and others pointedly avoiding their mention, such tactics work worse and worse. I hate to imagine I'm being optimistic in thinking that Restore might form part of a national government some day soon.

To some extent, surely the idea that Britons are of all colors and religions equally and without prejudice is merely an American (or even French) idea carelessly imported and indifferently applied, just like your BLM marches. Just as I feel our retarded political system is perfect for the hegemon, perhaps Europe indeed has the systems fit to its own natural purpose. Today, I am disgusted at the Europe which strives to be a leader in regulation, stifling speech and industry; tomorrow may my enemies blanch at the Europe which is a leader in regulating a state's population and identity and seeing the value in the history of its people, and yet whose union gives the template for a universal brotherhood of white Christendom.
 
For those who ride the short bus, Henry's murder and consequent arrest by the police was disgusting and the MSM, and Hampshire police, have admitted they have different guidelines for arrest depending on who they're arresting, for the sake of "diversity and equality", their words. They say they must treat people differently, for the sake of equality...

For the noticers, none of this passes the sniff test.
Tommeh is an Israeli-paid shill who pushes division of the British while denouncing BNP, White-nationalists and those who want a pure white country by calling them "nazi's" and "racists".
MSM calling for people to react the same way about Henry as George Floyd is a little on the nose. Demanding people take the knee and pay tributes is retarded. Neither should have their murder or self-inflicted dead, respectively, held up above others' murders or deaths.
Henry's father was Polish. Henry was a dual-citizen of Britain and Poland, no different from dual-citizen pakis, sihks and wogs. None of them should be in a 'British only Britain'. Hard to hear under the circumstances, but it's true, unless you're a hypocrit.

If you can't see that Britain is lost, then please, stay where you are, do not leave and 'fight' by getting mad online and posting mean tweets. Those who leave for a better life won't be coming back, ever.
They're calling it the most esl post of all time.

"The moors control Iberia, if you can't see that it is lost, then please, stay where you are." I don't understand you blackpilling faggots if shit is that bad why don't you just kill yourself, nothing will ever improve right?

Every other western country is going through the exact same situation, there aren't riots in America over that Ukranian that got stabbed or Austin metcalf, there are riots in france but that's over football. Your brain has been melted by pakistani rage bait twitter accounts and null's endless "anglo bad" schpiel. For the first time in modern political history the two party system has been broken and the leading party while not perfect is certainly better than anything that came before. Will things change overnight, no of course not but you can change that by actually being politically active and engaging with your community but seeing your post history you wouldn't do that because you're a spergy faggot who would alienate any normal person to your political cause. Enjoy whatever country you've decided to leech off, it'll be full of H1B's there soon before you know it and you'll just post more gay blackpilling shit from there too.
 
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I know people meme about the fact that the most well armed nation on the planet hasn't done shit and has eaten nothing but 'fell for it again' awards, but I think America has more political avenues than the UK by far. You can get things done; you don't have to shoot politicians. Even starting a party in the UK at this point needs the government to let you. Tony Blaire - great fuckin shaitan that he is - caused this whole situation, and ideally will be boiled alive in horse piss. We had functional institutions, and functional civil services, but the labour party ideologically captured them, because a genuine psychopath got elected once. Shit was insane, the damage is genuinely hard to even describe in full. But it's like if all of Trumps opposition got to staff his government and all the individual components of it.
If guns were cope, then why did your Evil goverment take them away?
 
and that's probably true, but our issue is that we're so much more constrained in what outcomes can even be imagined. Restore Britain has at least some recognition of a British ethnicity and it managed to become a party that exists. Throughout Europe there's still the ability to appeal to the idea that e.g. Poland is the land of the Polish. The idea that one of the major parties in America could have a platform that acknowledges the existence of a white American ethnicity is kind of unimaginable, and it would certainly have to grapple with the equally extant black American ethnicity; today we would all so much rather never acknowledge such ideas nor try to work out some relationship between those two groups (segregation). Rather, we are on track for the black American ethnicity to be the canary in the coal mine which will be diluted out of all relevance by importation of complete foreigners (including Africans!) based on civic nationalism, and then in turn the white shall fall.
Do not let nefarious actors corrupt your nation into a civic nation of creeds. The end goal of it, as proven in the American experiment is to make a country into an economic opportunity zone and treat the descendants of the people who built it as interchangeable cogs that can be slotted out with foreigners who have incompatible cultures and are from continents away that are also willing to work for cheaper wages. Any merits it has are too easy to distort and corrupt.

Treat whatever has happened to the USA as a cautionary tale as far as demographics are concerned and know that the men who founded it never intended it to be like what it is now:
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Save Britain while it still can be saved. The cause is righteous, the outrage is warranted and the passion is among the people. Consequences for failing in a such a titanic struggle will be vilification and being made to feel like a stranger in the house built by your forefathers.
 
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I know people meme about the fact that the most well armed nation on the planet hasn't done shit and has eaten nothing but 'fell for it again' awards, but I think America has more political avenues than the UK by far.
We ignore a lot more laws than you think we do. Governments just don't bring it up very often because it looks bad for them when they're incapable of enforcing their own policy. Guns especially. Chicago forced through an unconstitutional assault weapon registry a couple years ago which should have resulted in 3-4 million weapons being registered. I think they had about 20,000 before the program dropped out of the papers and people stopped talking about it. That's one of the biggest progressive bug hives in the country and they complied with their own gun safety laws to the tune of 0.5%.

A gun is a lot more than just a tool to kill someone with. Just the idea that it might exist completely changes how a government approaches their people. Every time a cop knocks on a door in the US, they know there's a 50/50 chance the person behind that door has the means to kill them in an instant if they felt so inclined, and could potentially kill many more in a properly planned ambush. Thanks to my going through the legal licensing processes, every time a police officer runs my license plate through their laptop, a big ass warning flashes that says "THIS PERSON IS LIKELY ARMED. APPROACH WITH CAUTION." This fear (respect) is why you see the occasional sheriff or police department in a state refusing to enforce some laws. The cops know that when they finally pass a law that crosses the line with people, it will be the cops enforcing those laws that die before the politicians that caused it.

Your cops don't fear or respect you. They don't even see you as a potential threat. IF, and I'm not encouraging it, but if you start getting violent with your local officials, they might change their approach. You could also do it diplomatically, but as many have said, it doesn't really matter who you vote for because they don't fear you and will fuck you anyways. They only treat the muslims the way they do is because they are afraid of them. If you want them to listen to you and not the muslims, you need them to fear you more than them. I feel like this is something Europe mastered for a long time, but for some reason, completely purged from the culture over the last 60 years.

A goal without a plan is a wish. - Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
 
I don't consider people on reddit to be human, let alone British.


Yeah, the country is fucked. I don't think anyone is disputing that. The ignorance I'm talking about, is the idea that this was something we wanted, or voted for. It's not. Every single prime minister for the past 40 years has ran on a platform of 'no immigrants!', even the current one. I know people talk about the American uniparty, but the American uniparty is like a little baby to ours. The sheer level of entrenchment is mind blowing. Our swamp is like some Jurassic thing to the American 1800s mud. Our deep state is every part of our calcified government. It's such a disgusting gordian knot.

I know people meme about the fact that the most well armed nation on the planet hasn't done shit and has eaten nothing but 'fell for it again' awards, but I think America has more political avenues than the UK by far. You can get things done; you don't have to shoot politicians. Even starting a party in the UK at this point needs the government to let you. Tony Blaire - great fuckin shaitan that he is - caused this whole situation, and ideally will be boiled alive in horse piss. We had functional institutions, and functional civil services, but the labour party ideologically captured them, because a genuine psychopath got elected once. Shit was insane, the damage is genuinely hard to even describe in full. But it's like if all of Trumps opposition got to staff his government and all the individual components of it.
Thatcher started the ball rolling and Blair kicked it down the street
The majority of this countries problems come from Thatcherite policy
Thatcher was the one who started the destruction of our manufacturing base
Thatcher was the one who started a war on the working class and middle classes to organize properly and not get squashed by the corporations
Thatcher was the one who politicized the police into the state it is in today
The only difference people didn't care until the state apparatus became hostile to the right and decided that boatwogs must be prioritized over the natives


 
Thatcher started the ball rolling and Blair kicked it down the street
The majority of this countries problems come from Thatcherite policy
Thatcher was the one who started the destruction of our manufacturing base
Thatcher was the one who started a war on the working class and middle classes to organize properly and not get squashed by the corporations
Thatcher was the one who politicized the police into the state it is in today
My most lefty opinion is that I fucking hate Thatcher. Those "unisex toilet" memes can be annoying because they're repeated ad nauseam but I would love to piss on that bitches grave.
 
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