Brianna Wu / John Flynt - Original Thread

What are you opinions on GamerGate and Brianna Wu / John Flynt?

  • I am of no opinion towards either.

    Votos: 104 8.6%

  • I am neutral on GamerGate, but think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votos: 631 52.1%

  • I am neutral on GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votos: 9 0.7%

  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, but still think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votos: 112 9.2%

  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votos: 37 3.1%

  • I am PRO-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votos: 309 25.5%

  • I am PRO-GamerGate, but still think that and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votos: 9 0.7%
  • Total de votantes
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Furina dijo:
In my experience 4chan is more of a gelatinous mass that can move in multiple directions at once. They have no leaders and act purely on the whims of a mob of anonymous individuals all acting with their own motivations. To say 4chan has any kind of inherit political leaning is foolish. Its a collectivist statement too broad to ever be true. It's like saying all black people are criminals. It can be true of a minority, but never the majority.

The reason I like 4chan, and I'm prepared for disagreements, is because it is the ultimate meritocracy. No one knows what your race, gender or sexuality are so all that matters is your argument. If you post on 4chan with a stupid argument and get called an idiot because of it, its not because everyone who disagreed with you is racist/sexist/transmisogynistic, it's because your argument was flawed. You can either improve your argument or accept that it was wrong and move on. There are no identity politics. No one cares if you're a polyamorous trans-gendered demisexual otherkin. No one gives a shit if you're depressed or overweight or came from a poor family. All that matters is your argument. No one will coddle you because you think the big mean world is against you. If you cannot reasonably pursued people that you are correct, you will be ignored or more likely insulted and then ignored.

The reason 4chan can often seem hostile to outsiders is because Reddit and Tumblr are used to using tactics other than pure reason to defend their arguments. Look at liberal progressives and their obsession with identity. You cannot say this because you are X. I can say this because I am Y. Z cannot be criticised because of reasons. You try pulling that shit on 4chan and you're going to have your shit pushed in so far you'll be tasting it for a month. No one cares who you are. You are Anonymous. Your argument is all that matters.

Anyway, Brianna Wu is like... bad. And stuff.
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All of these "radical liberal progressives" think in categories. (*) And I don't think they can't do otherwise, they need a 'us' and 'them', the way of thinking that is also the foundation for any sort of fanaticism/fascism. If you look at history and the way in which the media usually reports things these days, your quickly learn where people might picked up this black-and-white thinking.

People love their narratives and every narrative needs actors, groups and villains. Especially villains, neither the media and nor the SJWs can phantom, that in this day and age a bunch of people just "meet" in some online space, do a thing, then disband. These people need to put things into pigeon-holes, otherwise their brain would probably melt. It is not about who are the good guys and who are the bad guys, it's the idea that there is a group of good- or bad guys in the first place. It's about the fact that people think you can draw imaginary circles around a group of people and then attribute characteristics to them, that are not the most common denominator.

It is even difficult for most 'normal' people. I can't count the instances when I explained that, no "Anonymous" isn't actually a group and neither is "4chan" and those people usually have a hard time to wrap that around their head. The media especially craves something that fits the role of a "bad guy", at best it is bad guy that fits into some previously established narrative. They do that because these stories are simply sell better and easier than reporting the facts.

Somewhere something bad happens and less then half an hour later "experts" are pulled in front of the camera, who assume that "this attack had all the markings of" or "it is most likely that the shooter was" and while they are still guessing the media scours all their sources and the social media. And when they find anything that might underline the narrative they are trying to build/continue they leap at it without thinking. Just look at the picture where someone shopped a Koran into that selfie of that Anti-GGer, after the attacks on Paris. (Apparently there are journalists out there, that believe that the Koran with a build-in camera these days.)

It is also easier for the audience to eat up a "crazed shooter" or a "Islamic terrorist" than a mentally unstable and troubled person, that spiraled down into religious fundamentalism... because if that guy wasn't one of "them" he must have been one of "us", right?

Just look at the last 25 years: After the Soviet Union was gone, there was no more big boogeyman until Bin Laden and later they axed off that guy too. Now the only "Supervillain" the papers have is Kim Jong-Il, but no one takes that guy serious. They try to pin that label on Putin and although he got all the requirements, the label doesn't stick on him either.

Those narratives, SJWs hold so dear, fall apart, if you realize that -for instance- a thing like "GamerGate" consists out of people from all walks of life. The only thing they might have in common is "we want ethics in game-journalism" and suddenly arguments like "you are all living in your parents basement and your keyboard is buried under a dune of Cheetos-dust" just don't work anymore.


(*) See what I did there?
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Also: Merry Christmas. Yes, we start one day earlier here. ;)
 
The more I see Brianna the more I think she's just like a kid who's playing pretend about having a big, important job. All she does is spout off jargon ("my office" is probably the biggest one) in a desperate attempt to sound professional.
 
I hope she gets bored with videogames and turns to live action. I think it's the only other medium Socially Unconscious hasn't been forced into. (The cosplay doesn't count)

Reubin would finally get the chance to work with Wu-senpai. :heart-full:
 
Astute observations, John. You, too, are a white man and get away with being utterly reprehensible.

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I'd just like to take a moment to remind everyone about the true "reason for the season" - to celebrate the life and work of the greatest man ever to live, our savior and redeemer, Steve Jobs.
 
Peace and Harmony dijo:
Astute observations, John. You, too, are a white man and get away with being utterly reprehensible.

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No, you fucking idiot. How many times must this be said?
Tech is a meritocracy. Steve Jobs would still be as well known as he is even if he was black or a woman.
People are known for their products, not their gender. (Might explain why "the Godzilla of Tech Feminism" is a complete nobody)
Also, he was an Arab-American.
 
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Cynical dijo:
What a smug assed MAN:

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To be fair, Bri can go fuck a drill bit.
Yes yes, obvious tranny joke, you're very clever.

I do find this particular bit of indulgent navel-gazing interesting, because as it stands today, Jobs would have been better off as a black woman. When he fucked up countless times, losing everything and ending up nearing total ruin, all that was said was "Hey, that's business for you. He played the game and lost." When he made terrible decisions, people called him an incompetent dipshit. When he succeeded, people still made fun of what a spastic asshole he was.
Meanwhile, if he'd been a WOC in the current tech world? Any failure is the result of some nebulous forces loosely connected to "institutional sexism", and any criticism of a person's lackluster works is just unconscious bias. You can't fail, you can only be prevented from success by evil, invisible boogeymen. For example, Sunset isn't said to have tanked because it was a congealed lump of pretentious hipster bullshit, oh no, the patriarchy summoned an army of white cishet NEETs to destroy it from out of the goddamn ether.
Johnboy should probably come to terms with the fact that even if he hadn't chopped his dick off and got what appears to be discount plastic surgery from a blind paraplegic, he'd still be an embarrassing failure with a slowly collapsing career.
 
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