Brianna Wu / John Flynt - Original Thread

[Francis York Morgan]

I guess. If you spun it that way, you could say that Janeway was a megalomaniac who followed her dreams when she felt she was born in a Starfleet captain's body.

You could really spin it any way you want. The Voyager writers had no idea what they wanted out of Janeway so her characterization varied greatly between episodes. Even the actress was telling them to stick to something for her to work with.

 

[Smutley]

After failing at every single thing she has done, from animation to politics to college to making vidya to not being crazy, I hope whatever star struck feminist she "hires" likes working without getting paid.

 

[Cure Quanta]

You could really spin it any way you want. The Voyager writers had no idea what they wanted out of Janeway so her characterization varied greatly between episodes. Even the actress was telling them to stick to something for her to work with.

Wow. Now that describes how deep a hole they were in.

 

[Iamthatis]

I dunno, being allowed to wear logo tees because you've "seen the show?"

I guess. If you spun it that way, you could say that Janeway was a megalomaniac who followed her dreams when she felt she was born in a Starfleet captain's body.[/Q

I found this 2009 article posted on 8chan - http://boingboing.net/2009/08/24/crossed-genres-cover.html



Sexy KKK ninjas attack MLK with rocket launchers while sexy Revolution60 characters fite them because this shows Brianna was basically the only liberal truth teller in the entire south, as pitched to a web zine by her Actually Famous Sci/Fi Artist Husband.

Makes sense.

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According to the rpgcodex where I ganked the big image, this is "high resolution amazingly transformative art" but I don't think the poster knows what any of those words mean.

I just realized the women are Nazis! I think the Wu's may have themselves a WWII fetish. I could just Bri in full nazi regalia leading Frank around on leash.
(it's a real thing look it up)

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Wow. Now that describes how deep a hole they were in.

Not to get too off-topic, but Janeway's character problems are almost the exact same as the problems female characters face in video games. A woman in a modern video game can't just be one thing; no, she has to represent every single aspect of being a woman at all times. She has to be sensual yet chaste, confident but unsure, nurturing yet withdrawn, and so on. It's completely insane to believe that any character (or any person for that matter) could embody every vision of their gender at once but that's what is being expected of creators by Wu and her ilk. That's what happened with Janeway and it's why to this day I have no idea exactly who Janeway the character was supposed to be.

 

[Linako 2.0]

Is her game available for download somewhere? I'd like to review it.

It's an iOS exclusive and costs money.
you can find it in the Apple Store I believe

 

[Ruin]

Found Wu trying (poorly) to hype up her game via sockpuppet review.

http://nichegamer.net/reviews/revolution-60-review-an-engaging-experience-unlike-any-other/

 

[Cure Quanta]

Not to get too off-topic, but Janeway's character problems are almost the exact same as the problems female characters face in video games. A woman in a modern video game can't just be one thing; no, she has to represent every single aspect of being a woman at all times. She has to be sensual yet chaste, confident but unsure, nurturing yet withdrawn, and so on. It's completely insane to believe that any character (or any person for that matter) could embody every vision of their gender at once but that's what is being expected of creators by Wu and her ilk. That's what happened with Janeway and it's why to this day I have no idea exactly who Janeway the character was supposed to be.

No, I think it's totally relevant, since it highlights the difference between the people actually making effective, positive changes and the angry SJWs yelling at clouds. It absolutely matters since here's an example of it sabotaging whatever good will there was by thinking about all these things, and all these things in the wrong order.

Y'know, when I confronted the Emma Watson Creeper Guy, I made this comparison. That you can believe you're doing this amazing, forward, progressive thing when in reality you're ticking off boxes with all the passion of a man filling out forms to fill some dry legal requirement. "Ah, gee, whiz, I've filled out my flag-flying quota, now I can do whatever the hell I want!" And that's the exact same thing I'm sensing from all this. Revolution 60 passes the Bechdel Test. Golly gee willickers. Doesn't change its flaws. Story with branching dialogue? Mass Effect did it better. Multiple endings which can vary with a single choice you make? The Stanley Parable did it without a single fight sequence. Gesture-controlled touch screen gameplay? Epoch and Epoch 2 are the finest examples of that I've yet experienced.

Just look at that picture from several posts ago. "Ah, gee, whiz, I've filled out the requirements for this Martin Luther King thing, now I can do whatever the hell I want with it!" And then we get this picture that, if you didn't tell me was Brianna's idea, I would've sworn up and down was troll art. It could've been a statement on how Martin Luther King, Jr.'s ideals and hopes live well after his death, some kind of belief that the ideas of a man who championed a good cause are unkillable. And instead it's this utterly surreal scene someone would get painted on their van with her characters slapped all over it.

 

[Jaimas]

And she likes Rinoa Heartily, the most insipid FF female protagonist, too?! Jesus Christ, she has laughably bad taste.

It's worth noting that Tetsuya Nomura dislikes FFVIII, claiming he didn't really enjoy working on it and that Squall was a pretty crap protagonist. In Interviews with the guy, he essentially explains that Square-Enix wanted a darker protagonist for the game, and his initial ideas kept getting rejected so what we inevitably got was an RPG wherein we have one of the worst protagonists in history (he was humanized, thank the gods, in later works, especially Dissidia) paired with one of the most insufferable and irksome female characters of all time in Rinoa, a character who essentially serves as nothing more than a plot device. But it's a game Literally Wu likes, so it's fine.

Great, we've now run into the fucking video game equivalent of the fucking Twilight defense. Anyone else feel the need to bathe in Sodium Hydroxide now?

 

[Cure Quanta]

Great, we've now run into the fucking video game equivalent of the fucking Twilight defense. Anyone else feel the need to bathe in Sodium Hydroxide now?

Nah. I think we're right where we need to be, clearing the air, searching for the truth. We'll get weens and defenders and guys going all this way and that, but somebody's got to keep tabs of all of it, otherwise there's no way to distinguish opinion from fact.

So, really, it IS the equivalent of chronicling Twilight if you think about it...

 

[Linako 2.0]

Is it bad that I really want Harlan Ellison to go on a full gramp rant on Brianna Wu's Sci fi crap?

 

[Linako 2.0]

Found Wu trying (poorly) to hype up her game via sockpuppet review.

http://nichegamer.net/reviews/revolution-60-review-an-engaging-experience-unlike-any-other/

>Great characters that break stereotypes and provide depth
AAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Ruin]

I'm actually sort of surprised her ego let her rate it a mere 8.5/10, I imagine that was to avoid suspicion but then she ruined the charade by using her real pre transition name to write the review.

 

[Smutley]

It's worth noting that Tetsuya Nomura dislikes FFVIII, claiming he didn't really enjoy working on it and that Squall was a pretty crap protagonist. In Interviews with the guy, he essentially explains that Square-Enix wanted a darker protagonist for the game, and his initial ideas kept getting rejected so what we inevitably got was an RPG wherein we have one of the worst protagonists in history (he was humanized, thank the gods, in later works, especially Dissidia) paired with one of the most insufferable and irksome female characters of all time in Rinoa, a character who essentially serves as nothing more than a plot device. But it's a game Literally Wu likes, so it's fine.

Great, we've now run into the fucking video game equivalent of the fucking Twilight defense. Anyone else feel the need to bathe in Sodium Hydroxide now?

...

Never-mind that the "deep" and "amazing[ly] innovative" gameplay was so broken and so reviled that Square-Enix never used it again. The entire game was designed around grinding for magic, and if you put in a teeny bit of time to draw magic or convert cards you could be so overpowered you could steamroll the entire broken game.

Found Wu trying (poorly) to hype up her game via sockpuppet review.

http://nichegamer.net/reviews/revolution-60-review-an-engaging-experience-unlike-any-other/

I'm not seeing how this is a sockpuppet though? That guy who wrote the article has a twitter account with thousands of posts.

 

[Papaya23]

Found Wu trying (poorly) to hype up her game via sockpuppet review.

http://nichegamer.net/reviews/revolution-60-review-an-engaging-experience-unlike-any-other/

"Also, as there were spaceships in orbit, it would be neat to see Holiday in a on-rails vehicular combat section, aiming a reticule, dispatching enemies, and even Holiday defending herself from Leopard soldiers trying to take the cockpit."

What kind of review is this? Never once have I played a game and thought "but where is the on-rails vehicular combat section"? It's clearly a "look at the cool stuff I'm gonna do because I don't have much to talk about now"

Edit: FFVIII is also my favorite but because it's so campy and dramatic, not because muh social justice

 

[YI 457]

Found Wu trying (poorly) to hype up her game via sockpuppet review.

http://nichegamer.net/reviews/revolution-60-review-an-engaging-experience-unlike-any-other/

Revolution 60 is unlike anything I’ve played before in recent memory. It is a game that is about breaking the convention and doing something new. The game’s scenario, a potential threat to national security, is a trope...

And then I stopped reading.

 

[c-no]

https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/542019924856938496
Block block block

AND TIME FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT....

Wu proceeds to whine about Star Trek and how it has privileges and more!
https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/542037981557948417

https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/542042961509642240

https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/542047412832202753

https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/542049196870991873

AND IN CONCLUSION....
https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/542049688908996609

AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH
https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/542062486737154048
https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/542065687405940736

And like Homer, she comments about rape accusations
https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/542071813082464256
https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/542075306694414337
https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/542075590858526720

Now I'm not too familiar with Star Trek but wasn't it groundbreaking back then with diversity where you had a white man kiss a black woman? I'm sure anyone more familiar with the series can point out what made it special back then.

 

[YI 457]

Now I'm not too familiar with Star Trek but wasn't it groundbreaking back then with diversity where you had a white man kiss a black woman? I'm sure anyone more familiar with the series can point out what made it special back then.

She's just focusing for example on the fact that Kirk fucked everything at sight. She doesn't care about anything else.

 

[Damocles_Sword]

Squall was a borderline mute protagonist, Rinoa was...there..., the draw system was tedious, the junction system was a videogame atrocity, half the items in the game are sealed off due to the virtual pet memory card never being released, a lot of content was cut and it was painfully obvious, and you can go whole discs without having to fight regular enemies. All that and it's still a good game. 8 would have been the best of the PS trilogy had it not had it's arms tied behind it's back. Fun Fact: FF8 was developed alongside Parasite Eve and it's painfully obvious which game got Square's top writing team. Since Wu appears to be a gamer of that era, and a feminist, I'm surprised she she isn't evoking PE.

 

[Tin]

Now I'm not too familiar with Star Trek but wasn't it groundbreaking back then with diversity where you had a white man kiss a black woman? I'm sure anyone more familiar with the series can point out what made it special back then.

compared to other sci-fis going on in the 60's, this show seemed groundbreaking. (seriously i would love to see Wu rage about the gender roles in Lost in Space, or practically anything by Irwin Allen for that matter)