Brianna Wu / John Flynt - DEAGLE NATION STILL LIVES

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How long will Revolution 60 come to Steam?


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I've seen shitty RPG Maker games that made better profit to loss ratios than R60 that had even LESS effort put into them.

Lets remember undertale

I did a thing, and HOLY SHIT PEOPLE

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Hi, I sent this e-mail to you a few weeks back but I don't think you ever got it. I must have used the wrong address to do so. I hope resending you this again won't bother you.

Here is my message, unedited:


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Hi Brianna.

Please excuse me if this is the wrong channel to contact you. I know you have Twitter but I don't use it, and frankly I don't think it's the best medium for what I would like to ask of you.

First, let me contextualize what I need you to hear:

https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/684494983936786437

How can these game engines be considered "toys"? They can and are to many people their first door into game developing and the video game industry. Plenty of great games have arised from such "toy" engines: Hotline Miami, Undertale, LISA, OFF, Spelunky, Yume Nikki, etc. And three of them were released recently, so it's not like they are a fad from the 90s or 2000s.

In fact, a friend of mine is making her own game on her own, and I root for her to achieve that one day. Can you imagine how upset she would feel that her game could be considered a "toy" game just because of its engine?

I understand that you are an important figure in the tech industry, especially in relation to women and other minorities and their necessary inclusion in it.

So I ask you to please apologize for this. It can be disempowering to women out there such as my friend to hear such things. I know it was just a comment on the side, but it is like you said, "death by 1000 cuts", correct? I am sure you of all people don't want to keep participating in this cycle of unintentional bigotry.

In fact, if you are willing to do so, it would be very interesting to see you try working with such engines during your free time, after you ship Revolution 60. (By the way, while I may not particularly like you all the time, I think your game is awesome! Stoked for the PC release!) You are a software engineer and you once said you were "the leading expert on Unreal Engine" so I don't believe learning how to use these other engines would particularly be difficult for you.

I am sorry for my strong wording on this. I don't mean to offend you or place doubts on your professionalism and experience in such matters. I am just upset, really. And sorry again for possibly using the wrong channels to send you this message. Are there any other private ways I can reach you? I just don't really like Twitter, to be honest.

Thanks for listening and have a good day,

Joana Voadora


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Joana,

While I can appreciate the spirit in which this was sent, I want you to consider a different perspective than your friend. I want you to consider what it’s like to be Brianna Wu.

The constant harassment of Gamergate has become a part of my life that no one seems to really care about anymore. Last week, I was doxed to more than 15,000 people. There’s no press, it’s a just a normal part of being a woman in a field I used to love. It’s affected my happiness and my health deeply.

I need to tell you, what’s currently damage me just as much is people that supposedly have my same values insisting I agree with them on everything, and harassing me if I don’t. While your letter isn’t harassment, it’s part of this demand for ideological purity that is tremendously draining to me. Two weeks ago, I said something vaguely positive about capitalism while simultaneously critiquing it, and was bullied for two days left by a rabid leftist mob..

This kind of mob punishment of anyone deemed ideologically impure isn’t a good trait for the right, and it’s not good for the left.

The left owns academia. The left owns youth culture. But the left has an uphill battle in corporate institutions in tech where the power and policy is currently set. I’m not a rebel indie dev living off crowdfunded support, or an academic producing feminist media. I’m a businesswoman that secures capital and pays people money to produce creative content. That may not be your dream, but it’s mine - and we deeply need women like me building companies and working to improve these institutions.

I have fought tooth and nail inside these institutions, in battles that really only cost me career, sanity and access. I can point to many direct policy changes I helped shape. These are things I am positioned to do that other feminists can’t - because they don’t work here.

But today, I worked a 12 hour day, and I’m getting a second email from you demanding a response to a sin you perceive.

I am tired, Joana. I’m burnt. And this letter just makes me want to quit because what is the fucking point?

I’ve never met Jason, the man in that Tweet you’re angry about. But he’s someone I deeply treasure in my life. He’s a positive presence, and someone with a kind word. From my perspective, I was having a private conversation with a friend, and you and demanding I atone for that opinion.

I want to share what I mean by calling it a toy.

I was homeless after my parents disowned me. I’ve never finished college actually, because with three classes left, they left me without any ability to eat, bathe or clothe myself. I was living out of my car for over a month.

The one reason I was able to get a foothold and not die were the tech skills I had developed. I’m 38 now. I think I toured 20 colleges last year, and students often ask me what they should study. From that experience, I think it’s important to develop tech skills with wide commercial applications.

Those engines are great to learn on - but they are not time investments that you will be able to pay your rent with. That is the comment I was making to my friend and not to the public. Do you really require a pound of flesh for this today?

I do not belong to you.
Brianna Wu

1. John finally admit that the capitalist tweet was a super terrible idea, only god knows how many bridges he burned that day

2."I’m not a rebel indie dev living off crowdfunded support", John you made "donate to my patreon" a meme

3. Now that John admit that he was disowned he is going to try to get pity points for that even mixing it with the lie that he was adopted

4."I am tired, Joana. I’m burnt. And this letter just makes me want to quit because what is the fucking point?" , frame this part on your house, this is the excuse that john is going to use next week to delay revolution 60

5."The one reason I was able to get a foothold and not die were the tech skills I had developed.", nein John you learned Unreal when you were training your team to do Revolution 60 on iOs, until then you were a crazy tranny that manage to get a crazy asshole with money as a husband

6."I was homeless after my parents disowned me. I’ve never finished college actually, because with three classes left, they left me without any ability to eat, bathe or clothe myself. I was living out of my car for over a month.", John they disowned you because you failed college a lot of times and your reputation in there was not the best, you got addicted to drugs, you burned 200k in a failed animation studio, and you still wanted for them to keep paying for your delusions? like really? you must worship frank right now, without him i'm pretty sure you would be Prototype ADF

7."but they are not time investments that you will be able to pay your rent with." , John you have never EVER payed rent.

tl;dr almost all of this are lies, everything is in the lolcow wiki 2/10 john, don't worry the 2 points are a courtesy for me, and for giving us more material

22/01 WILL HAPPEN JOHN
 
You should note that Wu is even worse, given how she normally draws and when she traces like the image above.

Agreed. Even in Wu's traced image she can't help but emulate her own style by making the cheeks fuller and the neck stretching Rev60 Style. At first I thought she was improving, but sadly she was just copying. Should have known from a shameless and compulsive liar like Wu.
 
Blaming your parents for not graduating when it was really because you're human trash that spent 10 years in a 4 year college because you were a drug addicted dumbass is really fucking professional.
What you just said gets right to the heart of what makes Brianna Wu such a piece of shit and a compelling lolcow to follow.

Brianna, you are an adult. You have the agency and abilities to avoid all of these "hardships" you supposedly endure. You chose to not finish college because it was too hard for you. You keep getting "harassed" on the Internet because you spend every waking moment on Twitter looking for it. You are not finishing your game because it's finally hit you that you squandered yet another opportunity of a lifetime and your quest for venture capital is little more than you looking for someone to come save you from your mistakes. Essentially, all you want is to be spoiled and praised by everyone while not having to worry about those scary responsibilities that come with being an adult. Brianna Wu, you are exactly like Christian Weston Chandler.
 
So yeah, Brianna. If your story is true (which I doubt) you aren't a martyr. You are just a spoiled brat who couldn't put in anything beyond the minimum amount of effort.

Chris-Chan is a spoiled brat who couldn't put in anything beyond the minimum amount of effort, but actually got his degree.

John Walker Flynt is a spoiled brat who couldn't even be bothered to do the bare minimum.

For that matter, Chris has also managed to maintain a relationship with both parents. So Chris outdoes Wu in that regard, too.

Wu is actually pretty subhuman compared to Chris.
 
So Chris also has more artistic integrity than Brianna Wu.

Holy shit, people.

In other news, the Email Correspondence is up, discussion of it's on the Wiki, and it has its own article.

I've also taken the liberty of feeding it to /cow/.
Thank you for calling attention to a little detail that we're overlooking in that ocean of salt, by the way.

In this email, Brianna is being called on to answer from her perspective as a game developer and she never does. She doesn't even refer to herself as a software engineer as she normally is fond of doing. Instead, she calls herself a businesswoman who pays others for content. That might be a tacit admission to her taking credit for other people's work.
 
Instead, she calls herself a businesswoman who pays others for content.

If tweeting all day about being oppressed, having an unavailable shit product that no one liked in the first place, fucking up time tables nonstop and being the the most unlikable person in the room is her business daily routine, then I question her ability to lead any change for women in tech.
 
For what it's worth, I do believe Brianna's story that her third college dropout was due to being disowned by her parents - or maybe her disowning them in a supreme fit of brattiness. We're talking about someone who has never once taken responsibility for her own life. It's very likely that when she was faced with adult responsibilities like registering for classes all by herself or finding an apartment, she just froze and began the Homeless Saga.
 
For what it's worth, I do believe Brianna's story that her third college dropout was due to being disowned by her parents - or maybe her disowning them in a supreme fit of brattiness. We're talking about someone who has never once taken responsibility for her own life. It's very likely that when she was faced with adult responsibilities like registering for classes all by herself or finding an apartment, she just froze and began the Homeless Saga.

John took them for a ride financially for years of dropping in and out of college, $200K for a "business venture" that John basically squandered like an idiot, and apparently they finally pulled the plug. Rather than get a job, John decided they were no longer of any use to him so made up some lies and disconnected.
 
Thank you for calling attention to a little detail that we're overlooking in that ocean of salt, by the way.

In this email, Brianna is being called on to answer from her perspective as a game developer and she never does. She doesn't even refer to herself as a software engineer as she normally is fond of doing. Instead, she calls herself a businesswoman who pays others for content. That might be a tacit admission to her taking credit for other people's work.

She's been trying to back out of "game developer" for a while, when convenient. Many months ago she said she was a "producer" or something, and that developers were people she highly respected and necessary to make games but she wasn't one of them.

Of course, when it's "women-in-tech" she's totes a game developer.

Speaking of Chris Chan and Bri Flynt, it's amazing how both of them assume random emailers are most likely to be trolls.
 
I absolutely love that when confronted in a calm and reasonable manner on logical inconsistencies in her arguments, she simply moans on about her problems which nobody brought up and then try to imply your email is part of the problem.

She literally cannot take even the slightest hint of criticism, the stupid bitch
 
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https://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/689554712736206848

During this roughly two day "break", John has tweeted 30 times - 21 from his Isometric podcast account and 9 from his private account.

And as mentioned before, he has also troll-posted 10 times over at a Star Trek message board. He started the thread, then went on to later comment "I don’t particularly want to discuss this topic here." Right, John, that's why you started the troll-thread - because you didn't want to discuss the topic there.

Keep bringing the lolcow antics, big guy.
 
In fact, I struggle to think of a really successful, properly indie game built on the big 3D engines like Unreal or Unity. There have been plenty of successful Unity games, things like Hearthstone and Wasteland 2 for example, but they all tend to be larger productions with significant budgets.
So whats your definition of an indie game? Is it the style? The budget? The price? Made by a small team? Not made by a big studio?
For me an indie game can be a game that is a studios first game.
Chivalry can fit in that catagory well and it was made with Unreal engine.
Goat Simulator is another Unreal game that I would consider indie.
From what i understand the newer Guilty Gear had a small team working on it even though its from a large studio.
Tripwire Interactive only has 50 employees so Killing Floor 2?
Mighty No. 9 uses Unreal.
Moonbase Alpha?
Rocket League?
Rock of Ages?
Sanctum 1 and 2?
Unmechanical?
Viscera Cleanup Detail?
Zeno Clash 2?

Thanks for the praises guys. I really wasn't expecting Wu to reply, especially since I used a throwaway e-mail. Should I reply back?

What makes me mad though, is that I should listen to her instead of my friend. That friend is @wheat pasta and she is making a pretty cool pet project on RPG Maker and I hope she suceeds at it.

Sorry, Wu. My friends aren't six foot tall narcissitic ghoulified tranny harpies who can't accept a different opinion other than theirs. Try again.

@Jaimas feel free to add this on the wiki and send it to Milo or whatever.

Also "Joana Voadora" is a Portuguese variant of John Flynt :^)
You should press her on what policies she has changed. She usually loves to tout what shes doing in backchannel to show that shes actually doing something. Maybe if you kiss her ass a little shell open up more.

I knew it. That is where her traced image comes from:

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/brianna-wu-john-flynt.6034/page-973#post-1190098

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Can someone with photoshop skills do an overlay to see if its actually traced perfectly? Thats stuff professional artists will get fired for.
 
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