💰 Grifter Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger, lied about having cancer and being molested. Cohost of fake drama show "Lolcow Live (LCL)". Just WILL NOT die.

[bravosouth]

I noticed that Boogie re-tweeted a thank you from his brother Bryan, and also mentioned a book of his? Turns out both these brothers consider themselves literarily inclined, oh boy this is something else haha.



Here's the main page description, any chance you think Bryan fancies himself 'Ryan'? He literally just dropped the first letter, LOL. Methinks maybe there's a little bit of narcissism in the entire Williams family tree, not just in Boogie. Better prep yourselves, here comes the good stuff!

Spoiler: Chapter 1 excerpt

She once told me, 'I can't pass up good dick if you're around, I just want you. And sometimes I can't seem to spread my legs wide enough for you. If I'm getting pounded deep and slow, then I would probably cum before you.'

Said no woman ever. Jesus christ, and this is only chapter 1? Thankfully the chapter 2 excerpt is a lot less sex-driven...

Spoiler: Chapter 2 excerpt

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

They're all fucking perverts. Die Boogie and Boogie's brother.

 

[ddlloo]

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I noticed that Boogie re-tweeted a thank you from his brother Bryan, and also mentioned a book of his? Turns out both these brothers consider themselves literarily inclined, oh boy this is something else haha.

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Here's the main page description, any chance you think Bryan fancies himself 'Ryan'? He literally just dropped the first letter, LOL. Methinks maybe there's a little bit of narcissism in the entire Williams family tree, not just in Boogie. Better prep yourselves, here comes the good stuff!

Spoiler: Chapter 1 excerpt

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She once told me, 'I can't pass up good dick if you're around, I just want you. And sometimes I can't seem to spread my legs wide enough for you. If I'm getting pounded deep and slow, then I would probably cum before you.'

Said no woman ever. Jesus christ, and this is only chapter 1? Thankfully the chapter 2 excerpt is a lot less sex-driven...

Spoiler: Chapter 2 excerpt

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Spotted a typo in the blurb (which was describing the whole fucking plot!) and noped out. What trash.

 

[deadniggerstorage]

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I noticed that Boogie re-tweeted a thank you from his brother Bryan, and also mentioned a book of his? Turns out both these brothers consider themselves literarily inclined, oh boy this is something else haha.

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Here's the main page description, any chance you think Bryan fancies himself 'Ryan'? He literally just dropped the first letter, LOL. Methinks maybe there's a little bit of narcissism in the entire Williams family tree, not just in Boogie. Better prep yourselves, here comes the good stuff!

Spoiler: Chapter 1 excerpt

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She once told me, 'I can't pass up good dick if you're around, I just want you. And sometimes I can't seem to spread my legs wide enough for you. If I'm getting pounded deep and slow, then I would probably cum before you.'

Said no woman ever. Jesus christ, and this is only chapter 1? Thankfully the chapter 2 excerpt is a lot less sex-driven...

Spoiler: Chapter 2 excerpt

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This is really weird stuff. In Chapter 1 he mentioned that Buddy, the father of this girl, reminded him of his grandfather "Daddy Carl". It is hard to look at this as anything other than a very strange fanfic about himself. His name minus one letter and his father/grandfather's name is just too much of a coincidence. Oh man, if "Buddy" is an insert for "Boogie"... yuck..

Reminds me of when Boogie wrote that weird story about the guy with the pearly white teeth and electric car who like performed some cannibalistic ritual on his wife or some shit, who had his sister's name, by the way. I'll try to find it. It's awful. He uploaded it to YT, it was the cabin story.

Boogie's, um, "autobiography" is my favorite out of the beautiful literary works of the perverts Williams, though. "My dad, when he wasn't molesting one of us, was overwhelmingly charming."

Or who could forget that one blog he made, the 500 pounder or whatever? "We'll pick up on the first time my mother hit me", was it?

I wonder what the fuck is wrong with them, I initially thought his brother was normal based on the presumption he was a doctor, but obviously he's not like that. There's also that call where he and Boogie talked about their dicks like they were teenagers (I can't find the stream for this right now) And keep in mind he's almost 60. Edit: in chapter 2 he is talking about 'less "woke" times'. I'm only skimming. These two are fucked up.

Just really weird shit. Two men in their fifties acting this way. It's just wrong to see.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

Maybe they were incestuous. They're both gross.

 

[bravosouth]

This is really weird stuff. In Chapter 1 he mentioned that Buddy, the father of this girl, reminded him of his grandfather "Daddy Carl". It is hard to look at this as anything other than a very strange fanfic about himself. His name minus one letter and his father/grandfather's name is just too much of a coincidence. Oh man, if "Buddy" is an insert for "Boogie"... yuck..

You nailed it, I'm convinced this is just a grown man writing his own fanfic rofl.

Reminds me of when Boogie wrote that weird story about the guy with the pearly white teeth and electric car who like performed some cannibalistic ritual on his wife or some shit, who had his sister's name, by the way. I'll try to find it. It's awful. He uploaded it to YT, it was the cabin story.

This is what I was mostly referring to, his whole writing 'style' is so clearly an attempt to mimic his favourite author Stephen King. As a big fan of King's Dark Tower and related books, I can't express how painful it was forcing myself through that absolute slop that he was so proud of.

EDIT:



Looks like the second brother interview is gonna drop today, oh joy!

 

[YaBoi]

Spotted a typo in the blurb (which was describing the whole fucking plot!) and noped out. What trash.

Was thinking the same thing! He just kept giving away the plot, was wondering when he would stop but he kept going. Might as well read the last few chapters based off all the information he gave away. I was expecting some kind of medical book but uh, yeah okay. I guess his brother is a hyper-sexual fiend as well. Suppose that makes sense when Boogie and him discussed the prostitute nudes which Boogie sent him.

EDIT:

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Looks like the second brother interview is gonna drop today, oh joy!

Oh boy. Because his blogs, countless videos, Twitch steams, tweets, Reddit posts and constant trauma dumping on livestreams wasn't enough, we need not one but two interviews with his fucking brother. Can't wait to hear further retcons to the Boogie Lore. 10 days between uploads btw.

 

[Officer Barbrady]

Oh man, if "Buddy" is an insert for "Boogie"... yuck.. - @deadniggerstorage

Let's just drop this here...

 

[thejackal2]

Let's just drop this here...
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Plot twist: it was boogie and his brother molesting their sister.

 

[Marc83]

Maybe they were incestuous. They're both gross.

Holly shit that actually makes a lot of sense, this is the first time I’ve come across this theory on here, but it would explain a lot.

 

[DontEatThat_2.0]

Plot twist: it was boogie and his brother molesting their sister.

Now with this shit going on, I could kind of believe it. I can see Bryan kind of pushing the ideals on Boogie about women and thinking they were both alpha men in general. Once he left he had no idea what was going on and Boogie, living his true nature as a lecherous, lazy, unethical, fat fuck amounted to nothing in his life more or less blamed their mother and his brother kind of went "Sounds legit" to him due to them having such a shitty view on women.

While Bryan has lived and taken a normal life and seemed to be doing well, he somewhat feels Boogie should be in the same boat as him and should be on the same level. While I also believe his parents kind of spoiled him to a bit and at worst gave him a spanking or a harsh scolding for being a spoiled fat fuck; his brother could of been an enabler in itself.while he was apart. Its just funny how hes always willing to participate in sucking his cock while their own sister wants nothing to do with them.

I look at it as, Bryan tried to be a "big brother" to Boogie and it gets to this point. They both hated their mother and for whatever reason disliked Clara (I kind of dispute the abuse claims on her at this point). While he did well, Boogie did not and he felt he could help him out, never really realizing the issue. Now here we are with two middle aged fuckers trying to figure out why the one who refuses to work or improve himself isnt living a better life and blaming it on external factors. Both of them are useless to society.

 

[Love Is Blue]

Plot twist: it was boogie and his brother molesting their sister.

boogie and his brother raped their dad under the table

 

[A Piece of Coal]

Two faggots. One massive faggot. The other has a PhD.

I guarantee Boogie has sent pics of MegaMind to him.

 

[YaBoi]

Plot twist: it was boogie and his brother molesting their sister.

See, now this makes it all make sense. "I never understood why they took her away and left me there." The tales of fake rape stories, the "being gaslit into believing he got molested" by Carla from his mother brother. Why is it that Boogie hates her so much? She ran away was taken away when she was 14 right? Actually have no idea what age she ran away, it was between 11-14. Boogie would be about 6 years younger than her and 8 years younger than Bryan. At most he was 8. At youngest he was 5. How would he remember anything other than what Bryan was feeding him if he was 5 years old?

This brings up another point which comes up quite a bit when it comes to his childhood: A lot of his information appears to come from Bryan. Considering that their mother was a manipulator and Boogie is a massive manipulator - What exactly is stopping Bryan from having the same tendencies? "Boogie this happened to you, Boogie that happened to you. Boogie, your evil bitch sister who I hate did this to you." It makes total sense that Bryan is the one who has fed Boogie false stories.

Neither one of them was accusing the father of rape, so where do the rape stories come from? Why invent this random story that his father raped his sister at the kitchen table? Why does she want nothing to do with any of them? (Boogie makes sense, he accused her of raping him). Wouldn't she at least keep in touch with Bryan? Considering Bryan has been revealed to be just as much of a pervert as Boogie, I'm not ruling out incest under the Williams' roof - It just didn't happen the way Boogie described.

Also, friendly reminder that Boogie's sister called Bryan a gaslighter.

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Here's the brother interview. It literally starts off with a clip of Bryan throwing their mom under the bus:

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2:33: "I wanted to get a little bit more into our abusive childhood." - There it is boys. That's his ulterior motive for this podcast. Wah wah wah, boohoo. I had a bad childhood. Please confirm and enable me Bryan so my audience pities me the same way they did back in 2011. The sooner this faggot fades into irrelevancy the better.

Spoiler: Transcript

I'm gonna try something here. I'll paste the transcript from Youtube so you can Ctrl + F or search for any phrases in particular from the podcast (Edit: sorry had to cut it at the 1hr mark as I exceeded the character limit for a post):

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you know we were both heavily manipulated and but the manipulation on
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my side was to
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achieve what's up ladies and gentlemen of YouTube boogie2988 coming at your live once again to the power of the
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internet and you're listening to power of the internet if you're unfamiliar with the series it's my interview series I haven't done one in like a year but
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you'll find a list down below today I am interviewing my brother this is Dr Brian Lee Williams
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and we're coming off of the lcal live episode if you haven't seen that I'll link that down below as well Brian you
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did exceedingly well on that episode are youare of that thank you I enjoyed it
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yeah you should be doing more internet [ __ ] other than just like tweeting every once in a
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while you know I I I don't know I I've never felt like I was good on media but
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um this is kind of a different different environment and I enjoyed it plus stuff I was interested
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in so well this this is come coming from a man who's been keynote speaker to a bunch of ridiculous stuff at this point
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right like you've done speeches you've done presentations you've you've spoken for a living a lot of people don't know
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this uh especially if you're coming into this cold but my brother is an accredited Doctorate of
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epidemiology um and he's work do what in public health yeah yeah in public out
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this man has worked with the CDC this man has worked with all these different
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hor he's taught for God he taught like for a total 15 years 20 years almost 30
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almost 30 yeah wen't you a Dean at one point yeah I was an associate Dana research yeah I can't believe that man
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so for every bit of uh laziness and lay around the house and not do stuff Brian
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got out there and worked and so I always think of like Brian as example of
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somebody who really Rose to the challenge um I was someone who just kind
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of like got damaged and was like me I'm not g to do it and then our sister landed somewhere I think elsewhere you
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know I don't really like what a [ __ ] talk our sister or anything like that God God bless Carla if you ever see this stuff I appreciate everything you've
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ever done um that said we have some questions from fans
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today from people who wanted to follow up on your interview you uh with Tommy C
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and Jordy and I wanted to get a little bit more into our our abusive childhood past of
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course we went into the details during the interview but I've always
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wondered as accomplished as you are how much of it was you letting that
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damage hold you down like I did or how much of it was like you putting it to work to make you want to be better like
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in your mind how did that stuff affect you I don't know if I actually put it to
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work I actually think it was just a function of survival I don't think I had much of a
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choice it's either sink or swim um as I mentioned on our podcast you know I
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think my childhood while abusive was very different than
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yours yeah very abusive but there are things that um you know we were both
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heavily manipulated and but manipulation on my side was to achieve yeah and and so
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everything whereas the manipulation on your side was to be dependent on her yep yeah absolutely and so it was it two
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different two very different influences I think I think another thing
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that we don't really get into too much is I did not really have a masculine
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influence uh of course dad was very sick by the time I was a teenager um he had
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that the alcohol induced stroke or whatever you call what do you call that what exactly happened I've never really
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understood what exactly largely had intis late stage alcohols sephtis due
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from um vitamin deprivation a number of other things I think what caused the the
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the stroke like effect like what specifically well the brain just actually starts to swell and so
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everything goes gets short circuited I forget the actual clinical terminology but it happens uh quite frequently and
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you know people who were late stages of alcoholism he never had liver issues I know he had some kidney issues but um he
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was a candidate I guess probably for organ failure but uh this got him first
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and so um I never got the full story um I don't think I actually even read the
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medical reports I read the ones you know where you got lung cancer and die but not you know this one so I never got the
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full story and I never wanted to invest myself much into it because it just too damn depressing yeah yeah absolutely I
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was a sophomore in college or Junior in college and so it it's just you know everything went to hell after that
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especially so yeah well little support I got from home left yeah I can't imagine
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how what you're sophore of college and you just literally just got dropped into nothing cuz I can tell you back home mom
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was attempting to buy a house with Dad but their marriage was on the Rocks they were fighting all the time she was
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dating another man openly she was dating that Johnny guy and like dad knew about it so he was drinking harder than he's
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ever drank um and then the money dried up and mom was never good with money right am I mistaken about that that's
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what I remember for sure she was absolutely horrible you remember she rented a television she would always buy
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to own rent to own like TVs and stuff but also like in later in life couches
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and stuff I well that's the only way D her credit was so bad she never paid anybody back she made Donald Trump look
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like a um a good she never paid anybody back even when she had the money
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yeah I do remember I do remember distinctly several Repo Men showing up
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at our front doors you know well for the longest time you know we had the the company stores which you're you don't remember but in the 70s um especially
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company stores kind of operated like those predatory lending um they would get you so far in debt and
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the whole you know Dad would come home and his paycheck be virtually nothing yeah for a lot of you guys don't know um
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we're the sons of coal miners daddy Carl was a coal miner that's my mom's dad my dad was a coal miner um and so when we
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talk about The Comedy Store we're talking about the mining store uh the people that paid you would own a
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corporation and then you know they would take what you owe directly out of your check and of course the prices in their
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store was so much expensive than Walmart but they were mining in the hills of Kentucky so there ain't no Walmart you
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want you want something you probably got to go to the company store right yeah it was the only place to get a lot of stuff
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um and especially things like gas um when we had a gas shortage in the
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70s it was one of the few places you could get it and I mean the markup was really really high I'm sure but she you
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know she did that but she she always blamed it on Dad's drinking but PA Blue urban six-pack only
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cost so much money yeah yeah he drank what was the least trendy beer at the time and like PBR was trendy for a while
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um but at the time back then it wasn't it was the rot gut right like that was the Sheep beer and if the man drank
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anything harder than beer I remember it being wild turkey or Fireball which is also like the dirt cheapest stuff and
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then of course like occasionally he would come home with some moonshine I remember seeing it in jars he really
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didn't drink liquor in until later in his life um that's how the a lot of folks back then differentiate between
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being an alcoholic or not you weren't alcoholic if you drink beer but you're an alcoholic if you drank um Li liquor
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except for the last year or so of his life like once mom was openly cheating and stuff the liquor was still for
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special occasions like very very special occasions he would get like a moon of of Jar of moonshine and that would be under
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the couch where he slept oh that's interesting I don't think people probably don't know about that that's we should talk about that um but he it
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would be there for a year it would take forever for him to actually go through it um but yeah it I even in that house
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that Mom was attempting to buy Dad slept on the
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couch yeah why do you I have no idea why it was like that why was it like that
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well I tell you it was two things one of which um she always kept us in her room um originally oh yeah
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I 12 which is not great and then I moved into a bed in in the room which made it
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very difficult to be a 13-year-old if you know what I mean you know what we do you know um and it you know I'm sure
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that was and because I remember dad being upset about it I mean it was um
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but she did that it was a form of control and things like that too so um he always eventually and the other thing
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is because he did work odd hours you know a lot of times he would sleep through the day and go to work at night
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so then he would sleep in his bed um it depend on what shift but he was basically ostracized I mean she he was
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completely emasculated um and I never understood why allowed that but um I've
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done a lot of soul searching on that um and you and I are very different um I am
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the I don't know you you see it in other members of family too I think your boys to some degree uh your your oldest Cole
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he's a little bit tougher a little bit stronger a little bit more forward um that your youngest is a little bit more
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sensitive like me so I've always been like the the sensitive introvert you've always been the more like
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aggressive um extrovert I I just take it man like I you you watched my boxing
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match I just stood there and took it right um whereas you would stand up for yourself I think I have a lot in common
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with Dad in that regard hard because like you said during our original interview dad was a product of his
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Christian upbringing um he was a product of being raised in the hills of Kentucky you married for good you're just you're
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just good that's you die doing that whoever you married you die with that person right um and so I think maybe
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that was it but yeah I I I don't know it's very confusing because you he he was actually he boxed in Marine Corps
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was very good oh God I wish wish I'd known that going into my fight because I want what
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have triy to do go ahead I remember him teaching me how to box and stuff um but he was actually
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you know and really athletically was very solid um I remember even as a kid seeing him play basketball playing
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softball I know it's hard it's funny because he played with a hernia that he wouldn't get operated on for years he
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finally got it operated on but I remember seeing how good he was um and
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he was you know a skilled athlete but he I don't know what it was something broke
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him and I don't think it was Mom I think it was something you know deep inside
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but I think that's for me that's one of the biggest regrets that I ever have and I've written about it you know I never
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knew him at all yeah you know nothing about him nothing about what really made
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him tick you know I can remember just a few but what I knew about him or what
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you knew about him for the most part was always filtered through her yep of
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what she would say about him yep and that's you know that I I can't I mean we
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can't trust anything no no that woman lied you knew if her mouth was open she
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was probably lying and there could have been you know truths in what she said about him being abusive and things like that I I
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don't necessarily think that that wasn't true but by the same token I only know
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what I saw of him and I never saw the man violent no um he would act like he's going to be
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mad and stuff but I I remember getting in altercations with him I was a teenager and I'd shove him or whatever
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and he would never come back he would never hit me never hurt me and he probably I'm sure he could have oh sure
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um so it's I don't know it it's very I it's very confus I understand how
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people feel that have been abandoned by their father um because it we've were
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abandoned in a lot of ways even though he was there yeah yeah he was physically there but I mean most of the time he was
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deep inside a a beeram right right you know but you know like I said he was never bad during that time you know no
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he never always he was always a happy drunk and I you know and he was a very
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like he was extremely gentle with animals he loved every animal we ever
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had um I remember after he had his stroke I call it I don't know exactly
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what they call but I call it the stroke um he he he could he was Deaf from the
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mindes he couldn't talk very well you know he had the stutter the and then he give up you know um and
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I feel like if they had rehabilitated him more he might have gotten there I don't know if it was a health insurance
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thing I don't know if it was Mom's call but like they he did not get very far into Rehabilitation and they just gave
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up eventually like they stopped doing anything so I remember he was obsessed with
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um uh America's Funniest Home Videos because it had cute animals in it and even
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though he couldn't really hear the television or follow a television show very well anymore he would sit and watch that constantly so I started taping them
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and then when I would go to school i' put in like a six-h hour tape of those and just put him on the TV sometimes
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you'd watch him sometimes you wouldn't but you were gonna say I sorry to interrupt no he used to he love Mutual Omaha's W Kingdom which is an old show
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that used to be on on Sundays I remember that yeah like it was kind of the precursor like Steve Irwin's Crocodile
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Hunter and stuff yeah I I I remember him um fighting with mom to watch heaw and
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mutual of oma wall Kingdom at one point I remember him having an argument with her and she's like no we're watching
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this Carl and he's like Wanda feay I work 40 hours a week in a goddamn mind
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let me watch heha for one [ __ ] hour yeah argum yeah uh and we talk
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about him being passive I remember one night she wanted to go out to see Johnny and dad was absolutely against it and
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then he was against me going because it was like8 o'clock at night and he knew that I was going to be out all night um
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and so she ended up like splitting you remember he had like a cyst above his eye she split that cyst with a shoe and
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he didn't like fight back or anything he just went and took care of it it's like it's so I don't know it's so bizarre the
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man that I knew and to hear that he was a boxer to know that he was a Marine to know that in his words he spent his
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entire time in the Marine Corps drinking and getting [ __ ] it doesn't seem like the man I
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used to tell me he used to tell me too um when he would drink and then start
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talking about his Marine Corps days he he would talk about being a board ship and he would have to throw
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fights um purposely lose fights to some countries that they'd be in because they
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didn't want to upset the guest host oh that's so funny and I he would talk
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about for diplomatic relations I remember him saying it over and over again um he said the only reason I lost
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a fights because they made me do it so I'm sure he took a beating but it you know some of those pictures and I I'll
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have to find some of them I've scanned I think but physically he looked a lot
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like me he was you know he was about almost 510 5'11 he had a good body he
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wasn't that emaciated person that we always knew right yeah um I think when he died it wasn't like 99 PBS CH was
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cancer but yeah yeah but he he was so amazed and his um and I know that often
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happens to alcoholics when they have the instis but but anyhow he he physically
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was and cousin Kenny who just passed away and a couple other who knew him I
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remember them talking about him say God he was so much fun to be around he was you know and I never knew him never knew
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that part of him um and I'm I'm sure he never acted that way you know around
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mom no I can't I can't imagine I mean you said earlier that you felt like it
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wasn't Wanda Williams that broke him I think through 35 years of systematic
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abuse 40 years I forget exactly how long they were married but I think that woman was very very good at what she did um
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she was very good at like you know teaching Head Start and then coming home like teaching 30 people's other kids and
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taking care of them and feeding them and then coming home and neglecting us or Worse right neglect is a good day um and
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so I I don't know sometimes I think she just ended that man you know and maybe he was abusive at the beginning uh but
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boy did he pay for it if he was I I think it's also if it's kind of a classic alcoholic D
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um um situation or dynamic in that she enabled him in a lot of ways
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too so he knew that if she wasn't around he couldn't get by with a lot of stuff he did did um and so she fed him she did you
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know she kept things she did things that he didn't know how to do yeah um and I
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think he was scared of losing that um because he didn't you
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know I I I I'm sure there's many things he would I mean the time that she would abandon us and like just leave for days
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yeah um you know he didn't know how to do he didn't know how to cook he didn't know
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how to do Ian just basic stuff um to take care of us and so I think that was
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um you know that's that happens a lot in you know with alcoholics yeah somebody
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just because they you know they can help them live yeah it's so fascinating
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because then he seemed to be pretty good at the minds I mean it was only towards the end that um you know we started
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getting phone calls about him not showing up to work but he seemed to work hard in the Mars he knew what he was doing there and did a good job of it you
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know oh yeah at one point they wanted him to be a superintendent um yeah and he he did some stupid stuff he got
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busted for but I um but he could not handle the pressure of being a boss they
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made him a b and that was a big transition if you went from you know being a minor to foreman and because
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then you were a company person and made a lot more money relatively speaking and
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he just he started his ulcer started it just drove him insane yeah yeah I can't
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I couldn't imagine and he couldn't deal with it he couldn't deal with the pressure um so so we were talking about
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other masculine Role Models I I feel like we didn't talk very much about daddy Carl on the last episode and I
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think that is oh my gosh so I might edit that out and if I don't enjoy the free burp of people listening um but that
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said we didn't talk a lot about our grandfather which is Daddy Carl my mom's dad now my memory of daddy Carl is Cold
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Stone B badass MF coal miner kill you so much as look at you the reason I
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remember of him is that is because he threatened to kill me more times than he told me he loved me so yeah I'm I'm
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curious as to he am I mistaken he was a pretty masculine person right yeah I
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mean he was all about that bravado um you know especially during I mean he
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grew up in basically Logan County West Virginia which was the wild I mean where
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the coal mining Wars his dad was a sheriff I mean yeah he come that was just
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everything he was about um he took you kind of under his wing didn't
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he he did and you know and I have a lot of difficulty with that one um because
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in a lot of ways he saved me yeah um I I got a feeling he did in some ways he was
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a lot like Mom in that he did it as much for him as he did it for me as a
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grandson yeah he had done my um older we have an older cousin the one I told just passed
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away Kenny he's about 70 something now when we passed but Kenny was the
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firstborn son of mom's sister and um he kind of did the same thing with him
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because you know he had a he had a child a boy that was still born uh named Carl
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Jr and so it was devastating to him um when that boy died and so
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he kind of used I mean or wanted adopted us in a way um
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but I don't know there's you know she because she accused him of abuse and
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things like that I don't know how much of that was true yeah um you know I who knows um it's my
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understanding um this my memory again my memory is very very bad about a lot of this stuff as we've talked about many
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times um there's things that I just completely admitted that you had to remind me of for example but um my
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memory of it is that Dad car and MMA drank and when they drank they were very different people uh but then eventually
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they gave it up and they became uh nowhere near like as but that's you know mom's version of it but she's like you
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don't know them you don't know them because you don't know them when they drank they were monsters when they drank but I who knows oh I believe that I mean
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I believe they were I think I think she was kind of worse than he was
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UMO you mean our grandmother yeah yeah I mean I think I I never saw daddy Carl
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act like Mom I saw MMO act like Mom a lot um you know I talked to Aunt Bobby
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some but nobody you never know the whole story I I mean I you know Daddy Carl was
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a brawler I know that and he just loved you any excuse to fight yep um but he
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was also a womanizer and she supposedly slept around too but I think they were
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both very bad when they drank um and he drank up in the point he retired um until he's like
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65 and and he stopped just boom didn't
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smoke anymore didn't drink boom and he made her do the same
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thing um and she she would sneak and she would try to you know smoke behind his
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back and stuff but I only remember one time of him getting
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alcohol and it was up on jenkin's Mountain and some fight over something I
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don't know if he was fighting MMA or and and I just remember a few times I ever heard him cuss but he didn't
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curse and he said godamn it Alta and I remember him stopping at some little store and getting a um like a 32 oun of
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Budweiser and I remember see it in the refrigerator because we' never seen beer in the refrigerator so taboo yeah over
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there hell he didn't even drink sugar colas he drank you know he he diet seven up was the drink that I remember fresa
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or and the man I'll never forget uh you know Mom would drop me off there every once in a while and try to force some
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bonding time and we'd make it work he would go to Jay's and get a a bottle of
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Fresco or a bottle of Diet Sprite and then a half gallon of ice cream he split
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that half gallon ice cream down the middle with a knife a carton and all and then hand me one half and him the other
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half and we'd eat it out of the carton while watching television so that man ate more sugar than God and wouldn't
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drink diet sodas as weird as that was but he loved his he loved his ice cream in my memory but go but then again I was
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the fat little piggy of the family soon he might have been just trying to bond well no I did the same thing I did the same thing with him um but he um yeah he
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I mean he overall he was a very positive influence on me um yeah the things that
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hurt the most is when Mom would lie to him and he would believe her oh yeah y y
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and you know like you said he threatened to kill you he would say the same things to me and um you know especially he
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would say you think you're too good for us now that you went to school and I never ever thought that no never but he
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um I will correct I think you thought you were above the abuse which I want
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you to be I want you to be above the narcissistic horrific abuse that we were going through you thought you were
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separated from that and and didn't want to be back involved but you never thought you were better than anybody you just thought you survived that and
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didn't want to dip back into it that was my opinion of you yeah I mean but it just it it bothered me because I you
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know that was all I was about and I I knew that I you know um but I wanted him to believe
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because he was you know I we didn't have a dad to protect us from her you somebody would say something to her but
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she would do the exact same thing to you know with Dad um and she'd get in a fight and
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swear the dad did did that and I was there and you'd know she you it didn't happen no did daddy Carl like know know
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like did he know the extent of it did he know about the stabbings and the burnings and the beatings and the
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Hammers and getting your nose broken and all this did he know the extent of it I mean I'm sure that I told him and I said
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stuff but I don't think he ever um believed it or well let me say
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that it it's not that he ever I think it was just denial um it was it was the Loyalty
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Above All Else your kids and protect your kids yeah which I mean I understand that I
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mean again he he grew up in the land of the Hatfields of McCoy I mean that right
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yeah yeah yeah that's I mean it was a blood Feud everything was a damn blood
26:59
and so that was just his mentality um and you know I don't think
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he ever wanted to accept nor could he accept you know something like that um
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that his daughter did but I mean it was just always
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disappointing to me because he like I said he was our only only my only protector in a lot of ways right yeah
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and and there's only so much they can do and I think a part of it is like obviously loyalty too but even when
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you're that close to it or maybe especially because you're that close to it it is unbelievable I know that a lot
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of the people that are listening here um are listening to this because they're hoping you'll invalidate the things I
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said instead of validate it um because they don't believe me they cannot believe it um and I don't blame them
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because it is unbelievable I have trouble believing it I genuinely do I look back at and I think how could that
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have happened you know I I you know I struggle with that a lot
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because especially with my ex-wife and her and I were just talking about this this
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week you know I think I've said this a million times you may know what things
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like War are about but unless you're in Vietnam
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Iraq Afghanistan the Ukraine you you really don't understand what they went
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through um um you might be able to the the best that you can possibly do is is
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to be empathetic um and a lot of people choose
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not to be empathetic you're out of focus too by the way Boogie I don't know oh that be all right um but a lot of people
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choose and in my ex-wife will say things like and this was a big problem when we
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were with a kid she would say well you made that choice to do this well yeah
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yeah and sometimes I did sometimes I didn't and those choices were clouded by
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you know a a messed up mentality or a psyche and I was aware of it um but you
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know I it was never I with harm intended I wasn't trying to do something to hurt her hurt
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my kids or do no me I'm the advocate responsibility for it but people can't
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relate to an environment that is so foreign to them and you know I liken it to you know I I
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got a little Pitbull when I it was six months old and that Pitbull when I got it the one that's Tata you've seen it
29:38
and that Pitbull they try what they do is they they try to fight them when
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they're young if they're not aggressive they'll try to sell them or breed them if they're pretty
29:48
and she when I got her she had marks all over where she'd been chewed up and
29:54
stuff that dog would not get out of the truck when I got it she was so scared now this
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is a powerful muscular athletic dog and
30:06
but that dog had been so traumatized it changes and we know it changes your brain it affects your frontal lobe it
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affects how you your lack of emotional regulation it affects so many different things about you
30:21
and I see that in that dog she's eight years old now I see that in her now and dog years that's close to my age right
30:28
yeah I see the same impulses now has she gotten better oh my gosh yeah you know
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we got her little p and a friend when she was younger sugar the other dog and
30:39
but that story is a great parallel because you know how they teach pit bulls to fight often in the city here if
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they get them a white dog well what do I do to get her as a friend a white dog a
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pure white dog she's black dog and and those dogs occasionally will fight and
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it's horrible I can't imagine it's bloody and she Tata used to tear sugar
31:07
up now Sugar's a much bigger dog but sugar never had the trauma right right sugar just laidback
31:15
and she's actually what's called a dogo Argentina and she's a fighting dog bigger dog and you know for years
31:23
she would tear Sugar's ears up all these things and it was impulsive
31:28
but once she got through that reaction guess who's Lebanon sugar guess who
31:33
wants to go lay with sugar guess who's and it's hard for people to understand
31:39
that that was such an imprint on them that it will always be with
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them it's not an excuse I don't need you to believe me I don't need you to empath
31:50
I just need you to listen to me yeah I've said this a million times when it comes to the the the meltdowns I've had
31:57
public or whatever it's never an excuse I can tell you the reasons I did what I did I can tell you what my thought
32:03
processes was I can tell you why my thought processes are the way they are I can tell you my intention and I want to
32:09
tell you those things I want you to be able to understand but I never have any expectations that it will excuse any bad
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behavior you know well no because we always know we're suffering the consequences of it yeah and no matter
32:23
what and and and the truth is if you think about it there's far more pathological people out there that hide
32:29
it who had B worse backgrounds and so but they hide it for lots of reasons and
32:36
many of the reasons because when you do divulge it like you have and you've been been a public figure um but even me in
32:43
my job I mean some of the best universities when I've told them when I especially later on that I was going
32:48
through this or going through that they were some of the least understanding um
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and Elite institutions and I would say you know I'm I'm really dealing with you know some family stuff some depression or
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something and I would admit that to them thinking well they're in the medical sector they would understand it and
33:06
sometimes they were the most judgmental I could respect that actually
33:12
I can understand that it shows a crack in your armor because they have perceived you for so long as this guy
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who's intellectually you know does this does this and so it it's it's like
33:24
putting Chum into the water yep because it makes you vulnerable to them to attack and in your case you're
33:31
successful but when you admit something it makes you vulnerable to attack it's interesting because to look
33:37
at you um obviously we got uh some sort of genes in us that made me even
33:43
slightly attractive at 600 PBS you're a good-look guy you're clearly well spoken you're clearly intelligent to look at
33:50
you you would never know that you have that poison in you right uh and you referred to it that way I'm not putting
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that on you that's how describe right exactly yeah um I made it very visible
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you know how like certain leftist women who hate men get facial tattoos and
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shave their hair and dye it blue and it's one of their ways of saying stay the [ __ ] away from me this was one of my
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ways of saying stay the [ __ ] away from me right like obviously as we discussed in the episode mom fed me wrong on
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purpose it was part of the abuse but eventually I was an adult and I continue to self destruct self-destruct
34:28
self-destruct because of that poison in me but it it created this shield and
34:34
because of that in professional life when I was trying to get a job you remember I moved in with you I put in a hundred job applications in this area I
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tried to work at like a video store stocking video games how good at that would I be talking to customers about
34:48
video games all day hire me at Game Exchange or EB Games or one of these places I put in applications at all of
34:54
these places and they all turn me down and I can't help but think I'm decent in an interview I just don't look like a
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person supposed to look and I think that's a large part of it and eventually I did find work and I did that job for
35:09
four years at the University even well past when I dropped out of school it was student work they kept me on after I was
35:16
out of school um that's how much they liked me at that job so but I it's
35:21
interesting because I think a lot of people do not under they I think they vastly underestimate me um I know that
35:28
when I've broken up with women in the past it was always like you're breaking
35:33
up with me but look at you and I'm like hey look enough is enough like I can
35:39
only handle so much [ __ ] and they don't ever expect that they look at me and they see a doormat but I I think
35:46
especially with women I don't not want to be abusive to women of course you know you remember Danny My First
35:52
Girlfriend we often said we worked our crazy out on each other and I wouldn't really call it abusive but it certainly
35:57
was n't the way a relationship's supposed to be and so now I know my triggers I know what can cause me to be
36:05
a bad person and so most of the time I'm very much like that I'm extremely passive in a relationship yes ma'am no
36:11
ma'am thank you ma'am I'm just excited to be there let me slide that credit card you know I don't care but when you
36:17
find one of my boundaries it's steadfast and there I like I because I know if we go past that
36:24
boundary there's a chance I'm going to say things I do not want to say um and I
36:29
don't ever want to risk that I don't ever want to risk hurting somebody that I love so I would rather dump you than
36:34
to risk it does that make sense but it's always such a surprise because people vastly underestimate me because of it um
36:42
and I think with what you're describing is people discovering it the hard way you know either you're open about it and
36:48
they're like I don't know I thought he was like Superman because you look like Superman that's what I'm trying to say when you are in a work environment when
36:54
you're doing what you're doing you're muscular you're fit you're healthy you you're intelligent they they have to be
36:59
shocked to know that's in you you know they're shocked but I also have seen it now that I I don't put up a front
37:06
anymore when I've done interviews and stuff when I got out of Academia you know I have recruiters and stuff I do
37:11
all these interviews and stuff and I started wondering what the hell's wrong with me you know because I I never used
37:16
to even had to apply for a job I'd have people coming after me right and left and yeah but I realized one thing I did
37:23
realize is I'm just honest now I mean I don't front
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um my personality I don't front who I am and and the same thing is true with you
37:34
know any women I don't I am who I am um and it's t it takes a long time for
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people like me and you to get to that point yeah it it especially online and
37:46
and I'll I mean the one criticism I gave to you and you can cut it out of this if you want no probably not this is the one
37:53
thing that bothered me about the documentary because
37:58
that's not you no no obviously um but you you do get to that at certain times
38:05
and I I've watched you and where it appears to be a play for sympathy and
38:11
you're you're not that you've never really been that and I understand how it comes across I understand how it gets to
38:18
that point but what makes you and I think that's one of the reasons that you've had a
38:25
little you know some Resurgence on like LOL C live and things like that yeah yeah is you're your authentic self and
38:33
so when you're your authentic self people can identify with you um you know it's like the old saying
38:39
I mean I have six people that can carry my coffin afterwards but I got three [ __ ] that'll drag it oh yeah
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yeah and that's kind of where you and I have to get to that
38:53
point and I don't know if we ever get there because I don't know if it's ever in our ability to trust somebody that
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much to be that vulnerable because every time when people like you and I are
39:05
vulnerable it's used against us yep I uh as aapon I have a series of litmus tests
39:12
that um and this is narcissistic behavior I'm aware of that to go back to the documentary real quick um I do have
39:18
covert narcissistic Tools in my toolbox and that's because our mother would
39:24
attempt suicide for um for pity remember like I remember her getting her stomach
39:30
pumped several times several not once several times right and then she'd come into the room oh I just took every pill
39:37
in a house Carl you're gonna be so sorry right so you see that that tool ends up in your toolbox I try very hard not to
39:43
use it and it took a really long time for me to learn to get it out of my toolbox right so when we were making the
39:49
documentary we wanted to take the seeds of Truth and Blossom them into something more interesting because if you really
39:55
just sat down and interviewed me it's not that interesting right um the job interview which was obviously like a
40:02
setup bit sketch you remember that part that's probably the closest to the real me as I can be because as you said
40:08
earlier I no longer [ __ ] right so on my first dates I'm like look man I'm morbidly obes I'm addicted to video
40:14
games I spend my money on cardboard uh Magic the Gathering cards okay but if you want to go out and eat real good and
40:21
have very disappointing sex afterwards I'm your guy okay I'm really gentle I'm really sensitive I'm passive I like to
40:28
spoil the [ __ ] out of persons that's what you're going to get but you're going to have to deal with climbing a mountain of gelatinous fat at the end of
40:34
every meal okay that's just how it is if you if you can handle it let's do it right that that's the seed of truth that
40:40
I was the most proud of um and it's so funny to see people take it so seriously but this does tie into one of I so like
40:48
I said I have a series of questions from uh fans that watched the first episode
40:54
uh number one are you disappointed that I made my success the way that I did
40:59
specifically making myself the butt of the joke throughout my entire career no um not at all it's quite the
41:08
opposite um you know I think when you f there would be a
41:13
tendency to look at that you know my brother's exploting the fact that he was fat or whatever but in fact you used it
41:21
as a as as capital um it you know it was the folks
41:30
that were hating you so what um they you know virtually it's meaningless the
41:36
person love you okay but as I said the things that I'm most proud of I think
41:41
that you've had a dramatically positive effect on a portion of the population
41:47
and I hope so I hope so that I don't think I could do simply by the power of
41:53
the internet um you know I I think being able to show people that you can do
41:58
stuff I mean I I think that's the one thing about the internet being kind of the ultimate democracy if you're good or
42:05
their ultimate Capital if you're good you're gonna stay up yeah and you did
42:10
for much longer than a lot of people so I'm not even remote in fact I'm quite proud yeah 17 years into it and
42:18
somebody's still watching this episode so God bless the five of you that are watching it you know I mean it doesn't matter I mean at this point I mean it's
42:24
it you know when you if you affect one person uh if it makes you feel a little
42:31
bit better in the long run you know what fine but no no way embar I I I
42:38
see I mean you compare this to something like the Kardashians that people you know
42:44
that exploit the media for their own benefit all the time that had everything
42:49
given to them and they still keep taking and I'm not just trying to pick on one group I mean
42:57
you can't judge you're talking about the majority of celebrities at the end of the day right not all of them give back for sure yeah the internet celebrities
43:04
in general I mean that it's not about even just giving back is that they're not authentic they don't they're not
43:10
exposing themselves it takes somebody Really Brave to Expo expose
43:15
himself and you did that and you did it in comedy and stuff like that but you also
43:22
there's a lot of Truth in comedy yeah you know I grew up I grew up watching evening at The Improv a lot and
43:28
then I got into like interviews with a lot of Comedians and I watched a ton of the greats and the things that I
43:34
learned I learned so much from Louis CK even later um but like early on uh
43:40
especially like George Carlin and stuff they would talk about comedy has to start with you if you're not if you if
43:46
the audience can't laugh at you then they can't laugh at you and they can't laugh with you right so they have to be able to laugh at you most comedians will
43:52
open by dragging themselves especially in the 80s right and then once you made them disarmed and comfortable around you
43:58
then you can go into attacking whoever you want because they're on your side right right um so I learned to try to do
44:05
that um and Carlin taught you that it's uh as authentic as it can get and he
44:11
ended up telling Louis CK later in life that all this [ __ ] comedy you're
44:16
doing it's [ __ ] throw it out he says I want you to go home I want you to write an entire hourong special and then
44:21
I want you to throw it in the [ __ ] trash because whatever you write now Louie is garbage and then I want you to write something else and whatever that
44:28
is it's going to be more authentic and if it's not truly authentic throw that in the trash and get started again and
44:34
that's when Louis CK was good and if he kept his wiener in his pants I think he'd still be really good these days
44:40
right and honestly I've listened to the things that he's done since then and it's still funny um genius but the
44:45
closest parallel is look at Richard Pry Richard Pry had traumatically I mean grew up in a wh house was abused
44:51
sexually molested everything amazing I mean he went through had a hellacious existence
44:58
um and his albums his best albums are the ones talking about that in my opinion right and but he started out
45:04
trying to be like Bill Cosby because he was a mainstream comedian he was getting a lot of play for that but it wasn't
45:10
there's a documentary talks about this he he wasn't until he became authentic
45:16
and started talking about some of this trauma which you can imagine was hard to do in the 70s especially um you know that he actually
45:23
got more popular but it's uh some else I have curious this spawns from the the
45:29
questions for the longest time people knew me as Mr Rogers of the internet then they found out that I had a lot of
45:35
poison in me and they found out that I had that edge on me and they also found out that I was a disgusting pervert uh
45:41
not like in a a bad way but just like hey women are fun and I love women and adult women obviously but uh you know I
45:47
love women and women are cool and I I I worked in the adult industry for a while because I love women and um did what I
45:55
don't know in your opinion which is the real me the more l c me the more where I was trying to be as nice as
46:02
I could be I think you like my more offensive sense of humor but certainly I didn't do that in those days so what was
46:08
your what your thought process of those days when you would see that stuff online I mean I always enjoyed it I mean
46:15
I was always a lot older than you so it was kind of a different generation uh you know what you you find
46:20
funny versus but I always enjoyed it um but I what I enjoy enjoyed the most I
46:28
actually like the characters because the characters always are to me that that's
46:34
that takes a level of creativ creativision
46:57
angry playing video games so it's kind of it's kind of easy the other characters a little that were never near as successful the voices and stuff like
47:03
that I mean um you're the one who got me doing voices I don't know if you know that but even when I was like really
47:08
little at some point you came home from school and you told me that they didn't take you serious because of your accent
47:15
right and that if I wanted to be an actor and if I wanted to be successful I'd have to learn to speak like normal
47:20
people and if I remember correctly you even told me to like pay attention to the way they talk on television like the news like news so started doing that and
47:27
that's the voice I'm using right now this isn't my most authentic voice my most authentic Voice still has s to draw
47:33
in it um I go it's called code switching uh it's a phenomena that
47:41
happens often with inner city blacks who are successful and things like that out of your SL and dialect if you
47:49
end up in Southwest Virginia Kentucky in that area and I know you haven't in a while but when you did go back did you
47:57
find yourself immediately going into like fully switching back into Southern
48:02
draw like at some point we were at wood boogers up there in in in in Wise Virginia and I'm like and she's like y y
48:11
y'all want mozzarella sticks with that they're on the house and I'm like that's real nice of a sweetheart yeah I'll have some you know and why how why it's so
48:19
weird I feel like that is my more authentic self and I've just been hiding it I feel like if I moved back home i'
48:24
feel more comfortable just being a redneck on front yard you know shirtless it's just natural I do it here I do it
48:30
it depends on what crowd I'm in I do it when I'm my most dissociative so the way
48:36
that my PTSD seems to function is when I have something that triggers like
48:42
generational trauma stuff that we went through as kids um I will hit the eject
48:48
button mentally and I often just get very quiet I'll just kind of sit there I
48:53
won't do much of anything and if I'm pushed I'll ra my voice leave me the hell alone right that's me um but I if
49:02
I'm forced to have a conversation in that state it'll have a southern dialect
49:07
sometimes right and it's so shocking to people they're like why are you put why are you faking an accent I'm like I
49:13
promise you I ain't what the hell like so I don't know it's hard to make sense
49:18
of that but um yeah I I I don't know I part of that's something else I've
49:23
always wondered do you regret having been born in that part of the country living that way not at all not at all I
49:29
used to when I was young yeah um yeah right exactly I was because you're
49:35
thrust into an environment you're not ready for when you go um but there's so much about that that
49:43
was also positive oh yeah that you can't I
49:50
mean I can't even remotely think about what I would be without that
49:57
and it's also a part of America that Harley doesn't exist anymore nope no it
50:02
does I'll tell you it does still in St Paul and it's kind of insane we went
50:08
back there and I stayed overnight and you know where we stayed you know the the Baptist Church that was not too far
50:14
from the house mom was trying to buy not too far from the school cross the street from that used to be a funeral home that's been remodeled as an Airbnb yeah
50:21
know and so we stayed in that funeral home and it was creepy as [ __ ] I'm not going to lie but it was beautiful it was
50:26
really nice and we got to see the town and walk through it and we saw kids on their bikes just playing outside and I'm
50:33
like I ain't cannot tell you the last time I saw a group of five kids biking around I I live in a a safe Suburban
50:40
Arkansas neighborhood and I don't see yeah but it's still it's still not the same because there's no high school
50:46
there anymore um oh yeah that's true there's not that not the same identity you know there was never any fast food
50:53
chains or anything pizza was the only thing we had it wasn't even in our town no yeah um and they were isolated but in
51:00
a good way too I mean it was bad and good um but I would argue there's more
51:05
good than bad I think so um I think there's a lot of good things that they've done since then um you know
51:13
preserving some the history and the you know um utilizing the natural environment like the the river oh the
51:21
bike trails too they're beautiful but stuff like that but it's I don't regret
51:26
it at all because in fact I think it's it's quite I even I mean there's a part of me
51:34
that says it wouldn't be back to it be bad to live in there in my later years because no I'd like to retire there or
51:40
at least like maybe I don't know outside of Gatlinburg you know something like that but I would kill to to live in
51:45
those mountains me and Desi have talked about it quite a lot you know eventually the time will come that I'll sell this house you know I can't really keep it up
51:51
anymore and stuff like that and when we do I think Southwest Virginia would be a beautiful place to live of course have
51:56
that plot of land there too we could uh uh put a a cabin on that if we wanted to
52:02
yeah I my biggest scen is too damn cold um everything else I wouldn't care about but yeah those Winters were miserable
52:09
yeah and um but I yeah I remember going back about it's been about five or six
52:14
years ago when my friend Rob died and um it just a felt a piece a piece when I
52:21
was there yeah me too it feels like home now it didn't feel like home in the like
52:27
last 10 years that I left but it feels like home now does that make sense yeah yeah and I think a lot of it is what we
52:32
were experiencing in that area less than the area itself I have an interesting story I won't out the teacher here um
52:40
but I talked to one of our teachers on Facebook and asked her did you know what
52:47
was going on in her home and and if you did why didn't you do anything and this
52:52
person taught you as well and it took she read it and like a month to respond
52:57
but I finally got a response and a response was yeah I knew we all did that's why we
53:04
sent you upper bound to get away from that place for a while that's why I taught you to read so you could Escape
53:09
into books that's why I got you into after school activities that's why I did everything I could but there was only so
53:16
much we could do and I used to hate that answer especially when I first got it
53:21
but then I realized it's we're a product of Southwest Virginia people with hand more hands off especially in the late
53:27
70s early 80s um they did what they could do right that fit social confines
53:34
and look if I came to school with my face cut up or someone nearly died I'm sure they would have done more right but
53:41
it was like an it was a survivable level of abuse and I don't think they could really
53:46
truly understand what we were going through either so yeah I it was different in my situation because I
53:52
would have done everything to hide it um I did too yeah yeah the thought of them
53:57
knowing anything would have been Po and in fact I wanted to to think just the
54:02
opposite um and I didn't want him to you know but
54:08
again like I've said many times your situation was more dire than mine right I only ever spoke to them about it like
54:14
once and then I immediately recanted it because it got back to Mom you know yeah there's stuff like that that I was like
54:21
H you know I don't want and mine was different they actually
54:27
in some ways would use it against me to keep me out of um you know certain
54:33
things but that that's the small town kind that could have happened anywhere and I'm not even resentful of that
54:40
um because I think of the I mean there's a lot of things I think about a lot of the good things that
54:45
happen yeah me too and so I don't have any resentment whatsoever that leads me
54:51
into another question let's a little more upbeat they want to know um what was the favorite memory uh together as
54:58
kids I I can think of a few we had a few good ones uh one is a little less wholesome but I'm curious what you come
55:04
up with I I've already thought this through so I'll give you my answer and then you can come up with yours but um
55:09
one day we both got home after school and uh I wanted to watch Dukes of Hazard and you wanted to watch Happy
55:16
Days and so we got into a very brotherly wrestling match over the knob of that
55:23
shitty television no remote control right we're broke um and the knob would come off of this old television and so
55:30
you really couldn't turn it anymore without a pair of pliers can turn the knob to change the channel I grabbed
55:35
that knob and flung it out the front door once it was on Dukes of Hazard and you tackled me to the ground to try to
55:42
get it and and looking back on that um it also reminds me of us listening to
55:47
Queen um in Mom's bedroom uh just like
55:52
goofing off playing you lean the mattress against the wall I think you had me doing like a bowl thing running
55:58
towards a blanket and hitting the mattress and falling down on my ass and laughing and I mean that should really
56:04
tell you the age difference between us because I was four and you're certainly a teenager at that point um but I mean
56:12
we have I have almost exclusively good memories with you I don't have a bad one I I I racking my brain right now I can't
56:19
think of a bad one yeah one of the memories I have is I I had gone to
56:24
Myrtle Beach with Daddy Carl one time and um we always brought back like
56:30
something for gifts or something and I got you uh a uh Ernie
56:37
puppet oh that was you that was
56:43
you oh my God I didn't set that thing down and also I I found out that I'm on
56:49
the autism spectrum I chewed on that thing's ears constantly as some sort of stimulation and didn't know why but I
56:57
had that thing on my hand and if I wasn't I was sucking the ears off of it for some reason that was you that's
57:02
amazing and I have a couple another memory I have you one time
57:08
um we were over in cwood and you were and they were giving you a hard time
57:14
about someone's making fun of you or something and you were playing baseball
57:19
and you just knock the hell out of the ball um you got I don't if he like I
57:25
don't think did t-ball back then but I think it was regular but you just knocked the hell out of the ball and
57:32
like got on Bas I just remember being proud because they were giving you such a hard damn time yeah well I was blind
57:39
to [ __ ] um if you remember I was probably wearing that stupid eye patch they were putting on me no you were uh
57:47
the mellow yellow shirt there's a picture yeah with the m yellow team I love they had the yeah because it was um
57:53
you the cat so that'd be the M yellow team the Sprite team the coke team yeah our athletic team was brought to you by
57:59
the sweet delicious sugary Taste of Mello yellow that's insane um but no
58:04
that was that was the cool part about sports is I couldn't hit the ball to save my life but if I did it was gone
58:10
because I knew how to put my weight behind it even as a kid I think you taught me that certainly wasn't dad or
58:15
daddy Carlos it had to be you um it was funny but um there a couple on I
58:20
remember um but you know I I'm trying I mean I remember the day
58:27
you're born like it was yesterday it's my understanding didn't you and dad name me against mom I named
58:35
you you named me okay that's what I thought no I named you I don't know why
58:40
between that and Craig for some damn reason thank you for not naming me Craig
58:46
that's that's not a name I would does not I don't feel like a Craig I feel more like a boogie than a Craig honestly

Here's some comments:

Spoiler: Comments

I love how Boogie hearts one of the comments defending him drinking Mountain Dew even though he's meant to be taking a miracle drug to cure his weight loss. I guess fuck that guy for pointing it out:



Ha! Yeah. Good luck with that:



Poor Leo here doesn't realize what Bryan's book is about:



Boogie gets confronted on calling his brother about the plaque for his mother's grave. Completely changes his tune:



This right here is a prime example of acting one way in a moment when it benefitted him and then casually changing his tune years later when no one cares or remembers. Imagine how bad this would make him look if he posted that response on the mother's crypt video instead of during a podcast where no doubt he and Bryan were bashing her non-stop? I hate this manipulative faggot who wants it both ways all the time.

And this is why Boogie wanted to interview his brother on his channel as well as his podcast:



He saw the response so now he gets to manipulate Lolcow Live viewers as well as his audience. Why does a moment between siblings have to be shared on Youtube? Why isn't this a private phonecall or conversation? Of course Bryan is going to say that the documentary misrepresented Boogie, he's his original dickrider and enabler. Boogie greenlit the fucking thing after watching it back. When was the last time he saw Boogie? I've literally never seen a photo of those two together which implies that Boogie hasn't seen the dude in at least a decade, probably more. I don't even think he went to Boogie's wedding,

Remember this tweet?



That's his sister telling Boogie that she can't make his wedding. Also why are they bonding over "what a shitty borther they had"? Care to elaborate why Carla thinks he's shitty?

But how do we know this? The same could've been said about Boogie 7 years ago:



I trust nothing that a Williams has to say.

No, this just raises more questions:



Apparently Boogie getting his OG enabler on who wasn't there for any of Boogie's so-called abuse confirms everything?

Some sane comments amongst the trash. They've all been downvoted to the bottom though:




Sounds like Bryan just listens to Boogie whining and takes his liar brother at face value without checking the facts.

I thought this random recommended video was hilarious:



That's what this is. 2 manipulators trying to manipulate you into feeling bad for Boogie for 2 hours.

 

[diehardman]

From the Baited podcast last episode:

Colossal is Crazy gives his short opinion about Boogie:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=HDGd-IOqWLc

Spoiler: ARCHIVE

colossal-is-crazy-about-boogie-baited.mp4

I missed Colossal! He's hilarious. Thank you.

 

[deadniggerstorage]

@YaBoi "mom wasn't so great. If he wants her to have an unmarked grave I am ok with that."

Holy shit, that has to be top 5 worst things he's ever said. What a terrible thing to say about your own fucking mother.

 

[YaBoi]

@YaBoi

"mom wasn't so great. If he wants her to have an unmarked grave I am ok with that."

Holy shit, that has to be top 5 worst things he's ever said. What a terrible thing to say about your own fucking mother.

He is so outwardly despicable. Sits in front of her grave and fake cries for pity and views, puts on an act that he cares about her so much that he sends his brother a badass voicemail telling him to get a plaque for her grave. Then years later he reneges on it when he thinks no one remembers.

These are character moments for Steven. Moments for him to show that he’s a man of his word, that he feels strongly one way and isn’t easily swayed. Does he care about his mother like he claimed? Hell no. It’s all an act. He couldn’t care less, that’s why there was no plaque to begin with. That’s why he blamed his brother during the video. If you’re a drooling Boogie fan, then all of this makes Boogie look good and Boogie’s brother look bad. Years later he gets confronted by a commenter asking for a follow-up and he pretty much says “nah fuck that woman”.

So what if Bryan doesn’t want to get her a plaque? What about you? You’re the one who was supposedly outraged by this during the crypt video. You’re the one who should be getting the plaque sorted. The woman had been dead for 10 years by the time he filmed that video, I don’t really understand what shocking information could’ve come out about her to make Boogie change his tune. It’s simply a case of this faggot putting on an act and pretending to care in one moment to illicit a certain response from viewers but not really caring at all. It’s really dark and evil shit if you think about it.

Shout out to the other little white lie he slipped into the comment:

"Confronted him enough about it"

No Boogie. No you didn't. You never did. This is your way of waving this one off so no one asks you again because you've apparently "bothered him enough already."

 

[EgyptianTraveler]

you can't kill a titan of strength like boogie that easily

titan of strength...? boogie the man or simply boogie the heart? I think that's the only powerful muscle left in his body

 

[Professor_Mongoose]

This looks like a dialogue screen from a 90s RPG.

“So..,you’ve come before THE BOOGSTER to plead for your village…

…
…
…
HA HA HA!
Don’t you know THE BOOGSTER doesn’t share food? Though perhaps there is a deal we could strike….How many inbred teens are you prepared to offer me?

*ACCEPT
*NEGOTIATE
*ATTACK
*LEAVE

 

[ddlloo]

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This looks like a dialogue screen from a 90s RPG.

“So..,you’ve come before THE BOOGSTER to plead for your village…

…
…
…
HA HA HA!
Don’t you know THE BOOGSTER doesn’t share food? Though perhaps there is a deal we could strike….How many inbred teens are you prepared to offer me?

*ACCEPT
*NEGOTIATE
*ATTACK
*LEAVE

comma comma comma

God this fat fuck is so bad at everything.