Black Mirror - Dark Sci Fi Anthology Drama

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Necroing this shit because theres a new season, has anyone watched it? did they tone down the wokeshit from the last one or its still unbearable?
I'm a bad barometer for that, but I can say so far the only episodes I liked was the first and final ones, and that's purely because the concept was interesting.

First episode was what if quantum computer just fucked with your life for entertainment of others. Again, concept was good, but it really dragged out it's point.
Second episode was TrUe CrImE dOcUmEnTaRy BuT tHeY uNcOvEr ToO mUcH. The most boring episode, and within 5 minutes you know exactly how the episode plays out.
Third episode is why you don't let your coworkers hang out with your wife, even if you're both isolated in space and he watched his family be ritually murdered. This could have been 30 minutes long, and nothing important would have been removed from the plot.
Fourth episode is paparazzi chasing popstar who turns into a werewolf. Almost a happy ending, 3/4 paparazzi are brutally murdered. Mercifully short, decent twist, but the held out on the twist for too long and wrapped up the fun way too fast.
Fifth episode is woman accidently makes a pact with a demon, must commit murder. Could have used some trimming.

Overall, this is much better than last season, but that's a low bar. A general complaint is that somebody really needs to tighten up the scripts and shave them down a bit.
 
Saw almost every episode but the last one, The new season is bipolar for sure. The first episode of the new season sucks ass don't watch it.
 
That dude in the dress in the first one, man. Someone asked if they toned down the woke lol... I bailed when he and his bf were all catty talking about the show. Too bad, I liked some of the earlier episodes, especially the ESG Dallas Bryce one.
 
Oh shit it's out? Gonna grab it in a sec.
honestly, why even bother at this point?
it is unironically the /tv/ meme
Eh, even if the meme is spot on (innit), i still enjoy the show, even if the quality of the episodes is all over the place. The only iredeemably dogshit ep was the movie-length one with the bees. Not only was the plot exceptionally bad, they also had to cast Kelly fucking Macdonald as the leading role. Bitch must have sucked off every single ingerland movie exec to get in the business, fucking negative acting ability.
 
I actually really enjoyed this season, I felt it was a return to form. I was certain Loch Henry was going to be my favourite - I definitely didn't see the twist developing like that and it seemed like the tape was clearly referencing the Funkytown cartel video and Daisy's Destruction, which made it all the more bone chilling.

But hands down my favourite was Demon 79. I agree the pacing is a bit funny but it's a deliberate pastiche of Video Nasties. That opening shot with the slow zoom out as Nida leaves her house feels like something lifted directly from a 1970s British movie and I appreciated the really minor period accurate details like the use of an old Stork margarine contained for packed lunch. Apparently it's sort of a pilot for "Red Mirror", which would be a series that uses the past (instead of technology) for social commentary, which I'd very much like to see.

The weakest for me is probably Mazey Day - not because it was bad, it's just I liked all the other episodes better. The twist was fantastic and so unexpected but now I know the twist, it doesn't have really have any rewatch value (but I guess the purpose of TV shows is to be enjoyed when you watch them, not specifically made to be rewatched). Beyond The Sea was great and thankfully wasn't as predictable as I initially thought it would be, although the ending felt a bit like a cop out - nevertheless, it was mostly a great character study and Aaron Paul and Kate Mara did a fantastic job at acting. Joan Is Awful is incredibly stupid (in a good way) and Salma Hayek was a very good sport portraying a caricatured version of herself ("You know I don't read this crap! I am a dyslexic talented actress with questionable English!")

Honestly I think taking a break from doing Black Mirror over the pandemic has really refreshed Charlie Brooker - last season he definitely felt a bit like he was phoning it in, but he's taking some very entertaining risks and it's the first season since the British ones where I've felt there's no dud episodes. If - like me - you pirate pretty much everything, I do recommend using a friend's Netflix account to play Bandersnatch, which is the series that came out in 2018. They rebuilt Netflix's architecture for it; it's a really fun Choose Your Own Adventure game in classic Black Mirror style, set in 1980s Croydon. I don't think there'd be a way to experience it outside of Netflix.
 
It's better than season 5, which is a low bar. Some casting and bits feels distractingly Netflix woke. Shame that Charlie Brooker lost his edge, you could feel in some turns of the writing that his subconscious was itching to push his old humor style but held back.
 
90% of black mirror is hot garbage, and 10% is irreplacable kino.

Fifty Million Merits, White Christmas, Nosedive, Men Against Fire, Hang the DJ and 1/3rd of Black Museum are the only episodes actually worth watching more than once.

Black mirror has this habitual problem where it takes a good concept (arkangel, USS calister, be right back, Playtest, Shut up and dance, white bear, Crocodile, 2/3rds of Black Museum) but doesn't really bother developing it properly or thinkning it fully through. As a result its full of half assed episodes that seem good on first watch but fall apart on subsequent watches.

And ofc, that's not even mentioning episodes that are straight up irredeemable garbage. (Metalhead, National Anthem, San Junipiero, Waldo Movement, Hated in the Nation, the entirety of season 5, etc)


Haven't seen the new season yet so I can't comment on it, didn't even knew it was out, will prolly update the comment after I do.
 
I watched the second, fourth and fifth episode now and wasn't impressed. The second episode was good but you could see the plot twist coming from a mile away, the werewolf episode was fucking retarded and Demon 79 would've been a lot better without the shoe-horned anti-white messaging, at least the demon dressed up as the singer from Boney M was highly entertaining. I turned off the third episode halfway in, it's an interesting premise but felt too much like a Jobseekers project for Aaron Paul to me.
Fifty Million Merits
For me, the overall best episode of the whole show.

Black mirror has this habitual problem where it takes a good concept (arkangel, USS calister, be right back, Playtest, Shut up and dance, white bear, Crocodile, 2/3rds of Black Museum) but doesn't really bother developing it properly or thinkning it fully through
I agree to that and it's also my main point of critique. I still like the show overall.

It's better than season 5, which is a low bar.
I think they are pretty on par, which is a shame.
 
First episode of new season starts with a coalburner being bitched at for a company breaking the carbon footprint and a gay couple that call one another "love, dear, darling, babe" every 2 seconds.


Surprisingly not very woke appart from that. I didn't see the double twist coming and I thought it was pretty interesting, doing the thing with the laxatives to piss off the actress playing the character which has way more clout than the actual protagonist was actually extremely clever imo.


I do wish they did more with the concept of fiction levels, and it feels a bit like wasted potential, but otherwise the episode wasn't bad. I'd toss it on the wasted potential pile instead of the iredeemable pile.


The evil exec lady's plan to make shows about every single subscriber was a bit far fetched, and the protag being fired for what happens in a tv show is stupid, but again, otherwise, its a servicable episode with an intresting concept and a reasonably competent execution but won't hold up to rewatches.
Lochheed martin or whatever the fuck the second episode was called starts with jungle fever and bitching about cops (in iceland of all places), I'd rank it above national anthem, but below the bees.


Its just a shitty generic lifetime drama with a twist so obvious I genuinely didn't see it coming, no real social commentary, and no scifi concepts being explored, its lazy, derivative and badly paced, out of 60 minutes about 40 of them could be cut. Its a story that takes too long to say too little, doesn't say anything that important, and doesn't even say it well.


Usually when the bar is low, you tend to trip over it, in this case black mirror flattened itself out and went right through a seam in the wall to avoid going near the bar, which is impressive.


Its bad as a black mirror episode and its bad as a standalone.



Its about the THEMES THO, TRUE CRIME BAD", bitch shut up. In the immortal words of E;R:




This clip should mandatory viewing for all aspiring writers everywhere. Just because your story has themes does not mean you can ignore the plot. Themes need to go ONTOP of the plot, you cannot replace the plot with themes.
How come don't send the replicas in space instead of the other way around?


At first I figured it was an avatar (blue people) scenario where you can't use other people's replicas, but if you can what stops them from making him a new one..? It makes absolutely no sense to have the humans in space if you have this kind of technology that the plot relies on.


This episode is arguably striking vipers if it wasn't written by a retard, but its still 2 hours without really saying much.


Yes, we all realized he was gonna fall for the wife, is that it? A shitty love triangle is not a twist and certainly not one that you need to take two fucking hours to explore.


It takes too long to get nowhere and doesn't really say anything other than "lonely man with dead family that has been stuck in space alone for a year is lonely and kinda horny".


Everyone in the episode is a retard that doesn't understand how emotions work considering this comes as a shock to them.


The writers apparently figured out that his was not an acceptable twist for a 2 hour long episode out which is why they threw in the double twist literally out of the blue for no real reason, and its not even a good twist. Him secretly fucking the wife to spite aaron would have been a better one that didn't take 2 fucking hours to set up.


The end shot of him smugly kicking the chair and pointing at it was kino tho.


Its an intresting concept that's bloated in a 2 hour run and doesn't really do much with. The only reason its watchable is because aaron is a good actor that does his best to carry it, but it gets worse and worse the more you think about it.


Why didn't they have any backups in case this replica thing had an issue?


Why was there no security posted on either of their homes when they're involved in some unbelievably high tech mission and are literally the only two people up there?


If David owned a gun, this whole episode doesn't happen. All it took was 4 people with hammers and knives and they took down half of the team aboard this spaceship, which in the 1960s was likely the most sophisticated thing all of humanity had ever created.


Absolutely no way in hell would NASA make a billion dollar robot and let it just fuck off around California and who knows were else, especially after one of them already got Charles Manson'd. They'd have both of those families on a military base just to protect the replicas from being stolen by another country.


Its a 2 man spaceship on a 6 year mission with only 2 crew and no backup. If one of them has a heart attack (or say his fucking family gets killed because they're unprotected and he has a mental breakdown) the entire mission is fucked.


What the fuck was the government doing during all this? Why was it up to aaron to try and help david instead of the government?


Why did NASA let the greater public know about this presumably multi billion dollar super advanced replicas while offering them no godamn protection?


Why was there literally 0 fucking contingency plans for any of this by the government???


If anyone can pilot replicas why were there no "generic" backup replicas?


How did david not expect to get immediately murdered afterward?


Why even send the fucking humans in space instead of the other way around to begin with?


This is classic black mirror in the regard of having a cool idea and not bothering to think through any of its consequences. For a show that pretends to be smart you shouldn't have to turn your brain off to enjoy it. "
What's with season having completely shit pacing? You can cut most episodes down to size by 50% nothing of value would be lost. Beyond the sea is 2 hours long and could be cut down to 30-40 minutes, lockheed is 1 hour long and could be cut down to 20, maze runner or whatever is 40 minutes long and could be 20.


Its fine to have a slow boil if your twist is mindblowing, but if your twist is fucking garbage then all you've done is wasted everyone's time. My god how can shit like white christmas be in the same show as this???


You only do 3-6 godamn episodes per season, can't you at least try and make them good?


Brittney's new look from south park was unironically 100 times more engaging and interesting than this.


I complained that lockheed wasn't a black mirror episode and was a shitty lifetime drama, I gave it too little credit.


People will defend the episodes going "BLACK MIRRUR DOESNT HAVE TO BE ABOUT TECHNOLOGY", bitch, what the fuck do you think the black mirror is supposed to be? Its a fucking screen.


But I wouldn't complain if at least the episode was good, which its not. The cake analogy in the lockheed martin segment applies here too.
entitled pajeet with anger issues is forced to work for a demon with a constant undertone of "whitey bad".


The episode is also absurd in what it perceives as racism. The pajeet works at a shoe store and brings in food with spices to the point where they smell for hours and taint the merchandise, and the manager tells her to please stop doing it because its destroying the merchandise and annoying everyone or at least go eat in the basement, and this is somehow considered so racist it makes her want to put her coworker's face through a glass table.


Am I supposed to feel sympathy toward this chick? She's insanely selfish and gets triggered over the mildest shit.


She takes everything the demon says at face value, doesn't even consider he may be lying. And apparently he isn't??? I figured he was bullshitting when he said that the guy was raping his daughter, but no apparently the demon was 100% honest and punishing the wicked? The fuck kind of demon punishes the wicked??? All the "targets" were apparently deserving. Wow amazing moral "Should you kill a child rapist and a murderer?"


Here's an idea, how about all the targets are actually innocent sqeaky clean, so you have an actual moral??? "Kill 3 rapists to stop the apocalypse" vs "Kill 3 innocents to stop the apocalypse." Bonus points, because one of the targets is apparently someone who was hitting on her at work so naturally he deserves to die.


The episode isn't scary, and its not clever. Why is the demon trying to stop the apocalypse? Why are all the targets deserving? How did a 50 kilo woman somehow overpower a man nearly a head taller than her? There's nothing through provoking about this episode, no real subversion, no real twist, not particularly brilliant execution and nothing about it is thought provoking.


And again, the "white bad" overtunes cannot be understated, her last target is a "racist" politician that doesn't like immigration that she tries to kill while yaskween music plays in the background, truly amazing. ALSO, it undermines the whole fucking episode.


The demon says that you can't sacrifice murderers because "They're batting for the home team", the demon also says that the demons/satan absolutely loves this politician, but somehow he's a perfectly valid sacrifice? Yeah ok lmao.


This is a case of wanting to have your cake and eat it too. They want "bad people" to be immune from sacrifices, but still want a loophole so they can both call this guy a bad person, and have him be a valid sacrifice for the yaskween moment while le epic music plays the background.


There is no twist, no subversion, nothing about the episode is even remotely clever or witty, the whole thing is played completely straight and its not even done that well.


The whole thing is a twilight tier fanfic. Attractive demon man asks you to run away with him while the world ends, what the fuck is this lifetime movie shit? Pick a tone and stick with it, do you want supernatural horror or quirky romantic comedy?


Also, protip for my fellow kiwis in case you ever find yourselves in this situation (or more likely want to write a similar story where the protagonist outwits the demon) if a demon tells you the world is going to end in 3 days, they're bullshitting you 100%.


Matthew 24:36 |However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows."


If a demon claims to know when the world will end, they are lying. Now while this is unlikely to happen to you, you could always write a story where the protagonist outwits a demon and be subversive or unique and make a story that hasn't been done before, you know, like black mirror used to do.


This is a a below average american horror story episode AT BEST.


This season is overall better than 5, but that really isn't saying much of anything because 5 was beyond unwatchable.


Joan is awful and Beyond the sea are the only watchable episodes, but they don't have much rewatch value, demons of the punjab, lockheed and the werewolf one are straight garbage.


We've reached the point where black mirror has gone from a good show with a few bad episodes to a bad show with a few good episodes.


TNG star trek writers were forced to make like 30 episodes every year and even they had a better shit:quality ratio than black mirror making 4 episodes every 3 years.
 
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straight up irredeemable garbage. (Metalhead
Nigger that was probably the only good episode in that faggot season, the teddy bear shit ending ruined it but again the rest were worse
How come don't send the replicas in space instead of the other way around?
Same, they could even have a bunch of spare replicas there in case one breaks

The story could instead be that the astronaut is just one guy gets stuck in his replica and his real body is decaying but they cant disconnect him or he'll die so they are just keeping him alive until the mission ends, but I guess that too fucking complicated for the britcuck niggers writing this shit
Yes, we all realized he was gonna fall for the wife
I know right? I even thought "no way its gonna be so fucking predictable" and even thought they would instead go with the guy using the replica to find the murderers and kill them getting aaron involved by proxy, but nope they went with basic bitch writing instead
 
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Nigger that was probably the only good episode in that faggot season, the teddy bear shit ending ruined it but again the rest were worse
My problem with metalhead is that its not an exploration of a sci fi/dystopian concept like most good episodes are. Its just terminator but without anything that made terminator good, like the acting, the framing device and the action, Its just the protagonist being chased by a monster for 40 minutes.

The original twist of the dog having a human operator that just left to go give his kids a bath (which is why the dog shut down from the tree) was far more compelling than the current version. They cut it out because they thought it was superfluous but left the teddy bears in.

I dislike it because at the end of the day its not really an episode that makes you think and doesn't really present you with an interesting concept to chew on.

You said you dislike all the other episodes in that season, I understand the others, but why don't you like hang the dj?
 
Why even send the fucking humans in space instead of the other way around to begin with?
Believe it or not, they actually addressed that. During the home invasion, the replica gets smacked in the head and the user is forcibly kicked back to the real world and has to relog. Probably bad is that happens in space.

THAT SAID; that's not a good enough excuse to patch this over. As I was watching, I was hoping that the twist wasn't the incredibly obvious signpost, and would be something along the lines of "the replica's aren't actually on earth, it's just a sim to keep the astronauts from going stir crazy but obviously it just makes things worse" or something like that.
 
Believe it or not, they actually addressed that. During the home invasion, the replica gets smacked in the head and the user is forcibly kicked back to the real world and has to relog. Probably bad is that happens in space.
As opposed to the astronaut being smacked in the head and straight up dying which is somehow better?
 
The Fishtank CEO apparently did not like the direction Black Mirror was going in just based on the trailer and the first two episodes:


Even the people in the comments section are suggesting that the first two seasons of Black Mirror were at its peak, and everything started to turn downhill when it gained more popularity on Netflix.
 
The demon episode made absolutely no sense at all. A random knick-knack in the basement of a random shoe store gets blood on it, and this is enough to trigger nuclear armageddon? Isn't a demon supposed to offer you something you want? Or a contest? Or a trade? Or at least trick you in some way?

But no the demon is absolutely honest with her from start to finish. I guess maybe he was tricking her kinda/sorta by not telling her that murderers don't "count", but as soon as the situation comes up he immediately informs her of what is going on. I don't understand why this chick didn't just kill 3 hobos and call it a day.

And also yeah I'm not going to say she's treated fairly at work, but at the same time she's such a doormat that OF COURSE they would. Her coworker asks her to cut her lunch short so she can take care of an annoying customer, and she just agrees to it. BITCH YOU CAN SAY NO YOU DON'T GET TO BE MAD AT HER IF YOU SAID YES

Her coworker and boss says that the food she brings in is so smelly that it not only taints the break room but also even the merchandise? Yes, it is not racist and actually very reasonable to ask you to eat in your car or basement or whatever. I guarantee that if that chick had a peanut allergy she would demand that her coworker eat her peanut sandwich outside.

And, again I have to stress this point, why the fuck is there a world-ending magical artifact in the basement of a shoe store? I know they say it came from the previous owner or whatever, but the same question then applies to him: how did YOU get a world-ending magical artifact?

The most annoying thing about Black Mirror is that you still get occasional flashes of brilliance (Bandersnatch) that are decent enough that you kind of have to sit through a bunch of bullshit (Striking Vipers) on the off-chance that it might surprise you. [As a side note, when I saw Striking Vipers all I could think of was what both Katt Williams and Dave Chapelle said in regards to how Hollywood loves to emasculate and feminize black men specifically, and how they love to have black dudes kiss a guy or wear a dress on screen, and then I saw that episode and I thought, "welp it's Anthony Mackie's turn".]
 
@Los Pollos Hermanos

I see so many people go "Yeah the season was kinda bad but I absolutely LOVED the demon of 89" and I'm sitting here wondering whether or not we even watched the same show.

Enjoying demon 89 requires you to operate on such a low level of thought that I'm wondering how the fuck they even understood shit like white christmas and 15 million merits.
 
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