Ball Jointed Doll (BJD) Discussion

How is it not a ball jointed doll? Are you kidding me?

It clearly has joints and features that would make it a literal "ball jointed doll".
Ball jointed doll is generally applied to dolls that are strung with elastic. Most groups will accept Dollfie Dreams/Smart Dolls, even though they have internal skeletons, due to grandfathering. On the other hand, nobody accepts things like Figma figures, or Nendoroid, Blythe, or Monster High dolls as bjd, even though one can argue that the have a ball joint of a type.

DoA is known for being more neurotic than most, as they insist on a certain number of joints (not having wrist joints for example can make a doll "disqualified" there), as well as other requirements.
 
Ball jointed doll is generally applied to dolls that are strung with elastic. Most groups will accept Dollfie Dreams/Smart Dolls, even though they have internal skeletons, due to grandfathering. On the other hand, nobody accepts things like Figma figures, or Nendoroid, Blythe, or Monster High dolls as bjd, even though one can argue that the have a ball joint of a type.

DoA is known for being more neurotic than most, as they insist on a certain number of joints (not having wrist joints for example can make a doll "disqualified" there), as well as other requirements.
Figmas, Nendoroids, and Blythe make sense for not being considered BJD considering the stylizations the three have. Monster High though, seriously??? The M.H. dolls are probably one of the biggest doll-types that most would look at and consider a true BJD. I'd even argue that if it wasn't for the M.H. dolls, BJDs as a hobby wouldn't have become somewhat "mainstream". Sounds like BJD requirements are just a way for sad women/men to keep tight reigns on their hobby, which is just dumb, and makes BJD-fags on the same level as "burando" Lolita fags.
 
Figmas, Nendoroids, and Blythe make sense for not being considered BJD considering the stylizations the three have. Monster High though, seriously??? The M.H. dolls are probably one of the biggest doll-types that most would look at and consider a true BJD. I'd even argue that if it wasn't for the M.H. dolls, BJDs as a hobby wouldn't have become somewhat "mainstream". Sounds like BJD requirements are just a way for sad women/men to keep tight reigns on their hobby, which is just dumb, and makes BJD-fags on the same level as "burando" Lolita fags.
Nice b8, m8
Not even going to play along lol

edit: To any randies who don't know, there has been an increase in $10-20 sd scale plastic dolls off aliexpress that come nude or with an outfit. They are called, Dream Fairy. Its been loosely proven that they are bootlegs of resin bjds, (angel studio) so they are pretty taboo in a way.

Naturally, the folks too broke to afford a bootleg get these vinyl barbies and are trying to champion them as 'bjd's because they have sphere and ratchet joints that are similar to the most basic of bjds. The same way a made to move barbie/ gijoe has a torso joint, as does a bjd (its a massive fkn reach).

The dollfie and obitsu crowd usually chuck these folks out but the recast bjd scene is more tolerant, because of course they are.

So there is a bit of a to do, that these are totally bjds and totally valid and also special, despite being less articulated then a dollar store kelly doll
 
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Figmas, Nendoroids, and Blythe make sense for not being considered BJD considering the stylizations the three have. Monster High though, seriously??? The M.H. dolls are probably one of the biggest doll-types that most would look at and consider a true BJD. I'd even argue that if it wasn't for the M.H. dolls, BJDs as a hobby wouldn't have become somewhat "mainstream". Sounds like BJD requirements are just a way for sad women/men to keep tight reigns on their hobby, which is just dumb, and makes BJD-fags on the same level as "burando" Lolita fags.
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Both of these are "bjds" due to being strung. Hell, both are from the same company, and are the same size (ish, size is one of those things that can be hilariously off depending on company/type).

Monster High I think is considered a Fashion Doll along with Barbie, Bratz, etc. Edit: Another big separation between bjd and fashion doll is rooted hair. Fashion dolls almost always have rooted hair, while bjds have wigs.
 
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Nice b8, m8
Not even going to play along lol

edit: To any randies who don't know, there has been an increase in $10-20 sd scale plastic dolls off aliexpress that come nude or with an outfit. They are called, Dream Fairy. Its been loosely proven that they are bootlegs of resin bjds, (angel studio) so they are pretty taboo in a way.

Naturally, the folks too broke to afford a bootleg get these vinyl barbies and are trying to champion them as 'bjd's because they have sphere and ratchet joints that are similar to the most basic of bjds. The same way a made to move barbie/ gijoe has a torso joint, as does a bjd (its a massive fkn reach).

The dollfie and obitsu crowd usually chuck these folks out but the recast bjd scene is more tolerant, because of course they are.

So there is a bit of a to do, that these are totally bjds and totally valid and also special, despite being less articulated then a dollar store kelly doll
Nigga they're fucking dolls. This post in general makes my burando point. :story:
 
After you get the dolls... what do you do? Is it like gunpla where you can paint and customize it? I can get the aspect of getting it because it is cute, but do the owners customize or even play with it?

This looks like a really strange hobby and as a dude I just can't understand the appeal without the customization part.
 
After you get the dolls... what do you do? Is it like gunpla where you can paint and customize it? I can get the aspect of getting it because it is cute, but do the owners customize or even play with it?

This looks like a really strange hobby and as a dude I just can't understand the appeal without the customization part.
Yep. A number of people get blank dolls and do the face ups/body blushing themselves. Plus different wigs, eyes, clothes can make even a company face up look different. Some people do photography with them, some create scale dioramas for them (a big undertaking if it's for 1/3rd size), some sew the outfits themselves, some look at them more as art pieces they display, and then there's the weirdos who consider them their family and have long rambling stories behind each one. I met one of those once, it was creepy and unsettling.
 
tell me more, sounds really funny
They started telling me how all their dolls had families and she had three or four different dolls for each "character" at different ages, and this one was wed to this one, and they had such and so many children which she had (again) multiple sculpts for different ages of the children and the children were married with children of their own, and this was waaaaayyyy more obsessive that I ever was even back when I was creating stories with dinosaurs, horses, and Barbies when I was seven.

I also remember her bragging that she was healthy because she ate Subway back home in West Virginia, compared to the other fast food her neighbors ate. It was like listening to a crazy cat lady talking about the tea parties she had with her 18 cats.
 
They started telling me how all their dolls had families and she had three or four different dolls for each "character" at different ages, and this one was wed to this one, and they had such and so many children which she had (again) multiple sculpts for different ages of the children and the children were married with children of their own, and this was waaaaayyyy more obsessive that I ever was even back when I was creating stories with dinosaurs, horses, and Barbies when I was seven.

I also remember her bragging that she was healthy because she ate Subway back home in West Virginia, compared to the other fast food her neighbors ate. It was like listening to a crazy cat lady talking about the tea parties she had with her 18 cats.
damn, I can imagine playing with toys as a kid, and making up stories, but this is really something else, even more as an adult. But the dolls that were related, did she went full autismo and even made parts similar to the parents of each doll or she just told you the stories but you never saw it in person?

Where did you met this gem of a person? Hobby related or unrelated to it? I only had one encounter with something similar to it and it was just a grandma showing me the photo of her grandson in the bus when I was leaving for home. It was weird but not this weird.
 
damn, I can imagine playing with toys as a kid, and making up stories, but this is really something else, even more as an adult. But the dolls that were related, did she went full autismo and even made parts similar to the parents of each doll or she just told you the stories but you never saw it in person?

Where did you met this gem of a person? Hobby related or unrelated to it? I only had one encounter with something similar to it and it was just a grandma showing me the photo of her grandson in the bus when I was leaving for home. It was weird but not this weird.
Met at a convention, not a doll specific one (honestly meeting her has scared me off of meetups, because dear god, imagine if there's more like her) and most people brought one doll to show off. She had like 5. A couple were the "same" person at different ages.
 
After you get the dolls... what do you do? Is it like gunpla where you can paint and customize it? I can get the aspect of getting it because it is cute, but do the owners customize or even play with it?

This looks like a really strange hobby and as a dude I just can't understand the appeal without the customization part.
Fancy mentioning gunpla, but yeah, pretty much.
More like resin figs and statues, but about the same, they can be painted, dyed, carved or modded as you please. Some collect, some have em for display, some are happy with a handful for mods or shelling them as characters or media .

Check out dollfie dream , most of those are licenced dolls of sailor moon, hatsune miku, fate go characters, vtubers ect.

I personally have a handful for creative reasons. Its nice to sculpt accessories like hands and heads, recreational, pretty much..

But aside from that yeah, there's alotta freaks too. If you want some of the worst to offer, check out bjd confessions blogs.


Is currently active. Some stuff may be confusing context wise. Or scan this thread. Nothing really goes on, mostly women bitching

Bad Doll transactions on fb is decent. The feedback for "into the deep dolls" on etsy.

Den of angels

Dollfie dreaming forum ect
 
Fancy mentioning gunpla, but yeah, pretty much.
More like resin figs and statues, but about the same, they can be painted, dyed, carved or modded as you please. Some collect, some have em for display, some are happy with a handful for mods or shelling them as characters or media .

Check out dollfie dream , most of those are licenced dolls of sailor moon, hatsune miku, fate go characters, vtubers ect.

I personally have a handful for creative reasons. Its nice to sculpt accessories like hands and heads, recreational, pretty much..

But aside from that yeah, there's alotta freaks too. If you want some of the worst to offer, check out bjd confessions blogs.


Is currently active. Some stuff may be confusing context wise. Or scan this thread. Nothing really goes on, mostly women bitching

Bad Doll transactions on fb is decent. The feedback for "into the deep dolls" on etsy.

Den of angels

Dollfie dreaming forum ect
I encountered a Dollfie once in person. One of the Miku ones. Very impressive.

If you aren't sold on investing in the resin originals (muh burando), Obitsu makes softer vinyl models in the various scales. 1:6 is a decent starting point - that's "playscale" and includes most western fashion dolls as well such as Barbie, Monster High, and anything along those lines. The softer vinyl is easier to work with and a little more forgiving than resin, I think. If you wanna get really wild with it, take a thrifted doll, a glass jar, some acetone and a Dremel, cue up some customizer videos and make a weekend of it =p
 
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Both of these are "bjds" due to being strung. Hell, both are from the same company, and are the same size (ish, size is one of those things that can be hilariously off depending on company/type).

Monster High I think is considered a Fashion Doll along with Barbie, Bratz, etc. Edit: Another big separation between bjd and fashion doll is rooted hair. Fashion dolls almost always have rooted hair, while bjds have wigs.
I’d argue that inset eyes are a pretty defining quality, too.

When people refer to BJDs, they’re generally talking about a style of dolls that are typically made of cast resin parts that are strung together, use wigs and glass or acrylic eyes that can be easily changed out, and are nearly always meant to be kind of art pieces for adult collectors. (As probably the earliest example of the genre was Volks’ Super Dollfie line. In fact, I swear Dollfie Dream is only “grandfathered” in because they’re from Volks.)

A doll that’s made of plastic and/or vinyl with rooted hair and painted eyes and primarily marketed as a toy for children, no matter how articulated it is, is not really what they’re talking about at all. (And I say this as someone who pretty much exclusively collects plastic/rooted/painted dolls.)

It's not uncommon for dolls that nobody would consider a BJD to have BJD-like qualities like the wigs or inset eyes, but I can't think of an example of something that most people would consider to be a BJD that has rooted hair and/or painted eyes. (But hey, that scene's greatly expanded since the early 00's, so who knows.)
 
Culur's super limited and marked up dolls have been modded, improved, and recasted by chinabjd. Can't wait to see these 'totally legit' erys , almonds and cats pop up on instagram.
 
Ugh I hate recasted. I only buy at the original owner. I like Volks, I had a "half elf" but forgot the company, I had so much but have sold most. Now I only have a super old Volks Midori in pre-school and still love her. Oh and I had unoa chibbi in tan,she was just gorgeous. I have regret of selling her.
 
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