Avengers: Endgame - This is the end, beautiful friend

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Sitting at the Cheesecake Factory right now waiting for a table and the two black guys right next to me are literally talking about how stupid and pointless the girl power scene was lmao
 
Because they wanted to have it both ways, satisfy the autistic sjw tards like you, and the autistic anti-sjws that will smear the movie as a pile of crap as it rightfully is.
You are super far off the reservation if you think literally anybody in this thread is a SJW. I don't think I've even seen a single SJW on this site save lolcows posting in their own threads or whatever. Thinking Disney doesn't secretly hate Captain Marvel is not even sort of a SJW take.

The worst kind of person is
You are being way too melodramatic about a superhero film franchise, my dude.
 
Because they wanted to have it both ways, satisfy the autistic sjw tards like you, and the autistic anti-sjws that will smear the movie as a pile of crap as it rightfully is.



Which you are happy with. The worst kind of person is one whose aware of the issue but keeps contributing to it.

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lmao, I'll have to watch for it on rewatch.

tbf AOS had a gay reoccurring character in season 3, although I imagine people are separating the movies and the TV shows at this point reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
The TV/Netflix stuff is kinda in a weird spot currently since Marvel split in two. It's under Marvel Entertainment (Comic guys) and not Marvel Studios. You could make a reasonable argument that they're in a grey area of continuity where Studios doesn't care as long as they don't get in the way. They don't control it but there's no reason to go "ignore these guys".

Though we could be talking about people who give this no thought or ones who incorrectly believe it "was never MCU". I personally count them since any distinction hasn't been officially acknowledged.
 
The TV/Netflix stuff is kinda in a weird spot currently since Marvel split in two. It's under Marvel Entertainment (Comic guys) and not Marvel Studios. You could make a reasonable argument that they're in a grey area of continuity where Studios doesn't care as long as they don't get in the way. They don't control it but there's no reason to go "ignore these guys".

Though we could be talking about people who give this no thought or ones who incorrectly believe it "was never MCU". I personally count them since any distinction hasn't been officially acknowledged.
Yeah, Age of Ultron had that nod to Agents of SHIELD, but since then the movies have completely ignored the shows, while the shows bend over backwards to either accommodate or incorporate movie continuity. So I can't really blame people for thinking of them as being in two different worlds kinda, but it still makes me REEEEE to think about because I'd love it so much more if the movies acknowledged show continuity at all. I really wanted Coulson to reappear in the movies before he died.

Oh also the Marvelflix had that gay lawyer too. So people are definitely just talking about the movies, then, since I doubt any of them forgot her.
 
I didn't mind the girl power scene because it was full of characters I liked (the exception being the bland Captain Marvel). Usually I cringe at scenes like that, but I think the reason I didn't this time was because Marvel Studios did the legwork over the past decade and made me like all of them.

To me at least, it felt more like a scene showing off real people who happen to be female, rather than female props assembled for woke points. It was like the scene was saying "Yes, these are the women of the MCU, people like you and me with real personalities and relationships" rather than "Fuck yeah! These women are powerful because they are women!"

Overall I think Endgame was a great finale.
 
Yeah, Age of Ultron had that nod to Agents of SHIELD, but since then the movies have completely ignored the shows, while the shows bend over backwards to either accommodate or incorporate movie continuity. So I can't really blame people for thinking of them as being in two different worlds kinda, but it still makes me REEEEE to think about because I'd love it so much more if the movies acknowledged show continuity at all. I really wanted Coulson to reappear in the movies before he died.

Oh also the Marvelflix had that gay lawyer too. So people are definitely just talking about the movies, then, since I doubt any of them forgot her.
It's hard to find any incompatible stuff when they're both off in their own corner. Only minor contradictions like Dr. Strange showing a different version of Nico's mom than the Runaways. I totally get how you feel about continuity, I always go "goddamn it" whenever this site covers some writer lolcow since they almost always have some rant about how "the concept of continuity should be done away with" as if they could write a story without cause/effect and aren't just bitching about people pointing out their mistakes.
 
You guys need to take a break from the internet war for a second. Trust me, I hate that shit too. But a split second scene of all the women characters together in a massive clusterfuck war and a unnamed gay man with five lines does not a get woke go broke movie make. It’s all fanservice for the sake of fanservice, in a movie filled with fanservice. The latter was clearly written that way so it’ll get dubbed over to be straight in foreign markets.
I watched it in one of the "international markets" you were referring to, and I can confirm that it didn't get dubbed over.

It was a great film (even though it kinda dragged in the middle IMO), and no one even noticed the #GirlPower scene or whatever the fuck those autist YouTubers are talking about, there's no point in giving the "new generation" (Spider-Man/Cap Marvel/Black Panther) the spotlight in this movie to begin with, this was all about sending off Steve Rogers and Tony Stark.
 
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Not to bust balls, but you've literally just described how the vast majority of people consume most films.
Fair enough, though I'd argue that sort of immediate audience response is still not a strong measure of audience engagement or long-term sustainability. Many (and I'd argue most) of the recent MCU flicks might be porridge, but if the entire franchise was only porridge it wouldn't have last 11 years; and it's no surprise that to this day the films that are most frequently seen on people's top 5 all time favorite MCU films are the ones released in 2014 and earlier when Marvel's formulaic habits hadn't completely set in yet despite MCU films consistently reviewing well making profit.

As I've said in another thread, it'll certainly be interesting to see how long before the MCU eventually runs out of steam with some of their biggest draws like Iron Man and Captain America gracefully leaving the series and the chance of another Thor film being up in the air. I've seen people excited for Spiderman and GOTG 3 (though part of it I wonder is because of the Jame Gunn debacle) but no one seems exactly clamoring for the prospect of Dr. Strange 2, and I've been hard pressed to find someone who's actually seen Ant Man and Wasp much less someone who remembers seeing it enough to want a 3rd film. There's also just the matter that while the "see it, enjoy it well enough, but immediately forget it" model works okay for ticket sales, it tends not to spread to other avenues like merch sales. Something I noticed during the release of Captain Marvel was that one of the Disney stores near me set a HUGE display for her and all her merch - about an entire wall's worth of stuff - but following the film's release it hasn't gotten a lot of attention from customers.

But hey, maybe I'm wrong and Phase 4 will witness a massive MCU revival and characters like Captain Marvel will make a billion dollars no problem without the hype boost from one of the franchise's most anticipated films to back it up. It just seems extremely unlikely to me.

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I didn't mind the girl power scene because it was full of characters I liked (the exception being the bland Captain Marvel). Usually I cringe at scenes like that, but I think the reason I didn't this time was because Marvel Studios did the legwork over the past decade and made me like all of them.

To me at least, it felt more like a scene showing off real people who happen to be female, rather than female props assembled for woke points. It was like the scene was saying "Yes, these are the women of the MCU, people like you and me with real personalities and relationships" rather than "Fuck yeah! These women are powerful because they are women!"

Overall I think Endgame was a great finale.

Completely, 100% agreed.

Plus, I saw it as an Easter Egg/comic book reference, too. Lady Liberators, anyone?

In terms of "girl power" moments, Scarlet Witch stole the show for me. She was totally about to kill Thanos, and it was great. She definitely displayed more of an upper hand against Thanos than Captain Marvel did, I'd say. Had Thanos not called for backup, he would have been toast.

It really makes me scratch my head with how Marvel Studios is pushing Captain Marvel so hard. Scarlet Witch has always been one of the most powerful Avengers, easily. She has always been infinitely more interesting, too. Marvel already had a "super powerful wamen" character. Ah well!
 
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I loved it. Also though I agree the all girl scene was cringeworthy.....reminded me of how I felt that tiny moment in Captain Marvel when I thought she was gonna lez out, or the episode of Dr Who set in partition day india where instead of beating the shit out of grandma for giving the men lip they let her be in charge.......just too much virtue signalling......

Aside from all that there was a moment at the end where captain america went to go take all the stones back where i though they were going to make another 45 minutes out of it and I was ready to die (possibly something to do with the PACKED cinema of rabid popcorn eaters) but it really was great.
 
It's hard to find any incompatible stuff when they're both off in their own corner. Only minor contradictions like Dr. Strange showing a different version of Nico's mom than the Runaways. I totally get how you feel about continuity, I always go "goddamn it" whenever this site covers some writer lolcow since they almost always have some rant about how "the concept of continuity should be done away with" as if they could write a story without cause/effect and aren't just bitching about people pointing out their mistakes.
Yeah, I feel like most of the contradictions are more like, well this enormous happening on the show would obviously be fucking noticed. The worldwide inhuman plague being completely ignored by the films is the most egregious example of it imo.

also top kek @ writercows thinking being expected to craft a coherent narrative is oppression somehow

Aside from all that there was a moment at the end where captain america went to go take all the stones back where i though they were going to make another 45 minutes out of it and I was ready to die (possibly something to do with the PACKED cinema of rabid popcorn eaters) but it really was great.
My theatre got weirdly hot and sweaty towards the end of the movie. IDK if the A/C was out or if the combined nerd sweat of a packed theatre on opening day just overwhelmed their capacity but I feel you on being ready for it to end when it did despite enjoying the shit out of it.
 
Yeah, Age of Ultron had that nod to Agents of SHIELD, but since then the movies have completely ignored the shows, while the shows bend over backwards to either accommodate or incorporate movie continuity. So I can't really blame people for thinking of them as being in two different worlds kinda, but it still makes me REEEEE to think about because I'd love it so much more if the movies acknowledged show continuity at all. I really wanted Coulson to reappear in the movies before he died.

Oh also the Marvelflix had that gay lawyer too. So people are definitely just talking about the movies, then, since I doubt any of them forgot her.
The snag about incorporating that level continuity/crossover is that it would mean writers have to juggle the continuity of several different mediums while anticipating that not everyone will have the time or desire to follow everything Marvel. We already see how well that turns out in the long term with the comics and writers either constantly stepping on each other's toes, or one having their arcs hijacked because of something that happens in a bigger series, or one series having limited stakes because they can't contradict the other series. They've barely managed to do that with the films, trying to include the shows into that would be a clusterfuck.

I watch the movies of comics to get away from that writer infighting bullshit, not invite more of it in a different format.
 
Also though I agree the all girl scene was cringeworthy

It was the inclusion of Michonne in that part that really tipped it over for me. I was almost ready to just lie back and think of Stan for the obligatory girl power section (which is sexist as fuck btw) but she's there? Why? Sure she's badass for a human, but she's basically a retarded special forces spearchucker with a vibranium spear.

It really makes me scratch my head with how Marvel Studios is pushing Captain Marvel so hard. Scarlet Witch has always been one of the most powerful Avengers, easily. She has always been infinitely more interesting, too. Marvel already had a "super powerful wamen" character. Ah well!

Hard agree. Scarlet Witch is powerful, she's been around for a while, and she's interesting. Her actress can actually act, and she has a lot of charisma. Brie Larson spent the entire movie looking like she was failing to hold back a shart.
 
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