Asterix and Obelix - Asterix and Obelix general discussion

[Oilspill Battery]

"theyre just like us goys", Asterix and his village are visigoths in what is current day france)

Asterix and the village are celts/gauls, not goths. How could you even get this wrong when Vercingetorix is mentioned literally every other panel and the goths straight up appear in one of the issues.

There are aspects which you could call pozzed like the race positivity towards native americans and blacks

 

[funwithshemales69]

Asterix and the village are celts/gauls, not goths. How could you even get this wrong when Vercingetorix is mentioned literally every other panel and the goths straight up appear in one of the issues.

My bad, like I said I read it when I was a kid and I started associating France with Goths as of late.

I think there were instances where Asterix treats the blacks well compared to the Romans (The cleopatra comic), which was supposed to illustrate how good the Gauls were in comparison. He also was attracted to the Native american woman, if I was not wrong, negotiated with her father who was the village chief or something and helped them face the vikings.

 

[Another Random]

I'm following the thread, I'm interested in knowing whether the new ones can fill their shoes. With today's political climate I really doubt it, a lot of the ethnic caricatures and cultural exaggerations probably wouldn't fly today.

I mean, they aren't the worst possible options, but you gotta judge how much you tolerate 'modern stuff'.

Asterix and the Picts is like Astérix in Britain: they meet a Scotsman and the group goes to Scotland beat up Romans. Asterix and the Missing Scroll is a parody of Wikileaks where the point is that Wikileaks is a good thing and the powerful should get told on as much as possible. Asterix and the Chariot Race is a Wacky Races-like event parodying any international racing event, taking it seriously. Asterix and the Chieftain's Daughter is probably the one that's going to piss off the average Farmer because it can be read as feminist, so that's probably the most divisive of the lot. Asterix and the Griffin is a trip to Russia or something where they are trying to stop the Romans from finding a griffin. Asterix and the White Iris is functionally a parody of SJW-ism and stupid philosophies [especially Paulo Coelho] when Caesar tries yet another plan to get rid of the Indomitable Gauls, though I'm not sure anyone really cares about Vitalstatistix enough to enjoy his part in it that much. I haven't read Asterix in Lusitania yet.

I think that even if they're not going to be as great as the original series, they were still enjoyable to read. Some of the parts where I could say 'this feels awkward' actually have equivalents in previous comics [like 'women who are clearly smarter than the men around them', which tends to be read as a Mary Sue trait these days], and I don't think they push it so far enough that it's nothing like the originals. Seeing as how I'm fine with rereading these, I would say it's fair to give them a chance. It's still better than Marvel/DC superhero crap.

Uderzo's writing have detoriated quite notably as the series progressed, culminating in a a comic where an alien looking like a cheap Mickey Mouse knockoff appeared. Still for a time, it remained decent enough after Goscinny's passing.

Maybe it didn't deteriorate per se but he clearly had different priorities than Goscinny. Goscinny liked his stuff grounded, but Uderzo was into exploring magical stuff; cue Obelix turning into a kid due to magic potion overdose and Atlantis existing as a place where the same is commonplace, or a magic carpet ride to India where fakirs really use magic and Cacofonix's voice can literally bring rain.

 

[Overwritten Tapes]

The NES and Master System games are great.

The one for SNES is am old favorite of mine

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

I'm just glad I have hard copies of all the Asterix comics.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Some of the parts where I could say 'this feels awkward' actually have equivalents in previous comics [like 'women who are clearly smarter than the men around them', which tends to be read as a Mary Sue trait these days],

There's also the story where Asterix gives a black eye to an annoying feminist that was literally trying to subvert and take over the village, the villagers exile him in response, and Panoramix (which for people unfamiliar with the comic is generally considered to be both the wisest and most intelligent person in the entire village if not the entire comic) chastises the village basically going "You retards are siding with a mouthy hoe over the hero who has protected you and saved your lives countless times, fuck you I'm outa here."

Worth noting that the same episode literally has a feminist basically completely destroy the harmony of the community to give herself more power resulting in the men literally going their own way and abandoning the village because the women become too insufferable and hostile to them.

This comic came out in 1991.

 

[Slav Power]

I watched 12 Tasks of Asterix with the original Polish dubbing on VHS so many times as a kid that to this day I remember every quote when I watch it before it's spoken down to the voice and inflection.

I wish there was a separate instrumental for the House That Drives You Mad staircase walk. Shit plays in my head whenever I have to run around administration buildings getting shit done.

 

[deeman]

Think i made a list on the western animation thread but yeah, in terms of writing and humor i would say twelve tasks i the best while Vikings is the prettiest, and it was nice to see they could modernize it without ruining the story of the vikings album. The later CGI ones are actually pretty good but i don't bother with the live action ones.

And consider this, the feminazis of the 70's and 80' (at least around here in Scandiland) wanted it totally verboten since it "romanticises violence!"
The modern ones screams about the racist stereotypes (which always been a big part of the humor)

So it is based as hell.

 

[Miller]

The modern ones screams about the racist stereotypes (which always been a big part of the humor)

They managed to get a couple of Tintin albums removed from the stores.

 

[deeman]

They managed to get a couple of Tintin albums removed from the stores.

Yeah, The Congo one i remember, and also CCP wanted to fuck around and change the title of Tintin In Tibet to Tintin in THE CHINESE Tibet so i know about those two.

I watched 12 Tasks of Asterix with the original Polish dubbing on VHS so many times as a kid that to this day I remember every quote when I watch it before it's spoken down to the voice and inflection.

I wish there was a separate instrumental for the House That Drives You Mad staircase walk. Shit plays in my head whenever I have to run around administration buildings getting shit done.

I have the same urge for the first movie when the Romans been tricked to drink potion which makes their hair grow ultra fast.

I think there are apps that can exclude audio tracks and such but dunno if it would help you, all the Asterix movies has catchy tunes!

 

[Foltest]

Asterix is kino as fuck.
Nothing better than going to the library as a kid, look through their collection of Asterix comics and find a old classic.

My favorite is when they join the army.

 

[Admiral Throbnelius]

I remember one of the running gags with the Greeks in Asterix is they were all cousins and whenever their guide in Greece would introduce Asterix and company to someone, he'd point out that he's either his cousin or was cousins with someone else. Pretty sure this was the one where they go to the Olympics.

 

[vittek]

Actually one of the few comics you can still buy at Kiosks (Or whatever they are called in english, small open stand where you can buy snacks, fags etc) along with Ducktales here in Switzerland. Pretty much everthing else got replaced by politic and fortnite shit for some reason.

 

[Slav Power]

I think there are apps that can exclude audio tracks and such but dunno if it would help you

I know those and I used those, they're nowhere near perfect as even if you perfectly subtract any voiceover data, you will be left with noticeable audio gaps where this voiceover data was. This is unavoidable when you're trying to unmix a mixed audio track.

To add insult to the injury, a handful of tracks from the movie have been released, but not the one I'm looking for.

 

[Calandrino]

All I know is that the old ones were peak Western animation together with Lucky Luke.

Lucky Luke is almost completely unknown in the USA. No idea why e.g. The Smurfs made it over but not that.

Actually one of the few comics you can still buy at Kiosks (Or whatever they are called in english, small open stand where you can buy snacks, fags etc) along with Ducktales here in Switzerland.

Ducktales comics are relatively obscure in America too (the cartoon and the characters are well-known). We don't really have those kinds of kiosks (or whatever we call them in English... I know what you're talking about) either, not in most places anyway.

 

[Sneedmason]

No idea why e.g. The Smurfs made it over but not that.

There is actually an explanation that isn't just "too boring/European".

The author didn't want to change the characters for a long time. The comics contained, alcohol, guns and smoking. For some reason, America was somehow worse than the Brits (IDK how the fuck that was possible) when it comes to printing shit. I think he ditched the cigarettes and tuned down on the morbid illustrations (hanging ropes and coffins), even if it's not explicit, it was enough for getting the comic rejected in many places and with the brain rot cape shit, it was hard to compete.

It's weird how the most iconic "wild west" comic never got an audience in America.

 

[deeman]

There is actually an explanation that isn't just "too boring/European".

The author didn't want to change the characters for a long time. The comics contained, alcohol, guns and smoking. For some reason, America was somehow worse than the Brits (IDK how the fuck that was possible) when it comes to printing shit. I think he ditched the cigarettes and tuned down on the morbid illustrations (hanging ropes and coffins), even if it's not explicit, it was enough for getting the comic rejected in many places and with the brain rot cape shit, it was hard to compete.

It's weird how the most iconic "wild west" comic never got an audience in America.

I remember watching the show when i was really little, my dad collected those European comics so i got a bunch, but yeah, it is kind of weird but it didn't help that the Terrence Hill movies of Lucky Luke sucked ass as well.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

There is actually an explanation that isn't just "too boring/European".

The author didn't want to change the characters for a long time. The comics contained, alcohol, guns and smoking. For some reason, America was somehow worse than the Brits (IDK how the fuck that was possible) when it comes to printing shit. I think he ditched the cigarettes and tuned down on the morbid illustrations (hanging ropes and coffins), even if it's not explicit, it was enough for getting the comic rejected in many places and with the brain rot cape shit, it was hard to compete.

It's weird how the most iconic "wild west" comic never got an audience in America.

Discovering americans don't know who lucky luke and asterix are was one of the biggest culture shocks I've ever experienced, its like someone saying they don't know who batman, superman or spiderman are.