Art is NOT Subjective!!!!!! - If so, nothing is

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Holly Motherfucking Apeshit i hate these People. Art is not Subjective Coominication, because taste & value is subjective!!!, NO!!!!!!! That's some Urban Bug Women Shit. Art is a Craft, like an Engineer, Mechanic etc. Art has standarts & Quality differences. I'm so mad that many belive that shit.
 

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They're trying to make sure as many people are welcomed into art school after the last rejection set the dominoes in play for WWII.
 
Art is subjective... to an extent.

The problem is, a lot of these people over-value what that extent actually is.

When you start hearing "art is subjective, so I can read Animal Farm as being about capitalism if I want to!" that's when it gets brainrottingly stupid.

Also when people try to say that a child's crayon drawing is on the same level as professional painting... yeah I have to call BS there.

But if you're talking about something like "what game has better graphics, Final Fantasy VI or Diablo 1?" that's when it comes down entirely to taste.
 
You may be right but I'm not hanging a Pollack if I have something by Dali, Escher or Picasso.
 
Art is very much subjective.
How light caresses an image, or a sound bounces before you hear it is all subjective.

These are the reasons why you like Punk Rock, or New Wave or perhaps you like Big Band Swing, its subjective interpretation.
It is also the reason why some like the interpretations of bricks in an open space and paintings of a long lost village mill.

It is also why you are just fucking wrong.
 
You know the guy who painted those was the biggest fucking retard jew of all time. Actual insufferable human being who could not draw or paint and had to flex an "idea" of art on everyone else. He was so fucking insufferable he killed himself by taking too many barbiturates and slitting his wrists. He wasn't even man enough to blow his brains out with a firearm.

The way he talked about art reminds me of how autists describe what they do. Like a man who draws cub porn will talk about the nuance of the diapers the same way Rothko would talk about color theory. Just completely delusional and painful to listen.
 
Some things are subjective, others are objective. I will forever stand by my stance that stories are rhetorical arguments about reality and therefore can be objectively judged based upon both the story itself and the argument it is making. This same thing can be extended further towards other mediums as well, but some work better than others.

Music, for example, is not something that I would claim is 100% objective. I can say that works like the operas of Wagner do an objectively better job at incorporating music in a narrative than both his contemporaries and plenty of composers today, and that utilizing music as a vehicle to help communicate the central argument within a narrative through having the music's structure be entirely dictated by the story is objectively a more effective way to utilize music than having it be a series of disconnected miniatures, only really tied by mood.

What I cannot really say is that one form of music is objectively better than the other, and that has more to do with the fact that music purely on it's own does not have a clear teleology the same way stories do (Stories have since the dawn of time been a way to communicate value and important information both for survival and to discourage bad behavior that can damage society, you can look towards basically any bit of folklore from any nation in human history for that). Music is a lot more difficult on that front, especially when you look at music without a program. How do I know Brahms is better than Schoenberg? I mean I can use my ears and know the latter sounds like total dogshit, but I can't really formally state why this is the case. And there is likely some dipshit who thinks the opposite and I wouldn't be able to prove him wrong either way and neither could he me. I can point out objective things about music but I can't really objectively grade it. Only subjectively through my objective observations, based upon principles which I have set for myself but are not universal.
 
Art is subjective. Technique and aesthetics aren't.

After all, Wesley Willis's I Wupped Batman's Ass is objectively terrible from a technical and aesthetic standpoint, and yet what else could you call it except art?
"Who Killed Captain Alex?" and the other Wakaliwood films come to mind. There's technical and aesthetic skill in terms of film making techniques used, however the extreme limitations imposed on its makers led to the end product looking very rough and ready on the surface. Cheesy CGI and a single 480p camera for their early stuff because they were that dirt poor.

It's the sincerity and commitment of Wakaliwood's productions that push their films into an artform. Obviously not high art by any stretch, but they have a unique house style that makes their output so enjoyable to watch.

I'd like to think that if the Wakaliwood guys were given anything they wanted, it'd just be a couple of 4K cameras, a brand new MacBook Pro and a whole bunch of portable hard drives so they don't need to delete all the original footage once they've made the final edited version.
 
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