Are cities obsolete? - Is it time to retire these wretched hives of scum and villainy?

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I'd say no, simply because suburban sprawl is a pain in the ass and there are lots of very, very bad people who live in cities.

That said, the case for cities is a lot weaker than ever. Work for home is functional for many, many jobs, and that removes hundreds of thousands of people from cities. We'd be a lot better off as a society if work from home remained the standard as it did 2020-21, since traffic was noticeably far better even as recent as early 2022. It didn't become standard since business owners refused to put their ESG support into practice and actually help the environment by taking hundreds of thousands of cars off the road, plus big city real estate owners hated all those fancy office towers sitting vacant.

I'd say the point of a city is to function as an entertainment-cultural hub at this point. The city should sit mostly vacant after midnight, with the primary function being venues for sports, concerts, etc. as well as restaurants, nightclubs, etc. where people who meet online (everything from meeting your fellow shitposter to meeting a businessman you spoke with on Zoom) can meet up at. If it were up to me, I'd build some sort of functional mass transit to easily and quickly move people to and from the city alongside the highway. If we can ever get passenger drones working and affordable, they would really help too.

This would be like what cities were in many cultures. They existed to show off the power of a ruler and a place for gatherings and ceremonies. Most people lived nearby on farms or in small villages.

Everything else like industry, banking, politics, etc. can be done most anywhere else. You probably don't need a single city with more than maybe 500K people in all existence, and that's only if you're doing labor intensive shit like Foxconn does (since I based that number on how big Foxconn's industrial park is). In the far future when we have shit like true VR and even more automation, then I could definitely see the case for cities going away entirely.
Tokyo: Well functioning metropolis, fairly easy to get around, clean, very livable (if you can afford it, and can stand living close to 14 million people)

Beijing: Looks modern and glamorous, but with a very apparent underbelly of filth waiting around every back alley.
Neither city works because both cities (especially Tokyo) are in large part responsible for the demographic crisis each nation finds itself in. And before you say "oh China had the one-child policy", Chinese cities are even lower than surrounding provinces for birth rate. Currently the highest fertility rates in Japan are found in prefectures relatively far away from Tokyo or Osaka.
A lot of why cities suck is that there's a huge underclass (not necessarily poor, but can be) is needed to really power the city, and especially in more "diverse" cities that underclass is extremely easy to manipulate and is why corrupt political machines in cities exist. (Public education implies political machines were a legacy of pre-WWI America, that is absolutely not true).

Dismantle the political machines and crime, high taxes, and everything that follows will start to dissipate.
Political machines exist in rural counties too, they just inevitable affiliate to the one in the nearby city. When they don't, sometimes you see incipient machines in the form of the "good ol' boys network."
 
Probably only cities where the population is spread out. We could fit the entire planet's population inside of Texas if we built to the density of New York City. Not saying we'll see live in a single megacity but imagining 1000 years from now, surely we'll start utilizing airspace more productively.
There'll come a point in humanity's history where we'll have to choose between culling the human population or gearing life towards being more bike/walking friendly, simply out of necessity.
I know a lot of portly gentlemen may be appalled at not being able to drive constantly but just think about how much fuel is wasted by lazy retards circling the parking lot for a spot right by the doors of a store when they could have parked at the back in 30 seconds.
Life as we know it won't be sustainable for very long, so either it's a /pol/tard dystopia where billions will literally have to die or we'll have to change.
 
Life as we know it won't be sustainable for very long, so either it's a /pol/tard dystopia where billions will literally have to die or we'll have to change.
You underestimate the human capacity for invention. Someone will figure something out.

The real question is if it'll be allowed to be implemented.
 
I like cities because I prefer walking over driving.
The most US American statement. As a snownigger from northern way, I scratch my head whenever I read it. Then I remember that US American suburbs are liminal spaces in real life.
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No wonder why USA has an opioid addiction problem. I would also probably want to do that if I lived in a place where you basically don't exist if you are not enslaved to a car, and your neighbourhood looks like... this.
 
I can't believe a silly thread I created in the aftermath of Covid is getting attention three years later!
 
The most US American statement. As a snownigger from northern way, I scratch my head whenever I read it. Then I remember that US American suburbs are liminal spaces in real life.
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No wonder why USA has an opioid addiction problem. I would also probably want to do that if I lived in a place where you basically don't exist if you are not enslaved to a car, and your neighbourhood looks like... this.
A lot of newer suburban developments have grocery stores, restaurants, businesses/strip malls, etc. within a 15-20 minute walk right down roads with sidewalks and bike lanes. Unlike a city there's barely any traffic and it's low crime. This seems pretty standard nowadays (since like mid-late 00s) in suburban counties close to the city.
 
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