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Daneel appears in the prequels to the original Foundation trilogy, and sequel Foundation and Earth.
IMO a he is a weaker part of the expanded Foundation series, but he is there.
Apple TV's "Foundation" - Based on the Isaac Asimov books
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IMO a he is a weaker part of the expanded Foundation series, but he is there.
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I assume it's meant to be R. Daneel Olivaw / Eto Demerzel. He's in the main trilogy in Prelude to Foundation and Forward the Foundation. As well as the Robot books and Second Foundation Trilogy.
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I actually enjoy the show.
The Emperor looks like Gypsy Crusader lmao
The Emperor looks like Gypsy Crusader lmao
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So far what I've learned is that every good person in the future is a nigger. They're also like, 70% of the population, apparently.
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The show is increasingly feeling like a Robert Mckee class on writing a predictable drama and I don't know if I should curse it or praise it. Its kept my interest so far. Some of it is really predictable like shooting down an Empire jumpship and ending on two climaxes but i'm getting my money's worth.
Did I mention I am using someone else's AppleTV+ account for this?
When's the soundtrack droppin
Did I mention I am using someone else's AppleTV+ account for this?
When's the soundtrack droppin
thyme's up
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I was hoping someone here was watching the show.
Having not read the source material and being disillusioned by the ruining of Star Wars, Star Trek, and yes, even Stargate with the lousy reboot/back in time thing that we couldn't even watch, expectations were low. The first two eps were good but it's devolved into a confusing mess and I can't really explain what's going on other than the basic premise--a group of scientists exiled because they're a threat to the empire (or so the empire thinks). The nonlinear storytelling is confusing and seems more gimmicky than anything else.
The performances overall are good, but it's hard to care about the characters because 1) there are so many and 2) the abrupt time and fictional world jumps.
Overall it's okay. Music is awesome of course, and visuals are nice. We're on episode 7 and I hope it gets smoother and more interesting soon.
Having not read the source material and being disillusioned by the ruining of Star Wars, Star Trek, and yes, even Stargate with the lousy reboot/back in time thing that we couldn't even watch, expectations were low. The first two eps were good but it's devolved into a confusing mess and I can't really explain what's going on other than the basic premise--a group of scientists exiled because they're a threat to the empire (or so the empire thinks). The nonlinear storytelling is confusing and seems more gimmicky than anything else.
The performances overall are good, but it's hard to care about the characters because 1) there are so many and 2) the abrupt time and fictional world jumps.
Overall it's okay. Music is awesome of course, and visuals are nice. We're on episode 7 and I hope it gets smoother and more interesting soon.
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I mean, its lovingly made but that messianic jared harris at the end made me laugh uncontrollably like, we're already out of ideas. I'll finish this season out but we gotta do better, Apple. You're the winners of capitalism and this is the best you got?
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I've been watching it, and I've read the source material.
It's alright, but they keep padding it with made up points of view from the Empire. Also it can't be just me that thinks the Emperor looks similar to Gypsy Crusader.
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I was sick the last week and picked up the series after watching a few clips on youtube. I've read the books and liked em but I think the first thing to mention is that the tv show basically just takes the basic concept of the books and that's kinda where the similarities end. Overall I like the show but it deviates pretty far from the books.
Main thing is in the books the idea of psychohistory is that it's basically the trends and forces theory of history extrapolated out into a science. Individuals don't matter and the whole idea of the creation of Foundation was that the trends and forces would be set up in such a way that it would survives the crises in the Seldon plan and shorten the dark age. This is why Foundation was supposed to have no knowledge of psychohistory so they couldn't be contaminated. In later books it turns out there's a Second Foundation was nothing but psycohistorians to basically tweak the plan from Trantor since Seldon recognized the plan could veer way off course if a variable he hadn't accounted for entered the mix, like the Mule.
Anyway, the show really veers off from this idea and instead has a Harri Seldon force ghost directly influencing the Foundation through the first and second crises and gender swapped Gaal Dornick and Salvor Hardin are ultra special keys to everything. I don't really mind a gender swap but idea of the book was that individuals would rise up/appear to meet the challenge and not be hand selected by fate or whatever. Or how General Bel Rios was supposed to basically have the Foundation on its knees in the book but was recalled by the Emperor specifically because he became a threat to the throne by being too successful but in the show he just gets into a fist fight with Day.
So ignoring that, I actually like the Emperor(s) Cleon aspect of the show a lot. I think it's mainly cause I like seeing the process by which things fall or come apart and idea of some sort of trinity of clones emperor is interesting. They've basically recycled Daneel Olivaw as Demerzel which I guess makes more sense then Olivaw somehow influencing all of humanity for 20,000 years from the moon as he did in the books.
Overall it's basically like a 6.5~7 outta 10, not really like the books but good enough for a watch. If I had to guess the third season is gonna be the last.
Main thing is in the books the idea of psychohistory is that it's basically the trends and forces theory of history extrapolated out into a science. Individuals don't matter and the whole idea of the creation of Foundation was that the trends and forces would be set up in such a way that it would survives the crises in the Seldon plan and shorten the dark age. This is why Foundation was supposed to have no knowledge of psychohistory so they couldn't be contaminated. In later books it turns out there's a Second Foundation was nothing but psycohistorians to basically tweak the plan from Trantor since Seldon recognized the plan could veer way off course if a variable he hadn't accounted for entered the mix, like the Mule.
Anyway, the show really veers off from this idea and instead has a Harri Seldon force ghost directly influencing the Foundation through the first and second crises and gender swapped Gaal Dornick and Salvor Hardin are ultra special keys to everything. I don't really mind a gender swap but idea of the book was that individuals would rise up/appear to meet the challenge and not be hand selected by fate or whatever. Or how General Bel Rios was supposed to basically have the Foundation on its knees in the book but was recalled by the Emperor specifically because he became a threat to the throne by being too successful but in the show he just gets into a fist fight with Day.
So ignoring that, I actually like the Emperor(s) Cleon aspect of the show a lot. I think it's mainly cause I like seeing the process by which things fall or come apart and idea of some sort of trinity of clones emperor is interesting. They've basically recycled Daneel Olivaw as Demerzel which I guess makes more sense then Olivaw somehow influencing all of humanity for 20,000 years from the moon as he did in the books.
Overall it's basically like a 6.5~7 outta 10, not really like the books but good enough for a watch. If I had to guess the third season is gonna be the last.
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There's like 6 or 7 books in the foundation series.
The last book, the protagonist meets R Daneel in the moon.
I just started it, it's been on my to watch list for a while. It is set up as a prequel to foundation, and the production is great, script writers seem to at least appreciate Asimov, but it's written to be a little more juicy than the books(common because a lot of sci-fi is pretty dry).
I'm a little shocked at how many niggers are in the future, but what do you expect from a 2021 production.
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False Alarm
The first 8 episodes were an interesting take on the events leading up to the first book. Then, in textbook current year fashion they fired the writer who appreciated the source material, and from what I can tell hired or subcontracted season 2 out to Disney. Season 3 allegedly exists but I haven't seen a torrent for it(after watching season 2 I don't know if I will bother).
Season 1 was interesting and kind of played into the state of the universe of book 1.. then the writers just had an AI read the cliff notes and well.. I'm disappointed, Netflix did the same thing with altered carbon, Amazon did the same thing with the expanse. Some cannuck decided Stargate was farscape(I actually liked farscape, but it wasn't the same kind of show), and I have to suffer.
The first 8 episodes were an interesting take on the events leading up to the first book. Then, in textbook current year fashion they fired the writer who appreciated the source material, and from what I can tell hired or subcontracted season 2 out to Disney. Season 3 allegedly exists but I haven't seen a torrent for it(after watching season 2 I don't know if I will bother).
Season 1 was interesting and kind of played into the state of the universe of book 1.. then the writers just had an AI read the cliff notes and well.. I'm disappointed, Netflix did the same thing with altered carbon, Amazon did the same thing with the expanse. Some cannuck decided Stargate was farscape(I actually liked farscape, but it wasn't the same kind of show), and I have to suffer.