💤 Inactive Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston / CattyN - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

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Ruin dijo:
it's almost like the Joker is a complete monster or something.
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Just because a character is completely monstrous doesn't excuse them doing something that might upset viewers!</tumblr>

Ah, I remember the great Sansa Got Raped shitfit, many sobs of being raped by proxy, much demands for an undo, wow
 
Raiken dijo:
What did he bitch about with the killing joke? Is it the big problems like how the first half basicaly had nothing to do with se actual story or that batman bangs batgirl?
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Pretty sure he just hated The Killing Joke in general, even before they announced it was being animated.
 
Ruin dijo:
Harley Quinn's a dyke now? I thought her backstory was that she was a prison shrink who fell in love with The Joker and developed an obsession with him.
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True, but there's been an established relationship between her and Poison Ivy for a long time now, I think going back to the B:TAS days. Which means, yeah, that's probably why Dobbo is so upset.
 
Ruin dijo:
it's almost like the Joker is a complete monster or something.
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What? Noooo.

He's a poor misunderstood special snowflake. He's done nothing wrong. It's that BIG MEAN OLD Batman imposing his rich white cisgendered privilege onto him.

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Anyone else notice how a lot of these neckbeards and edgelords seem to idolize the Joker?
 
Yeah, Harley is basically the one human Ivy doesn't hate, which doesn't mean a lot besides fapfic material.
 
Ruin dijo:
Harley Quinn's a dyke now? I thought her backstory was that she was a prison shrink who fell in love with The Joker and developed an obsession with him.
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Harley's bisexual...like Ivy...and Catwoman...something must be in Gotham's water. They still end up hetero pairings to be fair.

Koby_Fish dijo:
[Comment from a friend of mine]:
Sonic's flesh-colored arms are like Batman: The Animated Series for Dobson.
they are the only originals and changing that is heinous
which is why he bitched about Killing Joke being voiced by the "original actors"
he doesn't acknowledge Super Friends apparently
let alone (Filmation) earliest eras animated Batman.
Dob doesn't acknowledge Olan Soule, hell, he doesn't even acknowledge Adam West, who voiced an animated incarnation of Batman before Kevin Conroy.
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Was TAS a big thing for Dobbo? If so, it's strange for him to characterize comic Batman as edgy macho trash when his animated counterpart becomes way more jaded by the time of Beyond and it's not like comic Batman is the Frank Miller or Nolan version. Having read the issue when it came out yesterday, the comic where he proposes to Catwoman has Bruce trying to give life advice to a young girl who lost her family to not become an unhappy person like him. I guess I really do need to stop thinking too hard about people who bitch about things they don't read/watch.
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I think the Poison Ivy side is even worse than the Harley side, since Ivy genuinely hates humans, and there's no feasible reason why Harley of all people should be an exception. I guess I could see it if she was scissoring a nature activist or something, but the Harley-Ivy relationship is one of DC's many terrible ideas that SJWs and smut artists/writers alike have gone crazy about.

Naturally, Dobby is no exception.
 
PrincessJupiter dijo:
I think the Poison Ivy side is even worse than the Harley side, since Ivy genuinely hates humans, and there's no feasible reason why Harley of all people should be an exception. I guess I could see it if she was scissoring a nature activist or something, but the Harley-Ivy relationship is one of DC's many terrible ideas that SJWs and smut artists/writers alike have gone crazy about.

Naturally, Dobby is no exception.
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Feh, it's all just people who are ashamed of their own entirely normal sexual fantasies about a hot costumed redhead and a hot costumed clown-bimbo bumpin' uglies. Gotta come up with some introspective, culturally relevant excuse to beat their meat, because they're supposed to be too enlightened for this sinful world.
 
PrincessJupiter dijo:
I think the Poison Ivy side is even worse than the Harley side, since Ivy genuinely hates humans, and there's no feasible reason why Harley of all people should be an exception. I guess I could see it if she was scissoring a nature activist or something, but the Harley-Ivy relationship is one of DC's many terrible ideas that SJWs and smut artists/writers alike have gone crazy about.

Naturally, Dobby is no exception.
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Eh, most pairings in comics don't make a whole hell of a lot of sense. There's very little natural chemistry for most of the traditional pairings, you have to rely on moments of them standing up for each other, believing in each other, etc. It's the result of inconsistent writing that happens because of every writer coming along enacting their personal vision rather than trying to stay consistent.

Harley and Ivy work kind of in an opposites attract/they're both crazy weirdos sort of way but ultimately their relationship is neither more grounded or more groundless than any other given comics pairing, which means that the squeeing over them as something revolutionary and groundbreaking just because they both have vaginas isn't particularly convincing.
 
Jigglyjogglers dijo:
Eh, most pairings in comics don't make a whole hell of a lot of sense. There's very little natural chemistry for most of the traditional pairings, you have to rely on moments of them standing up for each other, believing in each other, etc. It's the result of inconsistent writing that happens because of every writer coming along enacting their personal vision rather than trying to stay consistent.

Harley and Ivy work kind of in an opposites attract/they're both crazy weirdos sort of way but ultimately their relationship is neither more grounded or more groundless than any other given comics pairing, which means that the squeeing over them as something revolutionary and groundbreaking just because they both have vaginas isn't particularly convincing.
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it is for thirsty sexually frustrated blue(balled)bald bear virgin with rage
 
Jigglyjogglers dijo:
Eh, most pairings in comics don't make a whole hell of a lot of sense. There's very little natural chemistry for most of the traditional pairings, you have to rely on moments of them standing up for each other, believing in each other, etc. It's the result of inconsistent writing that happens because of every writer coming along enacting their personal vision rather than trying to stay consistent.

Harley and Ivy work kind of in an opposites attract/they're both crazy weirdos sort of way but ultimately their relationship is neither more grounded or more groundless than any other given comics pairing, which means that the squeeing over them as something revolutionary and groundbreaking just because they both have vaginas isn't particularly convincing.
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The thing with Harley/Ivy that everyone forgets, for the comic versions at least, is they're not supposed to be a good relationship (unless you're a hack). Most of the time it comes off as Harley is a sap who clings anyone who shows her affection and Ivy's using as a mook or sometimes Harley also has an ulterior motive. So it's extra dumb to go "Yeah! Lesbian girl power! True love!" to two psychotic women manipulating each other while masquerading it as a relationship.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have threads on people with those kinds of relationships irl.
 
SparePearl dijo:
Don't quote me on this, but one of the things I think he complained about was Barbara/Bargirl for the Killing Joke portion--that is the Joker stripping her down after he paralyzed her and sent pictures he took of her to Batman and Gordon, iirc.
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My best guess is the Joker paralyzing Barbara Gordan before kidnapping Jim Gordan. When the issue came out some feminists were very pissed off at that scene (bonus exceptionalism for complaining about her supposedly acting like a 50's housewife) matters got worse when the editor was quoted as saying (referring to Batgirl) "Just cripple the bitch." What makes this baffling is that Jim got the worse fate as Joker was gonna mentally break him and make him a nutjob like him. Him paralyzing Barbara was just a means to an end, hell even Batman comforts Barbara promising her to get him back safe and sound which I figured a sexist comic wouldn't do. Furthermore she actually learned to overcome the disability and developed as a character. Ironically when the New 52 fixed her up people were up in arms over her not being in a wheelchair. The bitching got so bad Alan Moore regrets writing it. If I am correct I think this bitching is what put Gail Simone on the map who ran the site "Women in refrigerators" leading her to get hired by DC.
The Killing Joke has always been source of controversy since it was first published. Even though it all boils down to "Joker did something fucked to a strong womyn even though this is a guy who would later beat a kid death with a crowbar in front of his mom and sell nukes to iran." My guess is Dobson is trying to virtue signal to those "comic book loving" nerd feminists.
 
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