💼 Careercow Andrew Dobson (aka Tom Preston)

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Stud2Stud dijo:
"Out of curiosity, how long is your "early-access" period? Ten years? Twenty?"
:coffee: Damn.

Also way to go DobDob, using a video game buzzword that is not only in no way or form applicable to your own craft but also growing in its negative connotations.

Is he talking about the "art" in some project he currently has, where he plans to improve his "art" or is he talking about his "art" in general?
If he's talking about it in general: Holy fuck, how is he planning to ever get employed in the field of art - comic, cartoon or otherwise - if he basically admits that his art sucks right now even for HIS standards.
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He won't, obviously.

As for the first question, I think it's the latter. To which I say, 'Good going Dobsy, maybe you should just give up and get a cushy desk job.' Though if that happened, he'd probably get shitcanned for his "Warrioring" on Twitter and his childish behavior fairly quickly.
 
Alan Pardew dijo:
https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/543684852634370048
The good ol' early access excuse like what Moleman does
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But he has a degree and...He's been drawing for so long...I mean, every artist has that period when they come up with a dry spell and they have no creativity, no motivation to make something. But this man/bear/child, how could he not have something to show for it? I mean other than a collapsing webcomic?
 
Gohi dijo:
I'd love to say "So... You're a Cartoonist?" and "Alex Ze Pirate" are the most derivative and humorless webcomics I've ever read, but we all know webcomics can be much worse than that... :sonichu:
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Well obviously, but they're definitely up there at least.
 
Gohi dijo:
I'd love to say "So... You're a Cartoonist?" and "Alex Ze Pirate" are the most derivative and humorless webcomics I've ever read, but we all know webcomics can be much worse than that... :sonichu:
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There's something about Dobson's work that makes it so much worse in my mind. The example I'm drawn to is a comparison between Sonichu and, well, anything of Dobson's: all things being equal, Sonichu had the torture and dismemberment scenes, as well as the awful sex scenes, but they were childish and cringe-worthy rather than anything to actually be upset about. In contrast, Dobson's a better artist than Chris (not that that's saying an awful lot) and as a result his work, while still immature and relatively derivative, is more recognizably bad. Basically it's a lot easier to tell a picture of a turd is a turd if it's in focus.
 
TheIceCreamMan dijo:
There's something about Dobson's work that makes it so much worse in my mind. The example I'm drawn to is a comparison between Sonichu and, well, anything of Dobson's: all things being equal, Sonichu had the torture and dismemberment scenes, as well as the awful sex scenes, but they were childish and cringe-worthy rather than anything to actually be upset about. In contrast, Dobson's a better artist than Chris (not that that's saying an awful lot) and as a result his work, while still immature and relatively derivative, is more recognizably bad. Basically it's a lot easier to tell a picture of a turd is a turd if it's in focus.
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It's actually interesting to compare Dobson and Chris in terms of their comics, as they both always feature their own avatar as the ultimate good, and everyone who disagrees with them as nasty, evil trolls. In that regard, I actually think I have more respect for CWC's comics. Despite being infantile and stupid, their ludicrous storylines, bizarre dialogue, and constant anti-climaxes make for a lot of humor. Whereas Dobson's stuff is just cringeworthy, soapboxy tripe that seems to be as confrontational to the reader as possible, with the constant hypocrisy of having a guy who gets off to exploding women telling everyone how sexist they are.
 
Not sure if this has been posted before but:


Could someone give me the long and/or short context of this video? Did he apply for Disney and get booted? How long ago was that?

namazuros dijo:
It's actually interesting to compare Dobson and Chris in terms of their comics, as they both always feature their own avatar as the ultimate good, and everyone who disagrees with them as nasty, evil trolls. In that regard, I actually think I have more respect for CWC's comics. Despite being infantile and stupid, their ludicrous storylines, bizarre dialogue, and constant anti-climaxes make for a lot of humor. Whereas Dobson's stuff is just cringeworthy, soapboxy tripe that seems to be as confrontational to the reader as possible, with the constant hypocrisy of having a guy who gets off to exploding women telling everyone how sexist they are.
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You can actually make memes out of Chris's stuff too, such as Boulder-Dropping Whale. Dobson hasn't made anything funny enough for that yet.
 
That Chris Guy dijo:
Not sure if this has been posted before but:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=YBOD1lH8GsU
Could someone give me the long and/or short context of this video? Did he apply for Disney and get booted? How long ago was that?
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I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, but when Chris tried to get employed by Disney, they didn't take him in favor of another guy called Andrew (who then worked on Wreck-It Ralph IIRC).

That Chris Guy dijo:
You can actually make memes out of Chris's stuff too, such as Boulder-Dropping Whale. Dobson hasn't made anything funny enough for that yet.
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This. While Chris stuff is just so bizarre that it is bound to crack you up, Dobson's hypocritical bullshit is just boring tripe at the best of times and pure rage-fuel at worst.
 
This is probably down to me being a fail-o-suckyartist but I strangely ended up doing my progress a bit differently, basically started all (somewhat) cartoony and stuff then looked into semi-realistic up to actual realistic. Basically got acquainted with the basic forms of the body then mainly working on more detailed landmarks while checking up on photos and such just to make sure what I'm using is actually accurate.

I guess the point is, I don't think it's super-necessary to jump into the hyper-realistic blood art. However I ain't cutting Dobby any slack because no matter how you do it, there's no excuse for just ditching RL referencing/study altogether. Do that and you just end up with stuff that either looks wrong even for a cartoon or drops riiiiight into uncanny valley.
 
It really seems like no one would care about his art or whether he improved it or not if he wasn't such a gigantic dick about it, and since that's what he professes to want really badly, perhaps he could try not being a gigantic dick about it.
 
Saney dijo:
Does he know she's married...and crazy?
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Well given how usually something like "she's married/in a relationship" won't get in the way of a creepy pseudo feminist's lust (think OPL) then yep.
C'mon ditch that mansplaining pig and get with Dobby, the ONLY nice guy in the entier supermultiverse! Just don't question the bike pump, he gets pissy at everything.
 
CalmMyTits dijo:
I was reading the screencap of him bitching at various people on DA for trying to help him/give feedback. Before I did, I wasn't quite so sure why he was THAT reviled, now I do.
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That's how it is with a lot of them (and OPL really) most of us looked at first and thought "What's so bad about this person?" then you learn. FAST. For me the most notable case was Anita Sarkeesian.

Though similar things happened with others like, say, Chris "Oh he's just a guy that made an average bad sonic/pokemon hybrid what's so special about th-holy shit this guy is nuts!"

Or DSP "A bad LP'er? There's like a millio--okay this is just hilariously sad wow"

Or in Dobby's case "Well it's alright, people can get better an--okay REALLY OBNOXIOUS HOLY SHIT how does he expect to get a career at all with that attitude!?"

It's what makes it so funny/sad, these same people will whine about how everyone's just on the hater bandwagon yet will very quickly prove exactly why they're despised.
 
MayMay dijo:
That's how it is with a lot of them (and OPL really) most of us looked at first and thought "What's so bad about this person?" then you learn. FAST. For me the most notable case was Anita Sarkeesian.

Though similar things happened with others like, say, Chris "Oh he's just a guy that made an average bad sonic/pokemon hybrid what's so special about th-holy shit this guy is nuts!"

Or DSP "A bad LP'er? There's like a millio--okay this is just hilariously sad wow"

Or in Dobby's case "Well it's alright, people can get better an--okay REALLY OBNOXIOUS HOLY SHIT how does he expect to get a career at all with that attitude!?"

It's what makes it so funny/sad, these same people will whine about how everyone's just on the hater bandwagon yet will very quickly prove exactly why they're despised.
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Or, for a very recent example, Psyguy. "He's just another LPer/sprite comic author, what is so bad about-WHAT THE FUCK HOW CAN SUCH A PERSON EXIST WE HAVE FAILED AS A SPECIES"
 
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