80s cartoons were peak

I don't even know what Street Frogs
I ran into the intro for that recently
it appears to be Urban Youths having adventures in the city, but they're frogs

they didn't seem to have any magic powers or anything from the intro, so I think it's more of a "wander and talk" thing like Fat Albert
 
Nonono, the "fuck ass" decade is the 2020s. There was no gay shit in 80s cartoons. Nobody was fucking asses back then.
Go eat a booty flake off of He-Man, that shit was gay then, and it’s gay now. This thread can be summed up as oldheads having the worst taste in literally anything reward.
 
Go eat a booty flake off of He-Man, that shit was gay then, and it’s gay now. This thread can be summed up as oldheads having the worst taste in literally anything reward.
Yeah, because endless isekai, endless battle shonen, and endless cartoons made for Reddit and Tumblr are so much better than 80s cartoons that are good at worst.
 
I must've been born in the wrong decade for cartoons. The only ones I remember watching were the ones tied to video games.:stress:

I did watch the DuckTales reboot recently, and it was actually pretty good.

 
Yeah, because endless isekai, endless battle shonen, and endless cartoons made for Reddit and Tumblr are so much better than 80s cartoons that are good at worst.
Nigga, both can be bad. I’m sorry the cocaine and ass eating you did during the 80s left you delusional, unc, but don’t you dare sit here and try to convince me shit like ThunderAids was something good.

Why do you hate life? Who hurt you?

Anything past 2005 is terrible, don’t @ me.
 
80s cartoons were good because they were trying to sell you toys. There were stakes.

That being said, He-Man is gay as fuck. You get a pass if you liked him as a kid tho, you didn't know any better. But by your teens you should have grown into Conan the Barbarian if you like almost naked muscle men.
 
The real ghostbusters was great it was kinda scary too it didn’t patronize kids teens would watch it too. Had some cool episodes that could have potentially been movies, so was the beetlejuice cartoon while more childish I showed a couple of episodes to my daughter and It’s still funny with all the slapstick and visual comedy
they were movie based cartoons first (despite both being movies you probably shouldn’t show kids), toys were an afterthought
 
The real ghostbusters was great it was kinda scary too it didn’t patronize kids teens would watch it too. Had some cool episodes that could have potentially been movies, so was the beetlejuice cartoon while more childish I showed a couple of episodes to my daughter and It’s still funny with all the slapstick and visual comedy
they were movie based cartoons first (despite both being movies you probably shouldn’t show kids), toys were an afterthought
I like how the Boogieman was a villain in the Ghostbusters cartoon.
 
I’m sorry the cocaine and ass eating you did during the 80s left you delusional, unc
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That being said, He-Man is gay as fuck. You get a pass if you liked him as a kid tho, you didn't know any better. But by your teens you should have grown into Conan the Barbarian if you like almost naked muscle men.
You joke but funny thing this did almost happen. In the 1990s there was a Conan cartoon and around now was when I kept hearing Conan was an inspiration for He-Man. Unfortunately the original Robert E. Howard stories were hard to find (they were basically out of print until Wandering Star and Del Rey republished them in the mid-2000s).

That Conan cartoon, Conan the Adventurer, still holds up... though you have to forgive that its watered-down compared to REH's stories since, obviously, a children's show in 1990 couldn't have Conan cleaving people's heads off (a similar issue afflicted the also much-underrated Highlander cartoon). What impressed me last time I watched it was it still had Conan acting like Conan for the most part--there's a part where he gets put on a slave ship and, in true Conan fashion, his impulse is to immediately start fighting and then attempt to jump overboard and swim to shore. He only calms down because the attempt ends up with him nearly drowning. Anyone who knows REH's stories knows this is exactly the kind of shit Conan does--his first impulse is to fight, no matter what, and only do other things if fighting does not work.

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Getting back to He-Man, I still hold it and She-Ra (which again I consider the same show) are both massively misunderstood these days. I was gonna link to previous rants I made but I'd rather this thread be a Containment Zone of sorts, so I'll paste them here.

(Most of these are originally from this thread)

Not just Paul Dini... a lot of people who would go on to be big names later got their start on He-Man. Bruce Timm was also involved with it, as was J. Michael Straczynski.

Filmation's stuff in general was golden, and its always legit fun to show their work (particularly Bravestarr) to people who think 1990s cartoons were the first ones to do this or that thing.

Also as much as it led to some of their issues (like recycled animation), I gotta respect the company's commitment to making sure everything they made was produced on American soil (with the exception of a Zorro cartoon that they had to outsource because they literally did not have enough animators to make it in-house on schedule).

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Stinkor was literally never in the cartoon at all, because Filmation's writers thought he was a stupid character.

On that note, I kinda see what you mean--if you're looking at the franchise as a whole, yeah its pretty clear there were several people who had their own idea of what Masters of the Universe even was.

That's why I made the comparison to Lord of the Rings earlier. A lot of what made Tolkien's work special was Tolkien himself, and removing him hurts the work. Same deal with Filmation cartoons--the minute you see a version they weren't involved with, it immediately takes a nosedive. To be fair, some of those versions can at least be interesting fanfiction, but they always wind up feeling like they lost everything that made Filmation's versions great.

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Dude. How many cartoons are there where a hero and villain can just sit down and have a conversation? I've seen modern cartoons that do that, but its always in shows like Sonic Boom where its clear from the outset the "heroes" and "villains" aren't really all that opposed anyway, and the show itself is clearly not meant to be taken seriously.

In this case though? Evil-Lyn is a recurring character from day one, and its quite clear that, goofy as Skeletor can be, he and his minions have been a problem for awhile. So episodes that say she's got more going on than "evil for evil's sake" spark the imagination. I immediately got the idea that she has trust issues but is also desperate for companionship (how quick she was to save Teela from that sandworm and didn't even try to play it off as a "because I still need you" thing speaks volumes).
Heck, shows for adults often have a problem of writing "evil for the sake of evil" villains. I recall people praising the Nolan Batman films as being high art... and yet their grasp of any sort of meaningful theme or characterization is being trounced by a kids cartoon from 1983.

The depth doesn't stop there.

I myself just re-watched that episode and was shocked at all the little details I forgot. First, the good wizard dude who calls for He-Man and Teela at the beginning of the episode is actually from another episode, "Wizard of Stone Mountain" (where he had to be saved from demonic temptation and admits he used to have a thing for Teela). While you can watch this episode stand-alone and enjoy it, this is a show where the more you know, the more it adds to your understanding of events.

Oh, and there's an episode in Season Two that is a direct sequel to this one, where evil fat turban wizard guy is still a slug and tricks another wizard into undoing the spell.. then specifically guns for Evil-Lyn after that. This tendency for minor arcs to continue carries on into the She-Ra cartoon, which is part of why I count it and He-Man as being basically the same show. (examples: He-Man episode. She-Ra episode that continues the arc).

Even a minor element like He-Man's mom is given a backstory... which gets called back to more than once.

Then of course the planets of Eternia and Etheria themselves are given a lot that suggests a rich history (moreso in Eternia's case--the She-Ra series has a "rebels versus an empire" premise which, understandibly, means that you hear more about the Evil Horde than you do about the history of Etheria). I wish someone would make an open world game where you could explore these planets... as long as they don't do the boring Breath of the Wild thing where every legendary location is just a shrine or a korok seed.

Both shows also had awesome variety. One day it's alternate dimensions, another day its "they need this ancient dragon to save Man-at-Arms' life but the dragon will only do it if He-Man kills somebody for him." I also like that sometimes the shows are serious and other times they're funny, but lacking that "jarring tonal shift" quality modern cartoons can sometimes have (it helps that those aren't literally the same episode).

[NOTE: I'm not sure why the official youtube channel for She-Ra screws up their uploads. I had been using an alternative but this was a case where the alternative had an even worse screw up]

This is all one case where I feel like the Eighties Cartoon standard format of being more like short stories rather than being a continuous serialized story helps out. In serialization you often have to pick and choose what to focus on. The 2003 He-Man tried to be a continuous story and that meant we never got Queen Marlena being from Earth, never got Evil-Lyn having depth, we never got She-Ra at all (though she was planned).... the short story format just gives writers more options, and makes the show feel more like a kid-friendly version of Robert E. Howard.

I like media that sets the imagination ablaze and gives me a lot I can sink my teeth into. That's rare to come across. Even the DCAU doesn't quite manage it to my satisfaction. These shows do.

And finally... the art and the soundtrack are fucking peak (unless you're really bothered by the stock footage, which I'm not)
 
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Cuh, you could have made a thread about any lame ass decade, but you chose the 1980s???? The dark age for tv animation? Grandpa, time to log off the computer and go back to the nursing home. I don’t wish dementia on my worst enemy.

Did you at least like The New Adventures of Mighty Mouse?
 
Did you at least like The New Adventures of Mighty Mouse?
Thanks for getting that theme song stuck in my head.

EDIT: For those who have never had the pleasure, here:


One thing though: the version I always saw on TV had a voice over at the beginning where a voice shouted "Bakshi Entertainment presents MIGHTY MOUSE! THE NEW ADVENTURES!" This version does not. I think the VO is there on the DVDs tho.

Incidentally its called "Mighty Mouse, The New Adventures" because there was an unrelated cartoon from the 1970s called "The New Adventures of Mighty Mouse." I usually just call this one "Bakshi's Mighty Mouse" to avoid that confusion.
 
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Widget was gay.
Dungeons and Dragons was based.




Also Robotech.
 
I must've been born in the wrong decade for cartoons. The only ones I remember watching were the ones tied to video games.:stress:

I did watch the DuckTales reboot recently, and it was actually pretty good.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0B7A7rWcH5I
I couldn't get into it. Some of the ideas were fine but all the characters besides maybe Donald made me wanna slap them upside the head.
 
I couldn't get into it. Some of the ideas were fine but all the characters besides maybe Donald made me wanna slap them upside the head.
When you've read the old comics and watched the old Ducktales, I feel like everyone should have the same sensibility of 'not getting into it'. I dare not even press that play button.
 
All the characters looked wrong and sounded wrong.
I don't understand the decision to throw away the classic Disney art style that everyone loves for ugly Cal-Arts square-headed ducks.
 
When you've read the old comics and watched the old Ducktales, I feel like everyone should have the same sensibility of 'not getting into it'. I dare not even press that play button.
The main thing that made me curious to try 2017 Ducktales was that I had heard it basically becomes a fanfic fever dream crossover of all the Disney Afternoon shows, so I was curious how they handled a lot of them--even ones like Talespin which I didn't like all that much.

But I only got fifteen episodes into season one and just... could not take it anymore.

Don't get me wrong, the 1980s Ducktales wasn't exactly too pure for this sinful Earth either, but it at least had a likability and optimism about it. 2017 Ducktales was just a bunch of annoying cynical hipsters in a mish-mash of plots where characters very often just behaved however the scene in question needed them to, even if it made no sense or directly went against everything established up to that point.

The original Ducktales had a problem of a lot of the side characters being annoying, but the 2017 one extends this to the MAIN characters. Donald is about the only one I still found likable.

..... Sigh. And then soon after they made a Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers movie, which I've heard nothing but bad things about. I'm not gonna watch it.

I don't even want to think what they'd do to Gummi Bears if it got a remake.
 
American cartoons in the 80s were corny and gay. Japan in the 80s had Gundam, Macross and Dragon Ball Completely obliteration.


At least the 90s had cartoon cartoon, classic nicktoons. ren and stimpy and batman the animated series. But the 80s blow. The few 80s american cartoons i remember liking don't hold up at all compared to the 90s ones and 80s anime
 
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