2026 Belfast Riots - Will one Sudanese manage to unite Billy and Mickey?

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ur_mom_lmaoooo dijo:
Is this legit, or just a larp after all? Do European countries in general have the balls to form groups like this?
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The fundamental issue isn't courage or radicalization, it's the coordination bottleneck. Past governments had a tradeoff between competence and political reliability, which allowed for counter-elites and organization with those around you, and this one does not. There is no political allowance made for allowing young men to do the sorts of things and reach the sorts of positions that they must in order to keep society running in good order. The Belfast lads are a pre-existing organization that's existed since the Troubles, meaning they did not have to start from scratch gathering up random men and figuring out whether they were feds or politically reliable.

If you want to Do Something in Europe today, you have to deal with internet censorship, HR commissars surveilling the workplace, and an intelligence community that exists solely to infiltrate, sabotage, and ultimately arrest any group opposed to the regime. One wrong guess about who to recruit compromises an entire organization effort, and tactics and actions must be learned from scratch in a heavily-censored social media ecosystem where any wrong move is lethal.

There are ways around this, I've been planning to write about them somewhere. I do suspect that the first reasonably-successful lone wolf attack against one of the judges letting the rape locusts free will be replicated dozens of times over, and the first one where the attacker gets away clean will spark even more replications. Lots of young guys with nothing left to lose.
 
The Gay Oboma Creature dijo:
The fundamental issue isn't courage or radicalization, it's the coordination bottleneck. Past governments had a tradeoff between competence and political reliability, which allowed for counter-elites and organization with those around you, and this one does not. There is no political allowance made for allowing young men to do the sorts of things and reach the sorts of positions that they must in order to keep society running in good order. The Belfast lads are a pre-existing organization that's existed since the Troubles, meaning they did not have to start from scratch gathering up random men and figuring out whether they were feds or politically reliable.

If you want to Do Something in Europe today, you have to deal with internet censorship, HR commissars surveilling the workplace, and an intelligence community that exists solely to infiltrate, sabotage, and ultimately arrest any group opposed to the regime. One wrong guess about who to recruit compromises an entire organization effort, and tactics and actions must be learned from scratch in a heavily-censored social media ecosystem where any wrong move is lethal.

There are ways around this, I've been planning to write about them somewhere. I do suspect that the first reasonably-successful lone wolf attack against one of the judges letting the rape locusts free will be replicated dozens of times over, and the first one where the attacker gets away clean will spark even more replications. Lots of young guys with nothing left to lose.
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Are there any comparable situations in recent history (so roughly same level of technological surveillance capabilities) like this that people could theoretically draw inspiration from?
 
ur_mom_lmaoooo dijo:
Are there any comparable situations in recent history (so roughly same level of technological surveillance capabilities) like this that people could theoretically draw inspiration from?
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Not to my knowledge. The trucker protests are an excellent example of peaceful organization at scale, as are the not-strikes by pilots. As far as violent examples, the best example I can find remains Breivik, who was quite a bit more intelligent than average, and definitely more intelligent than the usual patsies that get groomed by FBI agents into shooting up tactically irrelevant and highly-sympathetic targets.

Breivik is an interesting topic, for this reason. If we saw organic lone wolves, they'd look a lot like him:
  • Extensively-planned attack on critical infrastructure of his country's opposing political faction which cannot be easily replaced.
    • Significant research put into target acquisition; not just going after the nearest thing that looks vaguely hostile.
    • Similarly, clear goals that didn't depend on assumptions. He did not intend to "wake the people up" or "start a civil war". He wanted to eliminate his enemies' reserve of elite talent.
  • Involved multiple stages and contingencies. He disguised himself as law enforcement at one point.
  • Forced Zionists to take the blame for his actions by claiming he did it for them, precluding any real backlash.
    • On that note, no cringy Google Drive manifesto consisting of unambiguous endorsements for everything the government wants to ban.
Luigi, assuming the theories about him having help are true, is a potential good example. The trend persists in that he's an extremely agentic, very smart guy. The sort of guy who would ordinarily have a lot to lose. Good article on Luigi.


I think that any new organization, and I've heard people talk about this, would be built up around dual-use capabilities. A first responder unit like the ones that provided hurricane relief when the federal government refused would be an ideal starting point. Something that doesn't by its nature attract infiltrators (nor antisocial retards who'd be liabilities), but can involve vetting for men that are competent, agentic, and of the right ideological priors. Political organizations are another starting point; if you get into one and get the most promising people into a shared GC, and make friends with the best handful off the record, this can be invaluable. Family, provided you've got one that's both good and large, is a natural organizing base - a couple of brothers or cousins and you have a squad that's intrinsically reliable. If I were a far rightist looking to organize his own private army, I'd stress-test my unit with legal but edgy stuff - bananas on local Floyd statues; postering campaigns.

I did hear of some groups of men riding out in the suburbs during the BLM riots to head off rioters. I think this news kept them contained to the cities; the regime didn't want to pick a fight and kick something off. Similar deal as Belfast; they know that trying to crush rebels by force just leads to a preference cascade.

Bundy Ranch, come to think of it, is as fantastic of a real world example as you can get. Lads stood down the feds and won. Older guys with a strong community around them, who could reliably call on friends and family to help them with a shared goal.


Finally, on a kind of autistic note, I think crypto could be of real value on this front. Some guy putting up a bunch of money for whoever can get some guys and stage a funny-but-legal real life prank that makes the regime look bad? Great. Make it a contest, with prizes large enough to indicate that this is something real but small enough that it can be part of someone's monthly entertainment budget, each group tags their prank with an XMR address. Over a couple of cycles, more people might pitch in as donors, and pranksters might up their game to win the prize. Could start out with people putting up silly posters on streetpoles, and end with groups of 4-5 guys each collaborating to disrupt leftie riots, tricking them into walking into no-go zones or something.


ETA: This story, though fictional, is extremely entertaining, and grounded enough to be believable. Rewarding read.

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The Gay Oboma Creature dijo:
Breivik is an interesting topic
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I'm Norwegian. It was 15 years ago, I was not racist at the time, and I never dove into the details, but there are some points you may not be aware of;
He bombed the government offices in the middle of summer, when he would have known that most workers (especially anyone important) would not be present.
His plan at Utøya was to kill former prime minister Gro Harlem Brundtland, who was scheduled to speak at the AUF summer camp. I believe he also only went there because he initially fled towards Sweden, before he realised no one was actually chasing him, and he took the opportunity to execute another (planned) attack.

Like I said I never dove in, but there are parts of his plan that were smart and meticulously executed (police uniform), and other parts that were, from the outside and of course with hindsight, not as smart or well executed (timing of the initial attack). The results of his attacks are that the so called worker's party (Arbeiderpartiet, AP) surged in popularity, people rallied around the poor browns, the progress party (Fremskrittspartiet, FRP) that he was briefly a member of are to this day still maligned, and his name is always brought up to silence discussion about the danger of islam (because he is White and not muslim). AP still sometimes use the "we were targeted by a terrorist attack" line for sympathy.

Things are shifting, and currently FRP is likely to get the PM next election, but I think that's in spite of Breivik. In my opinion as a retard, the ways to use terror to actually further your goals is either by repeated, unrelenting, and overwhelming attacks of opportunity (muslim terror), surgical attacks on high-level targets (kidnapping Maduro*), or by some extremely meticulous false flag - but if it is exposed or even suspected as a false flag, you may have hurt your own side irreparably, and even IF you could successfully commit a false flag attack, you would still have to rely on the media to not lie about it. In short I think terrorism is a terrible strategy to gain political support.

*I'm not saying kidnapping Maduro was terror but I can't think of any better examples of this strategy.
 
Grug dijo:
I'm Norwegian. It was 15 years ago, I was not racist at the time, and I never dove into the details, but there are some points you may not be aware of;
He bombed the government offices in the middle of summer, when he would have known that most workers (especially anyone important) would not be present.
His plan at Utøya was to kill former prime minister Gro Harlem Brundtland, who was scheduled to speak at the AUF summer camp. I believe he also only went there because he initially fled towards Sweden, before he realised no one was actually chasing him, and he took the opportunity to execute another (planned) attack.

Like I said I never dove in, but there are parts of his plan that were smart and meticulously executed (police uniform), and other parts that were, from the outside and of course with hindsight, not as smart or well executed (timing of the initial attack). The results of his attacks are that the so called worker's party (Arbeiderpartiet, AP) surged in popularity, people rallied around the poor browns, the progress party (Fremskrittspartiet, FRP) that he was briefly a member of are to this day still maligned, and his name is always brought up to silence discussion about the danger of islam (because he is White and not muslim). AP still sometimes use the "we were targeted by a terrorist attack" line for sympathy.

Things are shifting, and currently FRP is likely to get the PM next election, but I think that's in spite of Breivik. In my opinion as a retard, the ways to use terror to actually further your goals is either by repeated, unrelenting, and overwhelming attacks of opportunity (muslim terror), surgical attacks on high-level targets (kidnapping Maduro*), or by some extremely meticulous false flag - but if it is exposed or even suspected as a false flag, you may have hurt your own side irreparably, and even IF you could successfully commit a false flag attack, you would still have to rely on the media to not lie about it. In short I think terrorism is a terrible strategy to gain political support.

*I'm not saying kidnapping Maduro was terror but I can't think of any better examples of this strategy.
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counterpoint: breivik wiped out dozens of leftist activist youth on utoya
if they had lived, many of them would most likely be active contributors to leftist politics today
how exactly their removal has changed the trajectory of the commie party they were part of is impossible to say, but i'm confident that the organisation is at least somewhat weaker today than it would be if they were still around. he's no otoya yamaguchi (maybe he would be if he had succeeded in taking out gro harlem) but he definitely made an impact
 
DumbDude43 dijo:
counterpoint: breivik wiped out dozens of leftist activist youth on utoya
if they had lived, many of them would most likely be active contributors to leftist politics today
how exactly their removal has changed the trajectory of the commie party they were part of is impossible to say, but i'm confident that the organisation is at least somewhat weaker today than it would be if they were still around. he's no otoya yamaguchi (maybe he would be if he had succeeded in taking out gro harlem) but he definitely made an impact
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It's impossible to say what might have been, but I think he galvanised the leftists in a way that would never have happened otherwise. Yes, he may have killed all those activist kids, but how many more did he create, and how much more strongly do they feel?
 

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Gemarakup dijo:
Hilarious to see LARPers in the thread sincereposting over a Loyalist chimpout in Europe’s recreational rioting capital. They riot over everything in this city, it was an Irish area and yet the victim’s family and community are sitting it out. The riots in England and the Republic were more meaningful than this. Uneducated, semi-illiterate retards just want to smash shit up (not even shit that’s related to the inciting incident)
and of course the Europe / America shitflinging about who is cucked and who is based
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this post aged well

sorry for sowing doubt and weakening resolve with my blackpill-demotivation counter intel CIA NIGGER ops against kwikies finest situation monitors, I guess it turned out to be a nothingburger after all.

remember kids, don’t cry because it’s over, smile because it happened. take your black pills like a big boy and don’t treat happenings as srs bsns while fedposting about white jihad from the comfort of your cuckchair
 
Gemarakup dijo:
this post aged well

sorry for sowing doubt and weakening resolve with my blackpill-demotivation counter intel CIA NIGGER ops against kwikies finest situation monitors, I guess it turned out to be a nothingburger after all.

remember kids, don’t cry because it’s over, smile because it happened. take your black pills like a big boy and don’t treat happenings as srs bsns while fedposting about white jihad from the comfort of your cuckchair
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Okay Wacky Paki, you're going back home.
 
A random street in Duluth dijo:
And it ended up in a nothingburger, except dozens of people getting arrested for mean social media posts.

Can't wait to bring the actual victim out of the coma and force a speech condemning racism and stressing unity from him.
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If the people of Ulster throw enough of a fit in the coming years, it could theoretically bring about change, but what kind of change is the important part. Will the government realise they made a mistake and put an end to the migrant crisis? Or the more likely option, they will simply double-triple down and choose to increase tension in the region.
 
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