2024 UK general election - Place to watch and discuss just how fucked we are

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If Britian was full of True Believers, Starmer would have won on the back of turnout, not on the opposition committing sudoku with a chainsaw. I realize that "Labor didn't win so much as the Tories lost" is concentrated copium w/r/t the absolute horrorshow that Pedo Island governance will be for the next 5 years, but it does speak to the ideological makeup of the country- there's a lot of electoral money on the table right now, and an effective leader only needs one Beria or J. Edgar Hoover.
Beria? Hoover? If there’s one thing the left loves, it’s going hard after their ideological opponents. Labor is salivating at the prospect of putting in pet projects and bringing about utopia before the decade ends. I can imagine 2020 on steroids on the streets of London.
 
I realize that "Labor didn't win so much as the Tories lost" is concentrated copium
It's true though.

And I'm sure Labour isn't exactly pleased with the fact that Wes Streeting nearly lost his seat because the Muslims turned against him. So now they have to worry about the Islamists getting feisty in some of their supposed safe seats and picking them off.
 
. Seemingly the only people happy to stay are the people that arrived yesterday.
thats correct, because being a citizen in a western country is like working at an amazon warehouse, your best day there is your first day and it gets steadily worse. if you completed first grade in the US, congrats your salary statistically is going to be half that of someone who only came here when they were teenagers or adults. and that doesn't even factor in the benefits like dedicated government positions and charities dedicated to help you "beat the system" in a way the average citizen never gets access to. look at canada, if you were born there to white canadians then you will have to struggle with a shit job market and inability to get proper housing and have to struggle with a shit education to even get accepted to your shitty universities, meanwhile immigrants just get auto-accepted to colleges, they get special houses with cheaper rents compared to citizens, affirmative action also helps them get their foot in the door and thats all before you start to factor in the ethnonarcisissm that is hilariously lacking. You know what words only white people hear from the people of their community? "fuck you, i got mine!" I know extremely religious boomers who told their own kids that they had to "forge their own path" and refused to help them get jobs, and because of that. even with those degrees and living in major metro areas, they're working at the fucking grocery store returning carts, living at home well into their 40s.

meanwhile every minority in every place i've been can speedrun their way to finding a place to stay or finding reliable tradesmen or craftsmen or finding good doctors. its truely shocking how little white americans even make up most jobs once you get above a certain $/hr and of those few white americans how many aren't either race mixers or openly and proudly abandoned white culture. Of course you can blame this on a lot of white boomers getting extremely lucky and literally not knowing the first thing about how to get a job in X industry, but it does make you wonder how even with a language barrier and a massive cultural difference how every immigrant group is able to pick up on how shit works in a modern western country while every fucking white person over the age of 40 is as socially unaware as fucking chris chan.

a lot of white people i know whine about how many non-white groups got bogus covid money, but it really does tell you how much the scales are tipped against your favor if you are stupid enough to assimilate. I had a cousin with an extremely rough upbringing and ended up getting knocked up and abandoned by the baby daddy, she tried to get on 'dem programs, but despite actual need couldn't. and no one around her could help her because they never had to use it so they had no idea how the bureaucracy works. Which should tell you how bad everything is, when your life actively would get better if you knew people who knew the ins and outs of the system and by nature of immigration and immigration services people that aren't born here have a hilarious leg up on natives on.

I can't even count how many canadians i know who only discovered the local food banks and food pantries because of news reports of indians scamming them. People that were in desperate need of food who couldn't bother figuring out where to get it until finding out on tiktok.

just in general being a "native born white" has so little benefits that its not really worth it. even the cops will harass you more just because they know they are less likely to get attacked or sued when they go after you vs a minority. being nice to those fuckers only brings more pain.
 
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We're now stuck with Labour for potentially decades. The Leftists, Muslims and other non native Brits will keep voting them into power. Labour will increase mass immigration from Third World countries into the country in order to retain power until the bread and circuses are taken away and there's an uprising.
If Britian was full of True Believers, Starmer would have won on the back of turnout, not on the opposition committing sudoku with a chainsaw. I realize that "Labor didn't win so much as the Tories lost" is concentrated copium w/r/t the absolute horrorshow that Pedo Island governance will be for the next 5 years, but it does speak to the ideological makeup of the country- there's a lot of electoral money on the table right now, and an effective leader only needs one Beria or J. Edgar Hoover.
Pedo Island? The UK is nothing compared to America. The US of A is the fucking Mecca of the nonce world.
 
Pedo Island? The UK is nothing compared to America. The US of A is the fucking Mecca of the nonce world.
I dunno about that. I think Ukraine might be the Mecca. That's where Ghislaine sourced most of her sex slaves.

Or Thailand. A lot of paedos go to Thailand.
We're now stuck with Labour for potentially decades. The Leftists, Muslims and other non native Brits will keep voting them into power. Labour will increase mass immigration from Third World countries into the country in order to retain power until the bread and circuses are taken away and there's an uprising.
It will take literally decades to affect the kind of changes you're thinking about. That's if the infrastructure doesn't completely collapse first, bankrupting the country and ensuring that most of these freeloaders go home because there's no money here.

Tories, with their speed bumps, are bound to get in again at least once
 
It will take literally decades to affect the kind of changes you're thinking about. That's if the infrastructure doesn't completely collapse first, bankrupting the country and ensuring that most of these freeloaders go home because there's no money here.
TBH, if Labor goes all in on their ideal utopia, they may end up speedrunning some kind of collapse. And then the bets have got to be off.

And I'm sure Labour isn't exactly pleased with the fact that Wes Streeting nearly lost his seat because the Muslims turned against him. So now they have to worry about the Islamists getting feisty in some of their supposed safe seats and picking them off.
I’d have to think Muslims turning against them would be an absolute nightmare for the posh part of Labor, especially if some Islamists try their hands at politics in the future. Because then they’d have to confront some parts of Islam that would make them uncomfortable and “might make them look like bigots” or worse, prove Nigel Farage and Britain First right.
 
Does the British parliament have anything like that?
I don't think so, no
If not, I can't imagine why having a "supermajority" would matter.
A supermajority means the ruling party can get anything passed without support from the fringe elements on the backbench. It's sort of like, you know how Kevin McCarthy went around sabotaging winnable races for Republicans during the mid-terms because they wouldn't suck his cock? And then he had trouble getting confirmed as Speaker and eventually got booted because Matt Gaetz and his allies became a lot more powerful. It's exactly like that here.
 
TBH, if Labor goes all in on their ideal utopia, they may end up speedrunning some kind of collapse. And then the bets have got to be off.


I’d have to think Muslims turning against them would be an absolute nightmare for the posh part of Labor, especially if some Islamists try their hands at politics in the future. Because then they’d have to confront some parts of Islam that would make them uncomfortable and “might make them look like bigots” or worse, prove Nigel Farage and Britain First right.
Funny you should say that because Labour MP Jess Philips, who has accused Tommy Robinson of "racism" for exposing the evils of Islam, was shouted and jeered at by a group of Islamic males while she was trying to give her victory speech during the election.

 
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I can't wait for the troon factory at the Tavistock to be re-opened!!!! :story:
Unlikely for that, however they were already opening new outlets to replace it under the Tories. Despite the histrionics Tavistock's closure did not mean the whole thing stopped, it's just that specific one that got so bad it could not be hidden and using the same place again is poor optics.

Though nominally the new ones should be under close scrutiny given what happened and then the Cass report I suspect the NHS will ensure only true believers are involved to avoid whistle blowers this time. Of course that also means ideological purity will be prioritised over competence, clean records or sanity which means the new places could be much worse. The good side to that is they will likely speed run their closures because they will make more mistakes and not cover them up as well.
 
Labour’s gains will erode quickly as people will come to think that ‘the Tories got the message’.

Have you chaps considered adopting a republican system of government instead of this questionable parliamentary system that doesn’t even have a real constitution? While you’re at it, might be good to give Scotland a real national animal, too.
 
If you're thinking that Labor is going to push for no borders to encourage more mass migration, this could have an interesting effect in the EU as the number of migrants trying to enter the EU in order to transit it swells.

It will probably push the continent even more to the right.
 
Glad the Tories are gone, but I don't have much faith in Starmer.
I mean, Labour since Blair has been Tory-lite so I don't know it it's much of a difference.

The man is dull as dishwater, for one thing.
There's also:
As head of the Crown Prosecution Service, Starmer was responsible for a number of controversial decisions.

For example, in 2010 he initially refused to prosecute police officer Simon Harwood, who at a G20 demonstration in London struck 47-year old Ian Tomlinson, who was not part of the protest but simply heading home. In 2011, an inquest ruled that Tomlinson had been killed unlawfully. Harwood was later acquitted of manslaughter but dismissed from the force.

Starmer also refused to prosecute police officers involved in the killing of Jean Charles de Menezes by police marksmen on a train at Stockwell Tube Station, in a case of mistaken identity.

The CPS further refused to prosecute UK government bodies (including MI6 and MI5) for their part in the abduction, rendition, and torture of three Libyan dissidents, despite incriminating evidence.

Starmer also supported the rapid prosecution of ‘rioters‘ involved in street protests.

And he brought in new guidelines that meant ‘benefit cheats’ could end up with 10 years imprisonment for fraud.

I wonder if we're going to end up in the position of the americunts with two shades of the right wing as oppositional parties?
 
Unlikely for that, however they were already opening new outlets to replace it under the Tories. Despite the histrionics Tavistock's closure did not mean the whole thing stopped, it's just that specific one that got so bad it could not be hidden and using the same place again is poor optics.
Starmer doesn't support transitioning kids and he more or less gets to control the parliamentary agenda.

I think the first big Labour meltdown will be a backbench revolt where they start whining why nobody cares about the troons.
 
I wonder if we're going to end up in the position of the americunts with two shades of the right wing as oppositional parties?
It's not about left and right and hasn't been for years. The big three are all different branches of the same paternalist, statist, pro-immigration, anti-privacy fuckheads, while the minnows are generally single-issue parties who broadly agree with the big three, and whose only real problem is that the majors don't autistically focus on their particular issue as much as they like. The only difference between tory, labour, and lib dem is how they justify any given common stance. For instance, the tories want more immigrants to reduce worker power and suppress wages, labour want more immigrants to pay for the ever-growing NHS and pensions/benefits promises they'll make, and the lib dems want more immigration to "correct historical wrongs". The net result is more pakis and west albanians piling in to the country no matter who is in charge. Pick any subject and you'll find that the colourful rosette is just window-dressing for the same fundamental policy.
 
On the internet, I'm seeing foreigners talk about the election more than Brits. The classic "pedo/turf island voted communism!" which is, no.

The other thing that's weird is this whole "supermajoirity" thing. It seems to be yet another American import and as far as I can tell, doesn't mean anything in UK politics. According to wikipedia, it refers to having more than 60% of the government. That's it. Though the specific number varies. It sounds like propaganda from those that are pro-labour to me. If Supermajority means something in US politics, please let me know.

Pedo Island? The UK is nothing compared to America. The US of A is the fucking Mecca of the nonce world.
You don't get the insult. That's okay because it's dumb.

First, by pedo island they mean paedo island.

Second, they're referring to the age of consent, which in the US is either 18 or 21 depending on who you ask.
 
On the internet, I'm seeing foreigners talk about the election more than Brits. The classic "pedo/turf island voted communism!" which is, no.

The other thing that's weird is this whole "supermajoirity" thing. It seems to be yet another American import and as far as I can tell, doesn't mean anything in UK politics. According to wikipedia, it refers to having more than 60% of the government. That's it. Though the specific number varies. It sounds like propaganda from those that are pro-labour to me. If Supermajority means something in US politics, please let me know.


You don't get the insult. That's okay because it's dumb.

First, by pedo island they mean paedo island.

Second, they're referring to the age of consent, which in the US is either 18 or 21 depending on who you ask.
In the US, having a supermajority in the Senate allows the US President to circumvent the filibuster and actually get things done.
 
On the internet, I'm seeing foreigners talk about the election more than Brits. The classic "pedo/turf island voted communism!" which is, no.

The other thing that's weird is this whole "supermajoirity" thing. It seems to be yet another American import and as far as I can tell, doesn't mean anything in UK politics. According to wikipedia, it refers to having more than 60% of the government. That's it. Though the specific number varies. It sounds like propaganda from those that are pro-labour to me. If Supermajority means something in US politics, please let me know.
A working majority might be a better term since there are times when you have dissent in the back-benchers or MPs just don't turn up to vote. I think that there is generally slightly more dissent amongst UK MPs than US Congressmen which I always got the impression very rarely disented against the Party in Congress. That's why parties have Whips in the first place. The bigger your majority means you need to spend less
 
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