2024 Syrian opposition offensives - The first Syrian rebel offensive against Government forces since March 2020

[Ishtar]

Then you're an absolutely shit fuck awful historian. Literally the worst. I have no idea how you can sit here and tell me you're a student of history while simultaneously telling me that being precise with terms is pointless.

Precision has its place? It can also confuse and disorientate. If we were in a lecture hall then yes you want to be pedantic about the details down to the letter, but discourses of nuance often conceal as much as they reveal.

It is my firm view that the message "Jolani is a Sunni jihadist" be drilled firmly into the public's head. Damn the nuances of prior factional disputes.

Good thing he's not AQ.

HTS is literally Al-Nusra rebranded, (well they officially severed ties but how true that is, is anyone's guess).

No. I've already addressed this. He literally fought against AQ.

https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hts_fto.html

"During the initial years of Syria’s insurgency, infighting among Nusrah Front, ISIS, and factions aligned with these groups for territory, revenue, and resistance to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime led some leaders to shift allegiances. Most notably, Nusrah Front leader Abu Muhammad al-Jawlani broke with al-Qa‘ida in 2016 because of strategic disagreements. In 2017 the Nusrah Front merged with other antiregime groups in northwestern Syria to form HTS. HTS later established the Syrian Salvation Government, with 10 ministries to govern its territory. In 2018, HTS defectors who remained loyal to al-Qa‘ida formed the al-Qa‘ida branch in Syria, known as Hurras al-Din."

"strategic disagreement"

This is also an official US government source so don't tell me its russian or iranian propaganda.

It seems Jolani's split was on the basis of overarching strategy and political challenges-not anything to do with what the man believes.

From what it looks like(to me anyway), is Jolani and HTS basically "Syrianized" Al-Qaeda, making nice with other rebel factions and moderating at least rhetorically so as to form a broad coalition with the same goals. In other words, Jolani made smart political decisions-he is still a jihadist by background.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

World in Scarlet regurgitating this material makes me suspect he's not doing it on his free time. (The State department works with the private sector specifically for the purpose of disrupting online communities and triggering confusion).

Where can I sign up to get sweet sweet CIAbux for calling ziggers, resistards and the occasional wumao faggots???

 

[Ishtar]

Where can I sign up to get sweet sweet CIAbux for calling ziggers, resistards and the occasional wumao faggots???

You need to be a transgender intern in the state department's internet focused soft power office.

 

[FunPosting101]

Anyone who thinks something good is going to come out of the collapse of Syria is kidding themselves, IMO. Yeah, Assad was a piece of shit, so was Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein and various other strong men dictators in that part of the world. Their removal and/or deaths did not really improve much of anything though, because real life is not some idealistic work of fiction, and places that have no real, strong, concept of nationhood will likely either collapse into anarchy or simply replace one tyrant with another.

 

[Ishtar]

What you'll get at best is some extremely weak "transitional" government while Jihadists loot and burn the country. Kill as minorities as they can, and Turkey and Israel establish respect spheres of influence in the country's north and south.

There will be no "institutions", no rise in living standards, just more refugees, more anarchy.

Ruin.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

An important thing to note about Israeli gains in Syria is that most of those will likely be returned as a peace settlement, similar to Sinai with Egypt.

Not that it stops the Frogs from complaining on how Israel should retain a non optimal border against a currently nebulous forces.

I want to believe Allie Jay will be a moderate Sunni Islamist and I want to believe Israel will just give its most recent land grab back.

However, I will remain highly skeptical of both outcomes until I see them happen.

 

[Enoch Emery]

Good thing he's not AQ.

"Guys I was only in al-Qaeda until I was 34 years old! It was just a phase!"
The only reason Jabhat al-Nusra became Jabhat Fatah al-Sham is because the name "al-Qaeda" was unoptical. They eventually fought with official al-Qaeda (Hurras al-Din), but so did ISIS, so not a very compelling argument. They continue to have no problem with Ansar al-Islam, Jabhat Ansar al-Din, Ansar al-Tawhid (actually, literally ISIS), the Turkistan Islamic Party, and so many others.

 

[MrJokerRager]

"Guys I was only in al-Qaeda until I was 34 years old! It was just a phase!"

I can't wait for the meltdown when Boden removes that HTS headchopper from the terrorist list.

Last I saw, polymarket is going with a YES.

 

[3-2-1836]

"Guys I was only in al-Qaeda until I was 34 years old! It was just a phase!"
The only reason Jabhat al-Nusra became Jabhat Fatah al-Sham is because the name "al-Qaeda" was unoptical. They eventually fought with official al-Qaeda (Hurras al-Din), but so did ISIS, so not a very compelling argument. They continue to have no problem with Ansar al-Islam, Jabhat Ansar al-Din, Ansar al-Tawhid (actually, literally ISIS), the Turkistan Islamic Party, and so many others.

You need to remember something, Syria has 3 million Alawites, and 2 million Christians, and 2 million Kurds and a population of only 23 million people.

Hitler with 4 million frontline troops, 8 million auxiliaries, German industrial efficiency and full support of 80 million Germans could barely kill 6 Million jews.

HTS has only 30,000 fighters under their control, what makes you think they're in any position to try to oppress 7 million people?

 

[draggs]

You know what, if Jolani ends up creating an irl technocratic futurist technojihad he has my full support, that would simply be too hilarious to opposse

Fully automated luxury space camel DERKA DERKA

 

[Ghostse]

HTS spokesman Obeida Arnaout is asked by Channel 4 News about Israel’s strikes on over 300 sites in Syria (latest update: 480 strikes). He refused to denounce Israel’s massive airstrikes and ground incursions. When pressed, he offered vague, general comments.

https://twitter.com/DropSiteNews/status/1866943522609463346

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Real translation:

By the Prophet's (pbuh) beard, you absolute dipshit gorilla nigger, haven't you seen what the fuck they did to Hamas and Hezbollah? We don't want that fuckin smoke. Keep being a retard and by Allah I will beat you with my shoe

Given how fast everything happened, from Israel taking the Golan to SAA collapsing, it would not surprise me to find out that HTS made a deal with Israel. We let you explode the Syrian cold-war strategic stockpile and occupy additional Golan positions, you give us the full support of Mossad + money.

I mean, not gonna self dox, but yes? I do have an academic background in the subject matter. I would have gone further, but my heart wasn't in it(getting a PhD or w/e). I can find the degree and crop my name out if you want?

Lol sure what ever Jew Glowie. You have a background in sucking dick for cock and being a Jew-controlled glow poster.

You need to be a transgender intern in the state department's internet focused soft power office.

You know from experience then? How long were you a Jew's tranny coffeeboy?

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I don't see how Israel gives up Mt. Hermon and a land bridge to there.

Probably not the high ground. But the low ground isn't worth it unless the Druze there petition for Israel to retain control.

 

[Snekposter]

I would argue that US/Israel are always gonna be his no. 1 targets, once he has the capacity to hit them.

blessed with a good survival instinct and a dose of pragmatism

The events of the past decade or so, culminating in the toppling of al-Assad, have proven these two things to be mutually exclusive. The only group that chalked up a win against the West was the Taliban, and the USA had absolutely zero strategic reason to keep fucking around there, unlike in the Middle East. Ghadaffi, al-Assad, Saddam Hussein, Soleimani, god knows how many Iranian nuclear physicists, a massive chunk of Hezbollah and Hamas.. they are - may Allah forgive me for quoting a Marvel movie - gone, reduced to atoms. Israel still stands, the USA still stands, and now Iran is the last man standing.

the ZiG in Zimbabwe

I swear there's a Zero Wing joke in there somewhere...

What did Gaddafi do to piss the French off so much if it wasn't trying to replace their pet currencies with an African Union one? I never said it was going to work, but just idea of it was an existential threat to French reserve currency and banking strategy.

Aside from constantly get in fights with Chad, a French not-colony? It was French airstrikes that bought Chad time to regroup and French advisors who got their military sorted out, leading to the Toyota War phase of that conflict where French airstrikes continued to be crucial in disrupting Libyan combat operations.

I know the French are fucking lazy, but you're trying to tell me it took the frogs 20-30 years to do something about him?

There's probably a few Frenchmen mad about Agincourt still and I guarantee you the whole nation is mad about Napoleon still. This is Europe, where a grudge a century old is considered fresh.

Probably not the high ground. But the low ground isn't worth it unless the Druze there petition for Israel to retain control.

Good chances of that. Israel has a decent-sized Druze minority and they much prefer Jewish rule to Arab rule. They don't cause trouble so the Israelis have no desire to wipe them out in the name of Yahweh (unlike the Arabs who will kill people just because they prefer one species of goat to fuck over another) and since they're not Jewish they're exempt from the conscription laws.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Good chances of that. Israel has a decent-sized Druze minority and they much prefer Jewish rule to Arab rule. They don't cause trouble so the Israelis have no desire to wipe them out in the name of Yahweh (unlike the Arabs who will kill people just because they prefer one species of goat to fuck over another) and since they're not Jewish they're exempt from the conscription laws.

Druze do have a mandatory army conscription (only for males though). Christians and Muslims don't have it. They are pretty fun guys from what I remember.

I wish all Arabs were cool like them...

 

[teriyakiburns]

I swear there's a Zero Wing joke in there somewhere...

all your farm are belong to us

 

[UnfOrtuNatE BaskEtt]

Well, just being a retard on twitter is not funny enough for a whole thread. Cows require more "oomph" to them, if you know what I mean.

She's (well, was) a Bashar simp that lives in Australia and just says dumb bullshit in support of the goverment, she was one of the ones who bought all of that "Assad has 100k paratroopers" delusion

and she hates Israel to fukn death and back....but in that respect I guess she's just an average ayrab....i also suspect she has had lip augmentation....or else somewhere in her ancestry is one of those Giant Napoleon Fish...and she paints those lips cock-sucker crimson, which I am sure is a bit haram....

 

[Hej22122]

Well, just being a retard on twitter is not funny enough for a whole thread. Cows require more "oomph" to them, if you know what I mean.

She's (well, was) a Bashar simp that lives in Australia and just says dumb bullshit in support of the goverment, she was one of the ones who bought all of that "Assad has 100k paratroopers" delusion

That just seems like political retardation, which seems quite common imo.

 

[ovenmath]

Pretty happy that Europe is taking loudly about deporting the syrian refugees.

 

[Fuck Bankers]

Pretty happy that Europe is taking loudly about deporting the syrian refugees.

I hope this change in Syria will be a positive for the world round. Israelis can sleep easier, Europeans can sleep easier. Not to mention this gives both America an upper hand v Russia, as well as Israel v Iran. I don't think we have a lot of Syrians in America, but dealing with the cartels in South America hopefully will have a similar effect.

 

[Pierre D'Olnique]

The shit about people being rescues from torture bunkers is the supposed fallout of this, right? Then how come all the filmed "victims" are normal looking males with neatly cut/groomed hair and pristine skin, contrary to what the report says about malnourished ghouls with stunted/missing limbs?

Speaking of.

Groomed beard and moustache. Healthy skin. Clean fingernails. Literally looks healthier than the ghoul reporter.