US Five Oregon Counties Vote to Secede and Join Idaho

Originally written by Michael Patrick Leahy on May 19, 2021

Five rural Oregon counties voted on Tuesday to secede from the state of Oregon and join the state of Idaho.

The Idaho Statesman reported:

Thousands of people in eastern Oregon voted Tuesday for their elected officials to consider ditching their state and becoming part of Idaho.
Voters in Sherman, Lake, Grant, Baker and Malheur counties all voted for ballot measures that would lead to them becoming Idahoans. People in Union and Jefferson counties had already voted in favor during the November election. . .
The vote is only the first step of the “Greater Idaho” project, which would allow some Oregon counties to join a state that advocates say more closely aligns with their political preferences.

Breitbart News reported in April that a political action committee and a new 501 c 4 non profit group are driving efforts that will allow rural counties in Oregon to join Idaho:

Move Oregon’s Border is a Political Action Committee formed in 2019 that focuses on Oregon ballot initiatives. In March, Move Oregon’s Border founder Michael McCarter announced the establishment of a 501 c 4, Citizens for Greater Idaho, which will focus “on Idaho, Oregon, and beyond, to support the vision of Move Oregon’s Border.” . . .
Petitions gathered by Move Oregon’s Border have forced the placement of ballot initiatives to change the border between Oregon and Idaho for consideration by voters in nine Oregon counties.
Ballot initiatives to change the border between Oregon and Idaho have already been voted on in four Oregon counties. Two counties (Union and Jefferson) voted in favor of moving the border in November, while two additional counties (Douglas and Wallowa) voted against changing the border.
On May 18, the ballot initiative to change the border between Oregon and Idaho will be voted on in five additional counties: Baker, Lake, Grant, Malheur, and Sherman.
“Move Oregon’s Border continues to collect signatures in seven other counties where no vote has occurred yet: Curry, Josephine, Jackson, Klamath, Harney, Morrow, and Umatilla counties,” the group’s website states.

Move Oregon’s Border founder and president of Citizens for Greater Idaho Mike McCarter said in a statement released on the group’s website on Wednesday:

This election proves that rural Oregon wants out of Oregon. If Oregon really believes in liberal values such as self-determination, the Legislature won’t hold our counties captive against our will. If we’re allowed to vote for which government officials we want, we should be allowed to vote for which government we want as well.

The statement added:

The election results this week were much stronger than the results in November. “We got on the ballot too early in those counties, before voters had heard of the idea, and before we could educate them on the benefits of joining Idaho, and before we had money for ads. The results this week prove that we were right to spend a little money on educating the voters in these counties. We only spent a tenth of the spending per voter that a typical state senator campaign spends, but it was enough. Now we need to raise funds for the next counties. Greater Idaho will be on the ballot in Douglas, Harney, and probably several other counties where citizens are still collecting signatures or asking county commissioners to put it on the ballot,” McCarter said. “Crook County commissioners invited us to a meeting next week to discuss putting it on the ballot.”
In Oregon, several state legislators have been quoted in the press in support of the border relocation. Reasons the Oregon Legislature should want to let rural Oregon join Idaho were given by McCarter: “In 2019, the average northwestern Oregonian wage-earner subsidized eastern/southern Oregon counties by $367 per year. Are they willing to keep paying that, just so that Oregon looks big on a map? Letting these counties go would mean the Oregon Legislature would avoid gridlock when Republican legislators walk out to try to deny a quorum. We list more reasons at greateridaho.org”

“The signature-gathering effort ‘to gain political refuge from blue states, was hampered last year due to the coronavirus pandemic, but it’s now picking up some momentum. Several prominent elected officials in Idaho, including Gov. Brad Little, have expressed support for the movement,” Oregon Live reported on Wednesday.

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[IAmNotAlpharius]

It’s shit like this which makes me side with Caesar’s Legion.

 

[Shield Breaker]

It is part of a series of maps made by a geological professor.

What does the new timing look like?

 

[knobslobbin]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KAXcPixX2v8
I'm sorry 2020 didn't see the powder keg explode like you wanted. Most people just never want to be in Kyle Rittenhouse's position, not even Kyle himself.

I wasn't advocating for violence must less glow posting, just commenting on what options are left after elections become corrupted. Conservatards will spin their wheels all the way to the camps, or maybe they'll get some election reform through. Who knows. Meanwhile PS5s will be out of stock until the end of the world.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I wasn't advocating for violence must less glow posting, just commenting on what options are left after elections become corrupted. Conservatards will spin their wheels all the way to the camps, or maybe they'll get some election reform through. Who knows. Meanwhile PS5s will be out of stock until the end of the world.

Unironically elections and courts. Until HB1 or an equivalent passes, elections are still semi-possible to win. The court system will last until the boomer lawyers and judges die off and today's critical theory educated lawyers start filling the upper ranks of firms and get appointed as judges, so maybe 15-20 years.

Until then, just watch yourself and prepare for the inevitable.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Unironically elections and courts. Until HB1 or an equivalent passes, elections are still semi-possible to win. The court system will last until the boomer lawyers and judges die off and today's critical theory educated lawyers start filling the upper ranks of firms and get appointed as judges, so maybe 15-20 years.

Until then, just watch yourself and prepare for the inevitable.

Seems legit. But a part of me still thinks that law is a results business where advancement only happens where you prove yourself. Judges meanwhile...well that's nothing but politics if SCOTUS is anything to go by. So as long as the CRT types just flame out at a rate where the true believers have no real impact or voice, that field has some hope of not being like the left's utopia.

 

[Meat Target]

Unironically elections and courts. Until HB1 or an equivalent passes, elections are still semi-possible to win. The court system will last until the boomer lawyers and judges die off and today's critical theory educated lawyers start filling the upper ranks of firms and get appointed as judges, so maybe 15-20 years.

Until then, just watch yourself and prepare for the inevitable.

HR1 is DOA as long as the filibuster remains, and Manchin and/or Sinema don't bend the knee. If that can hold on until next November, Republicans have a significant chance of retaking Congress.

 

[Wingnut]

If Washington State had a little sister, it would be Oregon.

If Washington sent Oregon to the store with $10 to buy a pack of cigarettes, Oregon would come back owing someone $5, eating a candy bar, and pregnant.

Oregon is the stupid little brother who thinks he needs to do everything like his older brothers California and Washington. Our government is basically a tagalong and we can expect any dogshit policy either of those states come up with to be attempted to be shoved down our throats within the next 5 years by Salem.

Pretty much everything east of the Rockies is super red politically, and I thank God every day I have a mountain range between me and the retards over there. Though with Bend becoming a miniature Portland and importing massive amounts of Californians they've started to infect this side too.

 

[TheRedChair]

Unironically elections and courts. Until HB1 or an equivalent passes, elections are still semi-possible to win. The court system will last until the boomer lawyers and judges die off and today's critical theory educated lawyers start filling the upper ranks of firms and get appointed as judges, so maybe 15-20 years.

Until then, just watch yourself and prepare for the inevitable.

Going to have to disagree with you on the 15 to 20 year time line. It has been leaning more and more to the right in the federal judicial system for the past 22 years, with Trump replacing almost 25% during his 4 year tenure.
The 9th circuit Judges are left leaning that is true however a lot of their verdicts gets looked hard at when it goes to the supreme court.

 

[Niggernerd]

but let's be real here the GOP and DNC are both against meaningful election reform.

This is why i hate neocon shills like Ben shapiro who suck the gops cock and mildly criticizes them. He will tell his fans who lack a father that gop good because they like da joos instead of saying "the GOP can be good if we decide to stop voting in these old goats and start bringing in new blood to change the party into a more energetic and strong one with a backbone"
As long as both parties keep these dinosaurs no one will see genuine election reform or reform in general.

 

[whatever I feel like]

HR1 is DOA as long as the filibuster remains, and Manchin and/or Sinema don't bend the knee. If that can hold on until next November, Republicans have a significant chance of retaking Congress.

HR 1 is also a blatantly unconstitutional overstepping of federal authority and would be struck down in the courts/ never implemented in red states (lol imagine if it passes and NY, IL, MR, etc going along with it while none of the red states do in redistricting next year.)

 

[Miss Misery]

Pretty much everything east of the Rockies is super red politically, and I thank God every day I have a mountain range between me and the retards over there. Though with Bend becoming a miniature Portland and importing massive amounts of Californians they've started to infect this side too.

Did you mean the Cascades?

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Seems legit. But a part of me still thinks that law is a results business where advancement only happens where you prove yourself. Judges meanwhile...well that's nothing but politics if SCOTUS is anything to go by. So as long as the CRT types just flame out at a rate where the true believers have no real impact or voice, that field has some hope of not being like the left's utopia.

Something like 3/4 of law students identify as "liberal" and CRT is the ideology at the top law schools. Top law schools are where graduates can easily get connections to move to major law firms or move to political office. This is why Harvard and Yale have produced the vast majority of Supreme Court Justices (including every single current justice, and check this article for how biased the Supreme Court is). The judicial process is very fucked. State elections are rarely contested and basically "the lawyer who the dominant party wants to appoint", governors appoint political allies, and at the federal level Congress is sure to appoint their own political allies. I raise Judge Andrew Borrok, a New York commercial judge who bought his way into office thanks to political contributions, as a typical example of a state judge in the years to come. Borrok will be one of the better judges in the years to come since he's just a Democrat stooge who rules how he thinks his NY Democrat Party masters (and their corporate bosses) want and is not an activist.

Going to have to disagree with you on the 15 to 20 year time line. It has been leaning more and more to the right in the federal judicial system for the past 22 years, with Trump replacing almost 25% during his 4 year tenure.
The 9th circuit Judges are left leaning that is true however a lot of their verdicts gets looked hard at when it goes to the supreme court.

Look what Trump's Supreme Court did. They refused to rule on the election which is utter insanity. Anyone can see there was legitimate issues the Supreme Court needed to rule on, just like they did 20 years ago with Bush v. Gore. If the Supreme Court told Trump to fuck off and explained why, then that would be a lot better than what we got. Trump--well, his "allies" like Turtle McConnell--ended up appointing a bunch of pro-corporate judges who will end up screwing over Americans.

 

[Wingnut]

Did you mean the Cascades?

Yes, I'm a dumbass and was thinking the wrong direction.

 

[Cabelaz]

The current state of Oregon always fucking saddens me.
Back before the 08' recession and clownworld I rented a nice little house in Prineville. Used to go to Mt. Hood on the weekends to entertain my faggy alpining hobby. Such a beautiful state.
Its a damn shame what happened to the pacific northwest. Damn shame.