DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[Iron Hamster]

The $200 per stream tip goal is also not going to work on non-whales because any halfway sane person is going to see Phil sitting at around or just over $100 and feel that that is more than enough for his stream. I have a hard time thinking that one of his viewers is going to see him begging and sitting at over $100 and think “I’m gonna help him get to $200.” He’s already had a handful of streams that stalled at just over a hundred since this shit started, and I’m sure that’s going to be the norm on nights when OIC doesn’t step up.

If you’re reading this, Phil, get real.

One wonders why people give him money to listen to him complain when they get paid to do that at the job that gives them money to throw at the pig in most cases.

The real question is whether wwe champions would really take priority over that other stuff if money really does get tight for him. I dont think he's really dumb enough to spend money he actually needs on mobile games but idk.

But we already know he will/does. Do you think he's begging and not playing wwe while making progress in the game?

I think Phil could possibly work as a shitty used car salesman. He’s “good” at lying, has no scruples whatsoever, doesn’t actually know anything about cars, but he does know how to play the semantics game with dumber people. Also he loves hassling his customers for every last coin so, I think he’d be set.

He reminds me of Gil from the Simpsons.

 

[Schrödinger's Kat]

In thinking more on Phil's angry reaction to the suggestion of Khet helping out financially, I'm beginning to suspect that he's afraid. Of what exactly, I'm not sure, but it doesn't make sense for it to be just straight-up honest anger, because of his grift being what it is.

It doesn't make sense. Asking if a spouse can help is a normal question for anyone who's in financial trouble. Phil gets triggered over weird, random stuff.

But there could be something to this. If I thought about why I might be angry at this suggestion, there are a couple things that come to mind. One would be that I wouldn't want my spouse to know I was in financial trouble, as it might destabilize the marriage. This doesn't seem to be the case, as Phil claims Kat was crying about him losing his partnership. This could be a lie, but I suspect Phil wouldn't make up this as a random lie as it is a little too specific.

Another possibility is that Kat already is giving Phil almost all of her money, and that Phil can't ask her for more. Maybe they fight over this because Kat feels that she's working her ass off and doesn't get to keep anything for herself. If they are fighting over this, Phil might get triggered by the suggestion. I think this is more likely the case.

Kat giving Phil most of her money would also explain why she was crying about the Twitch partnership loss. Perhaps she feels the end is near, after Phil went bankrupt and is still demanding she pay bills, now faced with a possible huge reduction in income. Maybe she changed jobs because Phil wanted her to make more money to help out with bills. I think its safe to assume Phil lies to Kat about his money as much as he does to his viewers.

This would also be the most disgusting reason, that Phil with a $140K income is making his retail-working wife contribute most of her income towards his gambling addiction after it caused him bankruptcy.

 

[Alxmir23]

I imagine phil does really have financial worries even with the amount of money he makes because he is just really bad at spending and managing his finances. He pays thousands a year in PayPal fees just to get his money instantly every day and pays probably over $5,000 a year on two separate internet lines for his one house. This is the same guy who was paying on a 2nd mortgage for an abandoned property for over 5 years. He just throws money away due to his stupidity so of course he always has money problems.

you know. i kinda forgot hes still in trouble over midfirst bank foreclosure. we still dont got news about how much he might have to pay back

 

[Detractor#38657]

gambling is a shit addiction no matter the income. its destructive in a way that other addictions can't compare and you cant buy yourself out of.
whether you make 20 grand a year, or 20 million, gambling will fuck you up. if you're making 20 mil a year and snort coke. it won't end you instantly and you'd have a hard time spending enough to go broke.
with gambling, you can piss away all your money in no time.

Pure speculation based on nothing, but I sometimes wonder if Phil frequents online casinos. Not much of a leap from gatcha to blackjack, and he used to talk a lot about working on something behind the scenes that'll get him on track. Considering he's still logging into champions pretty much daily I doubt that that's the case, but no one would be surprised.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

He's absolute shit at face-to-face interactions with people, though. To sell something to someone you need to either know the product (and Phil is retarded) or be charismatic enough to convince them to buy (and Phil is an asshole). The moment a customer challenged him in any way the sale would be over. Phil is not a negotiator.

I don't know... my uncle is a car salesman and he told me so many "horror" stories about selling cars (and I've witnessed some first hand) that it really seems like everyone's IQ drops to the high 70s/low 80s when they step foot on a car dealership and Phil is an expert in fleecing the mentally stunted. I've seen the sleaziest looking motherfuckers grinding young, nerdy-looking engineers, businessmen or other professionals like that and dropped my fucking jaw when I saw that same guy signing the lease papers after the salesman convinced him that people's opinions of him will change for the better if he buys a BMW with leather seats or when he sells him a bullshit lie that a famous sportsman of a sport that nerd doesn't watch drives the same car.

Then again... thinking about it, while those fuckers were obviously sleazy as fuck, they at least had a way with words, Phil snorting, belching, lip smacking and throat-clearing in front of a customer's face while also repeating himself 17 times and inserting a little begment into each potential sales pitch won't do him any favors at all...

 

[The Penultimate Warrior]

telemarketer phil it is.

People are even more abusive over the phone, your work is monitored and you have sales targets to reach. He wouldn't last a day.

 

[Michael Janke]

Then again... thinking about it, while those fuckers were obviously sleazy as fuck, they at least had a way with words,

that literally their saving grace. remember the old saying, the devil is very persuasive and seductive.

 

[But I Digress]

telemarketer phil it is.

Not a chance. To be a telemarketer you need to be able to convince people to make purchases. He'll just get fired after he has the lowest talk time out of anybody.

 

[Iron Hamster]

Just gotta repost the chart topper

 

[Zappin’ And Spazzin’]

That would also involved talking to people and not being able to run away when they ask tough questions or God forbid disagree with him.

There’s always televangelism. The cowboy hat would go well with that gig, I think.
“And remember my flock, purchase Vests from our House of God to protect oneself from the world’s Evils! Together, we can stand tall against the many vices-ah! And may all naysayers FEAR the Wrath of God!”

 

[Fill Bern El]

you know. i kinda forgot hes still in trouble over midfirst bank foreclosure. we still dont got news about how much he might have to pay back

As far as I know, if Midfirst cannot recoup the money spent through the sale of the condo, DSP pays back $0. Zero. Midfirst just eats the loss either way I believe. Pigroach luck, am I right?

 

[TheGoutburglar]

Another possibility is that Kat already is giving Phil almost all of her money, and that Phil can't ask her for more. Maybe they fight over this because Kat feels that she's working her ass off and doesn't get to keep anything for herself. If they are fighting over this, Phil might get triggered by the suggestion. I think this is more likely the case.

Thing is, Phil seems to want everyone to think that Khet isn't doing that. Obviously that could be a lie, but if Khet WAS living that way, you would think it would come up. You would expect Phil to talk about how it's so hard to watch his soulmaid slave away for little pay and have it amount to little in terms of covering the bills.

What makes it so hard to figure out what his deal is here is the disconnect between the narrative he tries to weave about his marriage and the little things like this that he doesn't seem to understand the implications of. He wants us to think that his relationship is legit, but getting mad over including Khet in such a way throws a wrench in that works.

He also, true to form, keeps trying to have his cake and eat it too. He feels very free to bring Khet up when it serves his grifting purposes, but she and other aspects of his personal life suddenly become nobody's business when it isn't begging time. Perhaps that's why? He's just pissy about an inquiry that doesn't serve him, like when someone wants to know what kinds of bills he actually has, or where all that vest streak money went.

Yeah, I'm going with that.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

This whole shit about Piggy not knowing any information attached to a paypal tip got me remembering a year old H3 podcast, like or not like the guy but there was a segment where they're watching a Q&A with Vie that is rather interesting (timestamped for reference):

Long story short:
Vie in 2020 "I google and dox the names and information that PayPal gives me on anyone that donates through them"
Phil in 2021 "Anyone that thinks that I receive names and other information on tippers from PayPal is a mentally ill conspiracy theorist"

 

[Michael Janke]

i wonder if phil would get more views on his channel, if he just started reposing detractor videos?
do any streamers have that angle, edit their own videos to a detractor channel they themselves own?
One more thing, how would phils videos look, if you removed all dead air? any breaks over 3 seconds are cut out. we could also use it to figure out how much content his stream actually provides.

 

[DontEatSilicaGel]

As far as I know, if Midfirst cannot recoup the money spent through the sale of the condo, DSP pays back $0. Zero. Midfirst just eats the loss either way I believe. Pigroach luck, am I right?

I believe it depends whether it goes by CT law or WA law? Been so long I lost track too.

All that's definite is it was sold in 2009 for $131,000. Was appraised 2nd June 2020 (for bankruptcy) at $59,000.

 

[JamFlowMan]

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You heard him everyone, if we rally and stand firm we'll all make it through Phil's tough times together! Believe!!

Friendly reminder "tough times" means the rest of Phil's life. Yeah you can pony up $100 today to "own the trolls" but can you do thatt for the next 20 years? Because that's what Phil expects.

 

[FalsePositive]

Phil really needs help you guys, how can you sit there and mock him in these troubling times? I'm gonna send him some of my crypto earnings to help him out...... jk I just bought a car, nigger.

 

[Fill Bern El]

Another possibility is that Kat already is giving Phil almost all of her money, and that Phil can't ask her for more. Maybe they fight over this because Kat feels that she's working her ass off and doesn't get to keep anything for herself. If they are fighting over this, Phil might get triggered by the suggestion. I think this is more likely the case.

Kat giving Phil most of her money would also explain why she was crying about the Twitch partnership loss. Perhaps she feels the end is near, after Phil went bankrupt and is still demanding she pay bills, now faced with a possible huge reduction in income. Maybe she changed jobs because Phil wanted her to make more money to help out with bills. I think its safe to assume Phil lies to Kat about his money as much as he does to his viewers.

Nah, no way Kat is giving more than 30-40% of her income to any sort of bills. She seems like a gold digger and I doubt a gold digger would be comfortable with contributing most of their own money to the person they're gold digging to, it just doesn't quite make sense.

It makes sense if Kat really was crying. Mr. Full Time Streamer got kicked out of his twitch partnership which is basically the equivalent to losing your job lmao. It makes sense for a gold digger to be upset that their sugar daddy basically just came down stairs one day and said "ayo, i might be broke now"

 

[tomstone]

I think Phil could possibly work as a shitty used car salesman. He’s “good” at lying, has no scruples whatsoever, doesn’t actually know anything about cars, but he does know how to play the semantics game with dumber people. Also he loves hassling his customers for every last coin so, I think he’d be set.

he also has crippling social anxiety and probably cant interact with people face to face.

 

[LostMy1stAccount]

This whole shit about Piggy not knowing any information attached to a paypal tip got me remembering a year old H3 podcast, like or not like the guy but there was a segment where they're watching a Q&A with Vie that is rather interesting (timestamped for reference):

On one of yesterdays prestreams it actually dawned to me what Dave means when he says he doesn't get the names of his tippers.
He said he only gets the name YOU provide PayPal with.
And if you provide PayPal with your real name, then you basically dox yourself.

(timestamp 1:03:45)

Dave is basically saying: If you provide PayPal with a false name or alias, then he can only see your alias and not your real name.
The only problem with that: It is against PayPal TOS, so any Paypig who uses a fake name risks getting banned for it on PP.