💰 Grifter StoneToss (allegedly, formerly Red Panels)

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Why did he retweeted this????
Is he really Shmorky who had a piss and shit fetish

There 100% no other explanation. That just be it.

 

[Bob Barker]

I tend to spew a lot of angry bullshit at this general topic, just because I like doing it and I really just fundamentally, viscerally dislike anti-Semitism. I think a lot of their success has to do with exactly that, just a cultural preference for intellectualism. I view anti-Semitism as, on a certain level, essentially just a form of anti-intellectualism itself. And since I value intellectualism, I dislike anything I view as hostile to it. I am also not a huge fan of IQ as an actual measurement of intelligence. I think it reflects a certain type of objective measurement of intelligence, but I'm mostly shitposting if I suggest I really think it's actually measuring something like "intelligence" itself. So it is objectively true to say "blacks score badly on IQ while Jews and Asians score well." That's just something that is true. Saying "blacks are stupid and Jews are smart," though, is just straight up racist and the actual connection between the tests and some objective idea of intelligence is flawed, at best.

Nothing made me more anti-Semitic than people shilling for jews.

 

[AnOminous]

Nothing made me more anti-Semitic than people shilling for jews.

That just makes me want to shill even harder.

 

[Bob Barker]

That just makes me want to shill even harder.

Please do, I need more allies.

 

[AnOminous]

As long as we're talking about StoneToss and whether or not he is a Nazi, and actually I really could not care less whether he is, here's a really stupid fucking thing posted on plebbit: https://www.reddit.com/r/antifaston..._definitive_guide_to_why_stonetoss_is_a_nazi/

It's supposedly a guide as to how he completely, totally actually is a Nazi, but offers nothing but emotional bullshit and whining about his cartoons.

It basically starts out by claiming he's also RedPanels, which I think is probably true, but apparently his shift to StoneToss was he was too openly a Nazi as RedPanels, so had to somehow change identities and become "ironic" about it. Now StoneToss definitely has a strong sense of irony but even if we completely accept the RedPanels thing, is there any reason to think he became more "ironic" after the identity switch?

I don't see it. StoneToss still quite often overtly uses /pol/ memes and if throwing in the occasional 13/52 posting isn't obvious, what is? How is StoneToss now somehow more subtle? He isn't. He is not concealing some hidden bias. He is completely up front about it.

And then this dumb "guide" moves on both to cite Godwin's Law and then completely disregard it. This should be absolutely embarrassing to anyone who does it, yet it never is. They never seem to get that the fact that you are insisting some dude who makes cartoons is somehow equivalent to someone who gasses millions of people (with Jews being only one such population), makes you a FUCKING IDIOT.

But of course this clown moves on without a trace of embarrassment to further dumb arguments.

Then there's this pure retardation:

"While there is no evidence that Stonetoss was an actual participant at the "Unite the Right" rally, we also don't have any evidence that Stonetoss has ever been outside."

So there's literally no evidence of this but let's just assume it anyway.

And then there's just mindless reeeing about various comics that the guy doesn't like. Therefore Hitler. Whatever.

 

[The Last Stand]

We should just call this the Anti Semetic thread.

 

[Shaka Brah]

We should just call this the Anti Semetic thread.

"Debate AnOminous about anti-semantics"

 

[The Pink Panther]

As long as we're talking about StoneToss and whether or not he is a Nazi, and actually I really could not care less whether he is, here's a really stupid fucking thing posted on plebbit: https://www.reddit.com/r/antifaston..._definitive_guide_to_why_stonetoss_is_a_nazi/

It's supposedly a guide as to how he completely, totally actually is a Nazi, but offers nothing but emotional bullshit and whining about his cartoons.

It basically starts out by claiming he's also RedPanels, which I think is probably true, but apparently his shift to StoneToss was he was too openly a Nazi as RedPanels, so had to somehow change identities and become "ironic" about it. Now StoneToss definitely has a strong sense of irony but even if we completely accept the RedPanels thing, is there any reason to think he became more "ironic" after the identity switch?

I don't see it. StoneToss still quite often overtly uses /pol/ memes and if throwing in the occasional 13/52 posting isn't obvious, what is? How is StoneToss now somehow more subtle? He isn't. He is not concealing some hidden bias. He is completely up front about it.

And then this dumb "guide" moves on both to cite Godwin's Law and then completely disregard it. This should be absolutely embarrassing to anyone who does it, yet it never is. They never seem to get that the fact that you are insisting some dude who makes cartoons is somehow equivalent to someone who gasses millions of people (with Jews being only one such population), makes you a FUCKING IDIOT.

But of course this clown moves on without a trace of embarrassment to further dumb arguments.

Then there's this pure retardation:

"While there is no evidence that Stonetoss was an actual participant at the "Unite the Right" rally, we also don't have any evidence that Stonetoss has ever been outside."

So there's literally no evidence of this but let's just assume it anyway.

And then there's just mindless reeeing about various comics that the guy doesn't like. Therefore Hitler. Whatever.

All is right, but Stonetoss is not Redpanels. Two different guys.

 

[CrippleThreat]

We should just call this the Anti Semetic thread.

Jews aren't sending their best.

 

[AnOminous]

All is right, but Stonetoss is not Redpanels. Two different guys.

The main reason I think it is it seemed like one phased out of existence at the same time as the other appeared, they both have a minimalist approach to cartoons, they both actually have a grasp of the four-panel comic convention, and are relatively high functioning as people in this genre go. There's no more evidence of them being the same person than of them both being Shmorky, to be fair.

 

[The Pink Panther]

We should just call this the Anti Semetic thread.

Shut up, goy.

 

[KateHikes14]

The main reason I think it is it seemed like one phased out of existence at the same time as the other appeared, they both have a minimalist approach to cartoons, they both actually have a grasp of the four-panel comic convention, and are relatively high functioning as people in this genre go. There's no more evidence of them being the same person than of them both being Shmorky, to be fair.

It's hearsay but multiple people in this thread have said they have different sounding voices, iirc the stonetoss interview was on the killstream, not sure where the redpanels interview was, and I think interest in finding the interview petered out before it was found.

 

[The Pink Panther]

It's hearsay but multiple people in this thread have said they have different sounding voices, iirc the stonetoss interview was on the killstream, not sure where the redpanels interview was, and I think interest in finding the interview petered out before it was found.

redpanels debated Sargon

 

[LordofCringe7206]

The main reason I think it is it seemed like one phased out of existence at the same time as the other appeared, they both have a minimalist approach to cartoons, they both actually have a grasp of the four-panel comic convention, and are relatively high functioning as people in this genre go. There's no more evidence of them being the same person than of them both being Shmorky, to be fair.

It's hearsay but multiple people in this thread have said they have different sounding voices, iirc the stonetoss interview was on the killstream, not sure where the redpanels interview was, and I think interest in finding the interview petered out before it was found.

I'm torn on whether or not they're the same person. The thing that stands out to me more than their similar styles and opinions is the simple fact that I don't believe that RedPanels would ever be completely gone from the internet. I feel like he would have maintained some sort of a presence. Stonetoss is the only thing similar enough that can be recognized as that.

That being said, there is a lot more differences between the two than most people realize. Stonetoss does show a lot more self-awareness and cleverness in his personality then RedPanels did. Which shows in they're comics, social media posts and how they approach things. RedPanels comics lacked a lot of nuanced, were more on the nose and at times would make him look much more like a sperg.

Stonetoss honestly does come across as a lot more subtle and more intelligent in how he approaches his comics. He'll give you some puzzle pieces, but unlike RedPanels he wouldn't put the puzzle together for you. Compare how RedPanels would always leave an essay on his webpage with each comic he posted, making sure you it was explained to you what the comic meant.

To add to this, it always came across like RedPanels was taking himself more seriously and trying to make an argument with his comics. Stonetoss on the other hand has always felt like he's more laid back and trying to have a laugh with his work. Both are advocating similar ideas with their works, but Stonetoss approaches it in a way that is trying to make people have a laugh. Compare both their comics where they mocked skeptic figures. Here is RedPanels mocking TheAmazingAtheist:

Now compare that to how differently Stonetoss mocked Sargon:

I feel like there are way more differences in their approaches and mindsets than most people realize, hence why I don't necessarily think they are the same person. A better theory for me is that Stonetoss was merely a fan of RedPanels and was inspired to do his own comics with his own different approach to subject matter.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

I'm torn on whether or not they're the same person. The thing that stands out to me more than their similar styles and opinions is the simple fact that I don't believe that RedPanels would ever be completely gone from the internet. I feel like he would have maintained some sort of a presence. Stonetoss is the only thing similar enough that can be recognized as that.

That being said, there is a lot more differences between the two than most people realize. Stonetoss does show a lot more self-awareness and cleverness in his personality then RedPanels did. Which shows in they're comics, social media posts and how they approach things. RedPanels comics lacked a lot of nuanced, were more on the nose and at times would make him look much more like a sperg.

Stonetoss honestly does come across as a lot more subtle and more intelligent in how he approaches his comics. He'll give you some puzzle pieces, but unlike RedPanels he wouldn't put the puzzle together for you. Compare how RedPanels would always leave an essay on his webpage with each comic he posted, making sure you it was explained to you what the comic meant.
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To add to this, it always came across like RedPanels was taking himself more seriously and trying to make an argument with his comics. Stonetoss on the other hand has always felt like he's more laid back and trying to have a laugh with his work. Both are advocating similar ideas with their works, but Stonetoss approaches it in a way that is trying to make people have a laugh. Compare both their comics where they mocked skeptic figures. Here is RedPanels mocking TheAmazingAtheist:
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Now compare that to how differently Stonetoss mocked Sargon:
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I feel like there are way more differences in their approaches and mindsets than most people realize, hence why I don't necessarily think they are the same person. A better theory for me is that Stonetoss was merely a fan of RedPanels and was inspired to do his own comics with his own different approach to subject matter.

He could just have more of a sense of humor and nuance from how shit has played out over the last 5-6 years. I think you need that if you’re a part of the dissident right or else you just doom yourself to obscurity and/or being completely deplatformed.

I personally don’t care who Stonetoss is or was. The ability for people to lose their shit at /pol/lite memes are the funniest thing about his comics. Each one is guaranteed to be a salt mine.

 

[Shaka Brah]

I feel like there are way more differences in their approaches and mindsets than most people realize, hence why I don't necessarily think they are the same person. A better theory for me is that Stonetoss was merely a fan of RedPanels and was inspired to do his own comics with his own different approach to subject matter.

Stonetoss has been very open about starting political comic art because he saw RedPanels on 4pol. He doesn't say anything about it in his About section, but he's mentioned it quite a few times on twitter and I think he talked about RedPanels a bit on the Killstream. He does mention some of his early 4chan-era art on his website though, and his style from the time when RedPanels was active is closer to the wojak/soyjak style.

 

[AltisticRight]

ur a woke libtard

Wow you're all over the place, the only people who would call me a liberal are either far right anarchists that consider anything to the left of Ayn Rand communism or an actual fascist. It's not that hard, no where did I remotely "apologise" for their behaviour. You're delusional and you see libtards everywhere, maybe get out of your purely black-and-white mindset. If I brought up "socioeconomics", then yeah that would be apologising, because poor whites and Asians do less crime than rich blacks.

(Not a reference but it does give a general sense to one's politics)

1. Acknowledged
2. Duh?
3. What does that have to do with black crime? Asians in general don't have high crime rates.

They worship thugs because they have no father to give them discipline. Plenty people worship thugs, rap is big among whites and Asians, you don't see them going around raping and killing. 70% of the black youth have no father. You'd probably take this as your genetics argument being exemplified, I'll give you that too.

Yeah, some idiot smoking a joint will totally lead to them raping and killing for money. So what happens to this nog jailed several months for a bag of weed after he gets out? Rehabilitated and becomes an upstanding citizen, or he picks up thuggery from other inmates and starts to rob people? Would someone hire a person with a criminal record? Some retard smoking a joint or sniffing a line of coke in their room doesn't make my community a shitty place to live in. Of course, I don't want to see them doing it in the streets.

If what you're trying to say is blacks are genetically more criminal, followed by I guess in your opinion would be Hispanics, then whites and finally Asians, sure. Males are genetically more criminal. Testosterone, blacks have way more than whites and Asians. A God fearing Black follower of Jesus Christ fathering black kids will still do far less crimes than a thug worshiping [insert nig rapper here]. You can sperg about genetics all you want, that doesn't fix the problem and makes you look like an insane person to average normies who aren't aware of it and detest this race shit. A father that's the role model of his kids is far more important than genetics.

I tend to spew a lot of angry bullshit at this general topic, just because I like doing it and I really just fundamentally, viscerally dislike anti-Semitism. I think a lot of their success has to do with exactly that, just a cultural preference for intellectualism. I view anti-Semitism as, on a certain level, essentially just a form of anti-intellectualism itself. And since I value intellectualism, I dislike anything I view as hostile to it. I am also not a huge fan of IQ as an actual measurement of intelligence. I think it reflects a certain type of objective measurement of intelligence, but I'm mostly shitposting if I suggest I really think it's actually measuring something like "intelligence" itself. So it is objectively true to say "blacks score badly on IQ while Jews and Asians score well." That's just something that is true. Saying "blacks are stupid and Jews are smart," though, is just straight up racist and the actual connection between the tests and some objective idea of intelligence is flawed, at best.

Most of the anti-semitism is directed towards Jews in media, many of which love to roleplay as a fellow white person, and Jews in the porn industry -- something orthodox religious Jews detest as well. This combined with their general protected class status makes people want to shittalk them even more. Rarely would you see anyone talking about "Jew science" and dismissing mathematical models because a big nose is behind it.

IQ stuff is fun to talk about but not that useful. Some sociopath with 140 IQ can be a good CEO and run a company, while some idiot who can't even add 2 digits in his head can lay bricks and make houses. Both are important, the CEO won't be building my house, and the brickie isn't going to be doing my balance sheet (I'd rather pay Joooz to do that... wait a dorra saved is a dorra earned, fuck that, I'll math it myself).

 

[BoxerShorts47]

And then this dumb "guide" moves on both to cite Godwin's Law and then completely disregard it. This should be absolutely embarrassing to anyone who does it, yet it never is. They never seem to get that the fact that you are insisting some dude who makes cartoons is somehow equivalent to someone who gasses millions of people (with Jews being only one such population), makes you a FUCKING IDIOT.

strong center-left
Slippery-slope is not a logical fallacy, it's the logical conclusion.
It's clear his comics paint neo-nazi ideas (e.g. holocaust denial) in a favorable light.
What kind of person would be sympathetic to nazis? A nazi.
I think the far-left in many ways is much more sane than you center-left liberals.
They understand slippery-slope and they focus on consequences.
This is why they win.

Wow you're all over the place, the only people who would call me a liberal are either far right anarchists that consider anything to the left of Ayn Rand communism or an actual fascist. It's not that hard, no where did I remotely "apologise" for their behaviour. You're delusional and you see libtards everywhere, maybe get out of your purely black-and-white mindset. If I brought up "socioeconomics", then yeah that would be apologising, because poor whites and Asians do less crime than rich blacks.
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(Not a reference but it does give a general sense to one's politics)

1. Acknowledged
2. Duh?
3. What does that have to do with black crime? Asians in general don't have high crime rates.

They worship thugs because they have no father to give them discipline. Plenty people worship thugs, rap is big among whites and Asians, you don't see them going around raping and killing. 70% of the black youth have no father. You'd probably take this as your genetics argument being exemplified, I'll give you that too.

Yeah, some idiot smoking a joint will totally lead to them raping and killing for money. So what happens to this nog jailed several months for a bag of weed after he gets out? Rehabilitated and becomes an upstanding citizen, or he picks up thuggery from other inmates and starts to rob people? Would someone hire a person with a criminal record? Some retard smoking a joint or sniffing a line of coke in their room doesn't make my community a shitty place to live in. Of course, I don't want to see them doing it in the streets.

If what you're trying to say is blacks are genetically more criminal, followed by I guess in your opinion would be Hispanics, then whites and finally Asians, sure. Males are genetically more criminal. Testosterone, blacks have way more than whites and Asians. A God fearing Black follower of Jesus Christ fathering black kids will still do far less crimes than a thug worshiping [insert nig rapper here]. You can sperg about genetics all you want, that doesn't fix the problem and

"Rehabilitative justice" far-left freak confirmed. The entire point of prison is to lock-up criminals, stop them from hurting society and if being locked up isn't a determent than they're clearly broken.

Blacks don't have fathers because that's the culture they created. Blacks have always had a higher out of marriage birthrate, during Jim crow and during today. These people value "smashing it" and don't value raising their kids on avg. Vice-versa. Asians respect tiger parents. Why would you expect all races to have the same culture, same marriage-rate or out-of-wedlock-rate? Because of your equality religion? Genetic differences manifest in behavior. Very simple concept. Same reason a Pitbull is more likely to bite off your face than a Lab.

Yes if Asians keep allowing blackness into their societies, they'll start to act more like blacks. We've seen that happen to whites over the last 60-100 years as society has gotten more and more Africanized.

makes you look like an insane person to average normies who aren't aware of it and detest this race shit. A father that's the role model of his kids is far more important than genetics.

I go full fedora and attack them as science deniers if they try denying biological differences between races. Works great.

 

[Nigger Foreskin Chewer]

Breadpanes is doing well on Twitter. Over 17,000 likes on this comic.
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Speaking of his Patreon, he's managed to rally a whole 12 people into finanically supporting him. Which, considering his comics are the political equivalent of a weekly turd in comic form sliding out of his ass for only like-minded individuals to sniff, is pretty impressive.

While I don't usually like to insult people like that, he deserves it. His comics consist of nothing but unfunny regurgitation of political talking points (infact, the majority of his comics are just him re-drawing existing memes). Many of his comics contain panel-pasting, and I'm sure someone could find tracing if they wanted to spend the time to.

I'm not sure what it is, but Stonetoss has some sort of magic touch that none of his clones, right wing or left wing, can replicate. Mr. Pumpkin Face, Hedgewik, and Breadpanes all have a preachy political-talking-point-y way of making their comics that makes them offputting unless you line up with their beliefs. And even then, they're not something you're gonna laugh at, just nod your head in agreement at most.

With that being said, I do hope Breadpanes improves and makes himself into something better. I follow all of the Stonetoss clones (and Stonetoss, obviously) on Twitter, and I've noticed most of them end up dropping off and giving up after some time. (Spergzy, Stone-Moss, and a few right-wingers as well.) So he's proven he has the grit to stick it out and not throw the towel in, which has benefitted him here with 17 thousand or so likes, and some consistent clout it seems. From a bipartisan standpoint, it would be cool to see him hold on and become an actual left wing competitor to Stonetoss. I guess, but I doubt that will happen.

 

[Shaka Brah]

I'm not sure what it is, but Stonetoss has some sort of magic touch that none of his clones, right wing or left wing, can replicate. Mr. Pumpkin Face, Hedgewik, and Breadpanes all have a preachy political-talking-point-y way of making their comics that makes them offputting unless you line up with their beliefs. And even then, they're not something you're gonna laugh at, just nod your head in agreement at most.

I think his secret is he doesn't take himself too seriously.