Netflix's The Witcher series

[GaddafyTheLooneyDuck]

Its a stupid thing to say, but its not entirely inaccurate. The Witcher is a highly derivative work, borrowing heavily from fantasy stories that the author grew up reading (Tolkien, Elric, Conan, early D&D, etc.). Suffice it to say, if Sapkowski grew up 30 years later, he would've been exposed to a much different canon of fantasy novels, with very different tropes. The female protagonist whose only defining characteristic is being female is very much a trope of modern fantasy and is, sadly, going to remain an element in the stories of people who are now being influenced by modern fantasy.

Sapkowski was probably just virtue signalling, but, again, he's probably also right: if he wrote the Witcher today, the Witcher would probably be a black lesbian fighting racism in fantasy poland because that's what most modern fantasy is about.

I would argue that it's still not that difficult to get hands on the classics and other good fantasy media which is not plagued by that mainstream "progressive" virus, unless he would have grown up with just that or most of it. Though he could still do that, but for the sake of trying to squeeze money out of the "progressive" crowd.

 

[Sayon]

He's just pulling a J.K. Rowling and going "teehee i never said herminone was white."

 

[Roast Chicken]

I haven't played the games or read the books but I've really enjoyed the first series of this. Looking forward to watching more.

I'm very endeared to Cavill's eternally fed-up, antisocial yet empathetic Geralt. Plus he's stunning. I don't normally pay attention to hunks but he's a noticeably handsome man.

Yennefer is a very intriguing character; she seems to want to have her cake and eat it despite Geralt telling her that people like them have no business raising children. She doesn't say why she wants a baby

Spoiler: Spoilers

but it seems to be suggested that failing to save the infant she was tasked with escorting is playing on her conscience and perhaps by having a child she can 'do over' and absolve her guilt

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Ciri is.. Meh. She needs more development; haven't really been invested in the magical princess story arch.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

Its a stupid thing to say, but its not entirely inaccurate. The Witcher is a highly derivative work, borrowing heavily from fantasy stories that the author grew up reading (Tolkien, Elric, Conan, early D&D, etc.). Suffice it to say, if Sapkowski grew up 30 years later, he would've been exposed to a much different canon of fantasy novels, with very different tropes. The female protagonist whose only defining characteristic is being female is very much a trope of modern fantasy and is, sadly, going to remain an element in the stories of people who are now being influenced by modern fantasy.

Sapkowski was probably just virtue signalling, but, again, he's probably also right: if he wrote the Witcher today, the Witcher would probably be a black lesbian fighting racism in fantasy poland because that's what most modern fantasy is about.

Not doubting, but what books that have gained traction that star female protagonists? Especially ones with black lesbian female protagonists?

I'm doubting that because most of those books are super boring and don't gain traction, and no piggybacking off old IPs doesn't count.

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

Not doubting, but what books that have gained traction that star female protagonists? Especially ones with black lesbian female protagonists?

I'm doubting that because most of those books are super boring and don't gain traction, and no piggybacking off old IPs doesn't count.

Depends what you mean? Hunger Games and Twlight were both extremely popular with female protagonists(for a period)...

Now, if you're talking enduring? Yeah, I don't have a clue...

 

[InsolentGaylord]

Depends what you mean? Hunger Games and Twlight were both extremely popular with female protagonists(for a period)...

Now, if you're talking enduring? Yeah, I don't have a clue...

I dunno Hunger Games and Twilight were before this wokeness became awful.

Can anyone name any super woke characters that became quite popular? And no Captain Marvel making a billion doesn't count, they duped people into watching that.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Digged around and found something interesting. A while ago Sapkowski gave an interview to Eurogamer's Polish outlet regarding complaints coming from the fans towards Netflix adaptation, in which he defended black elves by continuing to claim that The Witcher being based on Slavic mythology is a myth and adding that his books actually do not mention anyone's skin colors, so it's possible for them to be black. Now, here is what's problematic with his statement. He wrote a book about The Witcher's mythological creatures and characters named "Bestiary", which says that elves have a really light-skin and even can't get a tan. And on top of that he also stated that have he written The Witcher today, protagonist would have been a female.

Great job on shitting yourself, Sapkowski.

Witcher's more Celt than Slav in terms of what the mythology likes to use, truthfully. And 2/3rds of the main characters were female. But yeah otherwise he's just pulling a Rowling. Plus this cuts both ways. Zerrikanians are never described as dark. Everyone just assumed. Maybe they're albinos?

Ciri is.. Meh. She needs more development; haven't really been invested in the magical princess story arch.

Ciri doesn't get interesting until later in the books. Assuming they have the courage to handle her story arc right.

 

[Vince McMahon]

Digged around and found something interesting. A while ago Sapkowski gave an interview to Eurogamer's Polish outlet regarding complaints coming from the fans towards Netflix adaptation, in which he defended black elves by continuing to claim that The Witcher being based on Slavic mythology is a myth and adding that his books actually do not mention anyone's skin colors, so it's possible for them to be black. Now, here is what's problematic with his statement. He wrote a book about The Witcher's mythological creatures and characters named "Bestiary", which says that elves have a really light-skin and even can't get a tan. And on top of that he also stated that have he written The Witcher today, protagonist would have been a female.

Great job on shitting yourself, Sapkowski.

Sapkowski, from his public profile, is a grumpy old codger, who really, really REALLY hated CD Red, when he sold the rights for 2000 bucks or so and it turned out to rake millions. He's most likely virtue signalling.

 

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Sapkowski, from his public profile, is a grumpy old codger, who really, really REALLY hated CD Red, when he sold the rights for 2000 bucks or so and it turned out to rake millions. He's most likely virtue signalling.

He's also a left-winger and very rich, so he's probably a part of the global anti-gamer consipracy.

 

[ElAbominacion]

I hope that this project dies due to COVID-19. It would make me happy to see Hissrich ditched like a five dollar prostitute after a blowjob.

Especially since I heard they might be removing Henry Cavill from the protagonist's roles for god knows why.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I hope that this project dies due to COVID-19. It would make me happy to see Hissrich ditched like a five dollar prostitute after a blowjob.

Especially since I heard they might be removing Henry Cavill from the protagonist's roles for god knows why.

Because he is white and straight and rich.

 

[Meat Target]

"Her alabaster skin" -- this about Fringilla

Its a stupid thing to say, but its not entirely inaccurate. The Witcher is a highly derivative work, borrowing heavily from fantasy stories that the author grew up reading (Tolkien, Elric, Conan, early D&D, etc.). Suffice it to say, if Sapkowski grew up 30 years later, he would've been exposed to a much different canon of fantasy novels, with very different tropes. The female protagonist whose only defining characteristic is being female is very much a trope of modern fantasy and is, sadly, going to remain an element in the stories of people who are now being influenced by modern fantasy.

Sapkowski was probably just virtue signalling, but, again, he's probably also right: if he wrote the Witcher today, the Witcher would probably be a black lesbian fighting racism in fantasy poland because that's what most modern fantasy is about.

Sapkowski blatantly plagiarized the Witcher from Elric of Melnibone.
1. Snarky, world-weary, albino sellsword outcast who needs potions for his unnaturally long life
2. Travels the world slaying monsters while multiple factions try to manipulate him into doing their bidding
3. The only one of his kind with emotions or empathy
4. Fornicates at every opportunity
5. Longs for his raven-haired sorceress true love
6. His fantasy world is an allegory of the decadence of the author's home country (Moorcock/UK in the 60's, Sapkowski/Poland in the 80's).
7. Both live in a universe/multiverse where a cosmological event called the Conjunction of the (Million, removed by Sapkowski) Spheres.
8. Even if these are superficial similarities, Sapkowski would not even acknowledge them when served papers by Moorcock's lawyer

"But the Iron Crutain!"
Borders in the Eastern Bloc were pretty porous toward the end of the Cold War, and in 1985 Sapkowski was working for a company that was translating Elric into Polish. The Witcher came around in 1987. What a cowinky-kurwa-dink.

"He's inspired, not plagiarized!"
The Conjunction of the Spheres being in both is the slam-dunk refutation of this.

"Nothing new under the sun!"
He could at least have changed Geralt's appearance or temperament.

"Muh Slavic mythology!"

What makes the fairy tales of Snow Mexicans special again?

Edit: I don't give a shit either way on this. I'm just sick of simpering Witcher fanboys gushing about "MuH SLaVShEEiT" and "mUh GrAyTeSt ArpayGay Evuhhh!" STFU, Redditard bugmen, it's not special.

 

[Leaf-eon]

Sapkowski blatantly plagiarized the Witcher from Elric of Melnibone.
1. Snarky, world-weary, albino sellsword outcast who needs potions for his unnaturally long life
2. Travels the world slaying monsters while multiple factions try to manipulate him into doing their bidding
3. The only one of his kind with emotions or empathy
4. Fornicates at every opportunity
5. Longs for his raven-haired sorceress true love
6. His fantasy world is an allegory of the decadence of the author's home country (Moorcock/UK in the 60's, Sapkowski/Poland in the 80's).
7. Both live in a universe/multiverse where a cosmological event called the Conjunction of the (Million, removed by Sapkowski) Spheres.
8. Even if these are superficial similarities, Sapkowski would not even acknowledge them when served papers by Moorcock's lawyer

"But the Iron Crutain!"
Borders in the Eastern Bloc were pretty porous toward the end of the Cold War, and in 1985 Sapkowski was working for a company that was translating Elric into Polish. The Witcher came around in 1987. What a cowinky-kurwa-dink.

"He's inspired, not plagiarized!"
The Conjunction of the Spheres being in both is the slam-dunk refutation of this.

"Nothing new under the sun!"
He could at least have changed Geralt's appearance or temperament.

"Muh Slavic mythology!"

What makes the fairy tales of Snow Mexicans special again?

Edit: I don't give a shit either way on this. I'm just sick of simpering Witcher fanboys gushing about "MuH SLaVShEEiT" and "mUh GrAyTeSt ArpayGay Evuhhh!" STFU, Redditard bugmen, it's not special.

Hi Razofist

 

[Meat Target]

Hi Razofist

Yeah, yeah... kill the messenger.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

Especially since I heard they might be removing Henry Cavill from the protagonist's roles for god knows why.

Where did you hear that? I think they're starting filming again pretty soon from what I read.

 

[Sir Wesley Tailpipe]

Where did you hear that? I think they're starting filming again pretty soon from what I read.

They tried recasting the role with an actual Polack to be politically correct, but they couldn’t find one who could read and didn’t have time to make a pictographs script, so Cavill stays. For now.

 

[HeyYou]

They tried recasting the role with an actual Polack to be politically correct, but they couldn’t find one who could read and didn’t have time to make a pictographs script, so Cavill stays. For now.

They already tossed out muh culturally accurate casting a long time ago, to get rid of the most likable face of the series would be mindbogglingly stupid.

Anyways, I finally got around to watching this shit again. It was stunningly mediocre, so this might be the first time I actually agree with the critics. I liked the three main characters, but they skipped a whole bunch (including the story where Yen cucks Geralt lmao) and overall the changes they made from the source material actively hurt it at times (they absolutely fucking ruined Cahir). Hopefully they get their shit together for the second season and bump it up to good rather than meh. They already said they were redesigning the Nilfgaard armor, so that's a good start.

 

[ElAbominacion]

They already tossed out muh culturally accurate casting a long time ago, to get rid of the most likable face of the series would be mindbogglingly stupid.

Anyways, I finally got around to watching this shit. It was stunningly mediocre, so this might be the first time I actually agree with the critics. I liked the three main characters, but they skipped a whole bunch (including the story where Yen cucks Geralt lmao) and overall the changes they made from the source material actively hurt it at times (they absolutely fucking ruined Cahir). Hopefully they get their shit together for the second season and bump it up to good rather than meh. They already said they were redesigning the Nilfgaard armor, so that's a good start.

I mean, IT IS mediocre. It was made by a suburban upper class soccer mom with a NYC mindset who sought to replace the uniqueness and ethnic fidelity of the series with the suburban melting pot thing.

I was surprised they just didn't outright cast a black man for the role of Geralt, but I suppose that black dudes with white hair just look ridiculous.

 

[CWCissey]

I mean, IT IS mediocre. It was made by a suburban upper class soccer mom with a NYC mindset who sought to replace the uniqueness and ethnic fidelity of the series with the suburban melting pot thing.

I was surprised they just didn't outright cast a black man for the role of Geralt, but I suppose that black dudes with white hair just look ridiculous.

And the only way they don't is if it's short enough to make them look like a pint of Guinness.

 

[HeyYou]

The books didn't like Nilfgaard either. In fact the books depict every nation as being fairly shit. But Nilfgaard more so. So you can't really blame Netflix.

The books still humanized them. Cahir and Fringilla were decent enough, because at the end of the day it was a nation doing shitty things that nonetheless had good people. That's pretty much the message of the series, to be honest. Meanwhile Cahir and Fringilla are fucking creepy serial killer psychopaths in the show.