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lol her name is k. hunt
She is the daughter of Bruce and Krista Hunt and sibling to younger sister Carly Hunt
She comes from a long line of K.Hunts.

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Okay, so which is it? At first they were like “no, don’t go to a rally because you’ll get Corona”. Now, they are saying “Trump’s crowd wasn’t that big”. I thought not having a big crowd would be a good thing because of the Coronavirus? On top of that, the Kennedy comparison doesn’t make sense because it was a time when there were far less ways of watching a rally (outside of going in person, your only options were TV and radio, but I’m not sure if they aired it on TV since channels were limited).
So like most every Trump rally before yesterday's? Most of his previous rallies make JFK's look piddly.


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President Donald Trump said Saturday he's asked his administration to slow down coronavirus testing because robust testing turns up too many cases of COVID-19.

Trump told supporters at his campaign rally that the U.S. has tested 25 million people, far more than any other country. The “bad part,” Trump said, is that widespread testing leads to logging more cases of the virus.

“When you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people, you’re going to find more cases,” Trump said. “So I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please.’ They test and they test.”

The campaign of likely Democratic presidential rival, Joe Biden, said Trump was putting politics ahead of the safety and health of Americans.

Trump opted to hold his first rally in 110 days despite concerns from local health officials that it could lead to further spread of the virus in Tulsa. Most of those in attendance declined to wear a mask.
 
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If you have stuck around until the end of this post, I want to add that I am not necessarily against Trump, as I feel there are some things he has handled quite well, and others he has neglected. I just try to see the situation objectively, without political prejudices, and take his actions pre-2015 (aka pre-media circus), and see what he did without being labelled as a supporter of one side or another

I've no desire to tell you your opinion on this is wrong, but want to let you know that yes, I read all of your reply.

My reaction to it (not an argument against it) is that I agree with some of it - he clearly cares about his family, he clearly likes having people like him. And frankly, I'm okay with that. And yes, the guy has a very healthy ego - I don't think he could accomplish what he has without such. But I will say again as I said in my first post, that if adulation were his motivation he could sell out and get a lot more of that. Yes, there'd always be anger at him stealing "her turn", but he's a deal maker extraordinaire. He could make peace. I think what stops him is he has ethics and self-respect. And perhaps he wants the American people to love him but he seems to want them to love him for the right reasons and for "the American People" not in terms of a sound bite today but in terms of generations to come.

Honestly, what Trump has gone up against - I find it extraordinary both that he was willing to and that he was able to. You say he's seeking admiration but taking on the CIA / Clintons / Media Establishment; there's a real risk that they would destroy his name and his family's name forevermore. They're already trying to pin nationwide race riots on him. And someone with his media background and connections must have known that.

TL;DR: You say someone that rich and older in life must seek something more intangible because they have everything else. I say I've seen the majority of rich people in their later years are like the majority of other people in their later years - they don't rock the boat, they don't take wild risks, they don't start knowingly making powerful enemies. The bravery of someone who is forced into a dangerous situation is still admirable. But the bravery of someone who is in no danger but accepts it anyway - that's a little more again. There is truth to what you say, but I unashamedly consider Donald Trump to be a very courageous man. He's a showman, he's also a patriot in a society where showmanship is the only accepted way to lead.
 
He's a very prominent leftist conspiracy blogger, sort of like a party-sponsored Alex Jones. He famously advocated for right-wingers to be sent to gulags.
Funny, because I've literally never heard of him before I began reading this thread. I often forget his name too.
 
These guys realise that the Empire didn't crumble because teh death star was destroyed right? the Empire fell apart because the emperor died and there was a massive power struggle.

That's asking too much from the nu-Star Wars "fans" who don't know about the politics that happened in both the original and prequel trilogies.
 
Interesting take on it. I certainly agree with you that he is not in it for money, but objectively I cannot overlook that there is some degree of egocentrism that motivates him.

To get a feel for this, I try to look at his life before he came into politics. Or at least before 2015. He was always about his image, in business, entertainment, and on twitter. No matter what you think of the guy, you have to admit that before 2015, he did a really phenomenal job of garnering respect and fame from liberals and conservatives alike.

The Apprentice in itself was constructed to give him the appearance of a master facilitator, and the show in itself could be interpreted as a wildly successful advertisement for all things Trump.

For a while, he hosted the "Celebrity Apprentice", where celebs that mock him today were salivating and kissing the ground he walked on. The media these days will neglect to tell you this, but there were MANY LGBT and civil rights charities which he donated to, on the behalf of the winners of each challenge. Why? Because it was excellent PR and got him in the good graces of those who also stood in the limelight.

He promoted his own children to positions of authority in this show, showcasing their abilities and in a way passing on his success to them - all the while still remaining as the clear patriarchal figure within the family.

I think the biggest dig on him pre-politics was that he cut a few shifty deals, which absolved him of paying taxes for a period of many years after construction was completed.

But ultimately he was a star at PR. There was a long period of time that cmthe iconic Central Park ice skating rink was closed, with a constantly shifting date for completion. He stepped in, perhaps to make the politicians at the time look foolish, and facilitated the process so that it was expedited to completion within a year.

So what I am saying, is that I feel with Trump there is always the ego factor, and one would have to have blinders on to assume he does what he does, simply for the love of his country. I think the nepotism he has displayed in both the Apprentice and his presidency, to some degree, shows that among his highest values is his family.

I don't think he has that same passion for the rest of the American people, and I don't think that is abnormal. In fact, the past four years must have seemed sobering, to see that a grand chunk of this population is beyond fucking re.tarded.

However, that is not to say I am disagreeing with your statement completely. I think there is this unbridled need from Trump to want to be admired. Whether this does stir genuine feelings of love toward the populace is really unknown, but I think we can soundly say that he really seeks to please people. Or perhaps that is the wrong word for it. Maybe it is a need to cement his legacy as a good President. Maybe it is to acquire the adoration he had before ththe media completely villainized him.

I don't necessarily wish to go through his policies and decisions, because I think that a lot of them were made on the dime, in an effort to impress the last person who spoke to him.

I think a lot if his opinions are based on those around him, which could also explain his penchant for firing people on his staff. He will keep someone on if they guide him in the right direction. It comes down to if at least half of the population believes he is steering the country in the direct course, which coincidentally is the size of his base.

It is about whether his moves (built on the foundations of the conversations with advisors, of whom he aspires to please on a personal level) , make him receive praise or criticism from this base, and if it is not reflected upon him in a good light, he will be able to shift blame onto that person who led him wrong. It is a simple formula, but in these polarizing times, it is quite effective. Especially considering that with the two parties at each others throats, a lot more people are willing to take his words at face value, and shift the blame to the newly fired staff member.

I think this method runs people the wrong way. In a society and government that is overflowing with corruption, having to constantly shift who you bribe and scheme with to get leaks, is probably frustrating. Some people will be players in the game, and once they are found out, he really has no problem with moving onto the next person to fill that seat.

So, for those who want a TL;DR, I think that Trump is motivated by ego on three levels. To please those in his personal circle (friends, family), to be seen as an equal by those in politics (staff, fellow Republicans), and finally to secure the admiration from his base, which he had become accustomed to.

I think that if he genuinely does love America, then it is a product of his underlying goal, to be seen as a good president. He doesn't to go down as the "worst president ever", which is why the media so eagerly pushes this button. They know full well that this is something he is concerned with.

We can see his efforts on paper - with the economic dip only being temporary, with the effort he put into negotiating with North Korea, and even the launching of the "Space Force". He wants his name to be in the future textbooks that talk of the Space Force's accomplishments. He wants to not be forgotten. If he has to piss off half the population, he is fine with it so long as the other half is in awe.

After a certain point, you are so rich and famous that you want something that is genuinely immaterial. Something as simple, yet valuable, as adoration.

If you have stuck around until the end of this post, I want to add that I am not necessarily against Trump, as I feel there are some things he has handled quite well, and others he has neglected. I just try to see the situation objectively, without political prejudices, and take his actions pre-2015 (aka pre-media circus), and see what he did without being labelled as a supporter of one side or another
I think that this pretty spot on, I would add in the caveat that Trump probably does genuinely love people who love him back. Despite all his shit, his kids seem to love him and he seems to really love his kids.

The way he talks about his fans at the rallies give me the impression that he does care about them, or is at least willing to stick up for them. Hence that little aside last night, when he calls them the elites in opposition to the media and what not.

It'd be really dumb to disregard how egoistic and narcissistic he is, but that doesn't mean he isn't genuine in certain ways.

Its just not with the same depth as most people, which is pretty standard for the less severe Narcissistic Personality Disorders.
 
I think that this pretty spot on, I would add in the caveat that Trump probably does genuinely love people who love him back. Despite all his shit, his kids seem to love him and he seems to really love his kids.

The way he talks about his fans at the rallies give me the impression that he does care about them, or is at least willing to stick up for them. Hence that little aside last night, when he calls them the elites in opposition to the media and what not.

It'd be really dumb to disregard how egoistic and narcissistic he is, but that doesn't mean he isn't genuine in certain ways.

Its just not with the same depth as most people, which is pretty standard for the less severe Narcissistic Personality Disorders.
The best two examples that shows that the man is a loyal bastard to those he likes are Barr and Flynn.

Barr shows what simple, mutual, unobstructed loyalty looks like for him. He has nothing but good to say for the man, and gives him ample space to work and do his own thing. He -trusts-Barr.

Flynn is an interesting example, as initially Flynn was thrown buswards... when it initially looked like he had lied to Trump. But notice, as soon as that was proven to be false, Trump has had nothing but support for him. And even when he had been thrown buswards, Trump never dragged him through the mud.

In fact, name one instance where Trump has ever attacked someone leaving his administration, without that person having tried to start shit first.
 
Interesting take on it. I certainly agree with you that he is not in it for money, but objectively I cannot overlook that there is some degree of egocentrism that motivates him.

To get a feel for this, I try to look at his life before he came into politics. Or at least before 2015. He was always about his image, in business, entertainment, and on twitter. No matter what you think of the guy, you have to admit that before 2015, he did a really phenomenal job of garnering respect and fame from liberals and conservatives alike.

The Apprentice in itself was constructed to give him the appearance of a master facilitator, and the show in itself could be interpreted as a wildly successful advertisement for all things Trump.

For a while, he hosted the "Celebrity Apprentice", where celebs that mock him today were salivating and kissing the ground he walked on. The media these days will neglect to tell you this, but there were MANY LGBT and civil rights charities which he donated to, on the behalf of the winners of each challenge. Why? Because it was excellent PR and got him in the good graces of those who also stood in the limelight.

He promoted his own children to positions of authority in this show, showcasing their abilities and in a way passing on his success to them - all the while still remaining as the clear patriarchal figure within the family.

I think the biggest dig on him pre-politics was that he cut a few shifty deals, which absolved him of paying taxes for a period of many years after construction was completed.

But ultimately he was a star at PR. There was a long period of time that cmthe iconic Central Park ice skating rink was closed, with a constantly shifting date for completion. He stepped in, perhaps to make the politicians at the time look foolish, and facilitated the process so that it was expedited to completion within a year.

So what I am saying, is that I feel with Trump there is always the ego factor, and one would have to have blinders on to assume he does what he does, simply for the love of his country. I think the nepotism he has displayed in both the Apprentice and his presidency, to some degree, shows that among his highest values is his family.

I don't think he has that same passion for the rest of the American people, and I don't think that is abnormal. In fact, the past four years must have seemed sobering, to see that a grand chunk of this population is beyond fucking re.tarded.

However, that is not to say I am disagreeing with your statement completely. I think there is this unbridled need from Trump to want to be admired. Whether this does stir genuine feelings of love toward the populace is really unknown, but I think we can soundly say that he really seeks to please people. Or perhaps that is the wrong word for it. Maybe it is a need to cement his legacy as a good President. Maybe it is to acquire the adoration he had before ththe media completely villainized him.

I don't necessarily wish to go through his policies and decisions, because I think that a lot of them were made on the dime, in an effort to impress the last person who spoke to him.

I think a lot if his opinions are based on those around him, which could also explain his penchant for firing people on his staff. He will keep someone on if they guide him in the right direction. It comes down to if at least half of the population believes he is steering the country in the direct course, which coincidentally is the size of his base.

It is about whether his moves (built on the foundations of the conversations with advisors, of whom he aspires to please on a personal level) , make him receive praise or criticism from this base, and if it is not reflected upon him in a good light, he will be able to shift blame onto that person who led him wrong. It is a simple formula, but in these polarizing times, it is quite effective. Especially considering that with the two parties at each others throats, a lot more people are willing to take his words at face value, and shift the blame to the newly fired staff member.

I think this method runs people the wrong way. In a society and government that is overflowing with corruption, having to constantly shift who you bribe and scheme with to get leaks, is probably frustrating. Some people will be players in the game, and once they are found out, he really has no problem with moving onto the next person to fill that seat.

So, for those who want a TL;DR, I think that Trump is motivated by ego on three levels. To please those in his personal circle (friends, family), to be seen as an equal by those in politics (staff, fellow Republicans), and finally to secure the admiration from his base, which he had become accustomed to.

I think that if he genuinely does love America, then it is a product of his underlying goal, to be seen as a good president. He doesn't to go down as the "worst president ever", which is why the media so eagerly pushes this button. They know full well that this is something he is concerned with.

We can see his efforts on paper - with the economic dip only being temporary, with the effort he put into negotiating with North Korea, and even the launching of the "Space Force". He wants his name to be in the future textbooks that talk of the Space Force's accomplishments. He wants to not be forgotten. If he has to piss off half the population, he is fine with it so long as the other half is in awe.

After a certain point, you are so rich and famous that you want something that is genuinely immaterial. Something as simple, yet valuable, as adoration.

If you have stuck around until the end of this post, I want to add that I am not necessarily against Trump, as I feel there are some things he has handled quite well, and others he has neglected. I just try to see the situation objectively, without political prejudices, and take his actions pre-2015 (aka pre-media circus), and see what he did without being labelled as a supporter of one side or another
Finally a well balanced and nuanced take on what drives the President. Too bad you too smart for your own good to be hired in today's media landscape and believe in a dirty word known as "CONTEXT".

Also I have a feeling CNN and MSNBC partially want him around for the next four years. I mean during the Obama era, its was just boring self validation compared to Trump where I am sure they are getting higher viewcounts. If it comes out that all the news anchors at CNN and MSNBC voted for Trump, I will be validated.
 
These guys realise that the Empire didn't crumble because teh death star was destroyed right? the Empire fell apart because the emperor died and there was a massive power struggle.
Well, the Disney nu-Empire fell apart because the Emperor threw a post-mortem hissy fit and had them enact a Nero decree to literally burn themselves down when he died but that's a topic for the Star Wars thread.
 
In fact, name one instance where Trump has ever attacked someone leaving his administration, without that person having tried to start shit first.
...or any instance where he's attacked anyone unprovoked. He will play "tit for tat" all day long, even to the point of pettiness, but he doesn't attack first.
 
If it comes out that all the news anchors at CNN and MSNBC voted for Trump, I will be validated.
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Expect a civil war within liberal media if that ever came to be. I'm sure Fox news will have a field day with that shit.

After all, at some point along the lines, the left always have a tendency to eat after their own.
 
The suicide rate for college educated millennials is gonna be through the roof once they hit their mid-life crisis. Either that or we'll see a lot of these college educated SJW types converting to religion. Christianity offers community and forgiveness for past actions. A second chance at life. So the second comming of the religious right (maybe even left). Even more smug and Righteous.

Edit: If certain SJWs do get into religion, they're not gonna change that much. It'll be slightly toned down. But the core about socialjustice will remain the same. Just through the lense of Christianity. And it won't be everyone, just the lower level foot soliders / burnouts of the movement. Mabe you'll have one or two major figures convert and get some of their followers to do the same. But the high level folks who run the show have community and family and whatnot. They might say they're Christian to court the middle class, ala the NeoCons.
 
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Expect a civil war within liberal media if that ever came to be. I'm sure Fox news will have a field day with that shit.

After all, at some point along the lines, the left always have a tendency to eat after their own.
Just shitpost about how "white" the boards of the major MSM networks are and watch them disavow.
 
These guys realise that the Empire didn't crumble because teh death star was destroyed right? the Empire fell apart because the emperor died and there was a massive power struggle.
I mean, the empire didn't even fall the first time the death star was destroyed. And even after the second one was blown to pieces, Palpy didn't really die. It was a clone or something. He just made Snoke. And Palpy then had Snoke corrupt Ben Solo into Kylo Ren. The movies didn't really show this, but the rebellion didn't get total control. There were probably still pockets of Empire support on distance systems or whatever. Sure, you destroyed the Death Star 2, but people were still loyal to the empire.
 
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