Sony Terminate Disney Spider-Man Deal

It should be pointed out that Sony gave Disney full merchandising and theme park rights for Spider-man in exchange for not having to pay any more licensing fees to make more Spider-man movies. The merchandising trade might seem short sighted, but Sony has never been good at promoting toys and they would see Disney’s contribution as free advertising. So Disney is basically wanting 50% of the film profits (with a 50% financing commitment) while they also get 100% of the profits from merchandise. That is ludicrous.

Yes, Disney is clearly the one in the wrong here.
 
Sony isn't just a movie studio. They're also just happen to be a somewhat prolific electronics company that made about, oh, 2.1 billion dollars last year. Sony has on multiple occasions considered scrapping movies entirely after a series of bombs only to be saved by a sudden blockbuster that manages to keep it all going.

Gone are the halcyon days where movies were ninety minutes and told one singular story (with a sequel here and there.) Movies were always about telling a story but the story didn't always have to be good; they were made to sell tickets and fill seats. Movies would have shoestring budgets and might be a hit or be a total flop. Didn't matter, though, because there'd be another movie out next week.

But then came the summer blockbusters. A movie made on fifty million made a hundred million. So they up the production costs, hire better actors, start using more and more cgi and special effects because this is gambling on a level that can make or break not just you but the entire company beneath you. It's a cut throat industry that sucks in massive amounts of money, gorging itself, growing in size and then spewing out whatever it can to the masses and all at the risk of either gaining even more of it precious sustenance or starving itself; leaving behind a carcass that the vultures are all to happy to pick clean.

I love movies. Always have, always will. It's not really commonly noticed except by film buffs but every ten-twenty years the film industry, much like the video game crash of the eighties, hits a sour patch and we're smothered with so much shit that films, as a whole, almost cease production. Films that were canned (Seventh Son, Three Stooges) are released to fill the time while studios bring in new ideas and new concepts, giving birth to a new generation of films. Superhero movies have a notorious level of sustainability but when you've had eleven years to build momentum it's gonna take some serious fuckup to stop that train.
 
I am not upset over Spider-Man not being in any more MCU crossover movies. At all. I'm okay with that. In fact, after Far From Home, I couldn't care less about Spidey's involvement with the New Avengers. I want to see HIS story continued though.

I just don't trust Sony with full creative control because they haven't made a great live action Spider-Man movie by themselves since Spider-Man 2 (in 2004). They have fucked it up time and time again, and if Venom is any indication for what's to come ... Then I'm tapping out.

Which would suck, because I love Spider-Man. He's always been my fave.
Personally I thought Venom was better than Disney's recent Marvel movies.

I think the MCU should have ended with Avengers.

And call me petty but I hate Disney's version of Spider-Man and think ITSV was the best Spider-Man movie in the past decade. So I'm looking forward to a non MCU Spider-Man.
 
Personally I thought Venom was better than Disney's recent Marvel movies.

I think the MCU should have ended with Avengers.

And call me petty but I hate Disney's version of Spider-Man and think ITSV was the best Spider-Man movie in the past decade. So I'm looking forward to a non MCU Spider-Man.

Venom was kind of Jenky like a lot of marvel movies. I think "Bane" Tom Hardy was the Big Guy who sold that movie on raw charisma
 
Their rights are to do a spider-man movie as part of the original sale (which was in 1989) it defined Peter Parker as Spider-Man and unchangeable aspects of the character. They also gained the rights to any characters that were developed from Spider-Man

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-mar-02-fi-13115-story.html this is one of the articles I was able to find that goes into the terms but it doesnt go into full detail. trying to google fu up the rest of the details
 
Personally I thought Venom was better than Disney's recent Marvel movies.

I think the MCU should have ended with Avengers.

And call me petty but I hate Disney's version of Spider-Man and think ITSV was the best Spider-Man movie in the past decade. So I'm looking forward to a non MCU Spider-Man.

Sorry, but I found Venom to be unwatchable. I will take any MCU movie over it. Even Captain Marvel (which I hated).

I get it: Disney Mouse Bad, but I'm judging the movies for what they are rather than the greedy Hollywood politics behind them.

If Tom Holland comes back for these next two movies and they turn out great, I will be super happy ... But Sony has given me many reasons to not trust them at all. I'm pessimistic about getting a good Spider-Man movie.
 
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Personally I thought Venom was better than Disney's recent Marvel movies.

I think the MCU should have ended with Avengers.

And call me petty but I hate Disney's version of Spider-Man and think ITSV was the best Spider-Man movie in the past decade. So I'm looking forward to a non MCU Spider-Man.

You might be in a minority.
Granted, I liked Venom (and I liked ITSV, too), but Tom Holland's Spidey is not bad either.
The only Marvel stinkers I've seen is Elektra and a bit of Ms. Marvel.
I skipped Punisher: War Zone, Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, the abysmal Fantastic Four reboot, and Dark Phoenix.
 
You might be in a minority.
Granted, I liked Venom (and I liked ITSV, too), but Tom Holland's Spidey is not bad either.
The only Marvel stinkers I've seen is Elektra and a bit of Ms. Marvel.
I skipped Punisher: War Zone, Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, the abysmal Fantastic Four reboot, and Dark Phoenix.

Punisher: War Zone is great. It's one of those "so bad it's hilarious and entertaining" movies. Totally worth the watch.

Venom could never. It wishes it was Punisher: War Zone.
 
As for that theme park ride posted a few pages back, I sincerely hope that thing gets shitcanned. Seeing everything Spider-Man related in the MCU having some sort of Iron Man shit tucked in there is absolutely awful. Before the MCU, Iron man had fuckin nothing to do with Spider-Man, hell for 20+ years Spider-Man literally wanted nothing to do with him:

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As if Disney can ever top this:

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https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/08/22/stan-lees-daughter-comment-sony-disney-spider-man-deal/

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Stan Lee's Daughter Sides with Sony over Spider-Man Dispute

Tensions continue to boil over the fractured Spider-Man deal between Sony and Walt Disney Studios. Now, Stan Lee's daughter has offered a comment on the ordeal and well, it might be a bit surprising to some. In one recent chat with TMZ, not only did JC Lee seem to agree with Sony in the dispute, but she went on to rake executives from both Disney and Marvel over the coals over the treatment of her late father.

Seeming to speak about anti-trust concerns, Lee expressed a desire to see her father's creations "checked and balanced" as they continue being developed. "Marvel and Disney seeking total control of my father's creations must be checked and balanced by others who, while still seeking to profit, have genuine respect for Stan Lee and his legacy."


The late Marvel publisher was responsible for helping hundreds of characters for the House of Ideas including Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, the original X-Men, and plenty of others. Lee passed away last November at the age of 95. Despite Marvel owning the intellectual property of Spidey outright, JC expressed concerns over a lack of communication from Walt Disney Studios in the wake of her father's passing.

“When my father died, no one from Marvel or Disney reached out to me. From day one, they have commoditized my father’s work and never shown him or his legacy any respect or decency," Lee fumed and that's when she dropped quite the bombshell.


"In the end, no one could have treated my father worse than Marvel and Disney's executives."

Most certainly a peculiar choice of words as younger generations may only know the elder Lee from his dozens of cameos within the Marvel Cinematic Universe -- or any Marvel live-action property, for that matter.



Spider-Man: Far From Home is now in theaters.
 
As if Disney can ever top this:

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That Universal ride is freakin' awesome.

I went to Universal about three years ago. It was first time I had been since I was in a stroller, so I don't remember much of that trip at all except for meeting the Marx Brothers while they were practicing their putting game and watching my brother getting into a 10 minute argument with Beetlejuice after he had said something mean to Yogi Bear (lol, the things we remember).

Anyway, before I went to Universal three years ago, I was asking people what they thought of the park. I got some pretty "meh" responses. Then, when I was there, I was completely blown away. I had an absolute blast.

I love me some DisneyParks, but Universal is every bit as good (and even better in many aspects). This is the park where you take your pre-teens and teenagers to, since it has more thrill rides than Disney. It's definitely more affordable too.

With Sony's deal with Disney ending now, I wonder if that also applies to the theme parks (please educate me if you know)? If so, that is a complete bummer, because Spidey is one of the best characters to meet.
 
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