Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

[LateNightComics]

Right, you don't care that Ethan lied and still refuses to send $50,000 worth of art pages that he admits he could have sent 6 months ago, that he originally promised to send last year, that he was finished drawing the first of them 15 months ago, that I paid him for 15 months ago, that he again promised to go ahead and ship 3 weeks ago and just didn't do it. Again. Well I do care about thousands of dollars of my own money, and you're sperging about me being normal like that. Not everyone's a cuck, get over it. Don't get so upset about someone's words on the internet that don't affect you.

And please link us to some evidence that this book exists with a chromium cover attached. Since he's "shown it several times", I'm sure you can find plenty of examples.

As for the art pages, he's admitted that he hasn't even decided which pages he's going to send to the backers who paid him $1,000 each, 15 months ago. He's going to let them pick, in order, after they get the books. So he's going to wait until the chromium gets printed and shipped (from China, as he mentioned last year?), then he has to wait until the book gets printed, then they'll attach the chromium, then they'll ship to him, then he has to spend a few weeks signing 10,000 copies and drawing sketches in the inside of several hundred copies, then he has to get the books shipped.

And then, after everyone's books are delivered, then he has to finally contact the first art buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the second buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the third buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the fourth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the fifth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the sixth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the seventh buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the eighth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the ninth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the tenth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the eleventh buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the twelfth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response -

Are you still reading? We're not even 25% through the list. Is that too much to read through? You don't have time to READ Ethan's to-do list, but you have time to actually wait another 4 months in real life for it?

I'm predicting that Ethan won't even do all that, like he now says he's planning to do, because it would take a lot of time and effort on his part. He doesn't have much time for comic books that we've paid him for, since he didn't even draw 2 pages per week over the last year. Time is for us plebs to wait on, not for him to spend on what he owes us. Oh, maybe he'll have the fulfilment center do it for him? I wonder if he's even talked to a fulfillment center about that. No big deal right, just another few months to wait.

Last month people were taking bets on whether Ethan would come out with a 5th crowdfund without delivering the first 3 that Comicsgate paid him $840,000 for. They were right, he did it. 5 crowdfunds since last year, $900,000, and he's only delivered the $67,000 of it that he didn't write, draw, or publish. And he thinks that's a good time to start even more projects. That's cool.

But since I don't have what I paid for, I have to do something with my time while I'm waiting. I decided that telling the truth would be a good use of my time. I'm sorry that you hate people telling the truth, but blame Ethan. I wouldn't be here saying these true things that upset you so much, if Ethan had done anything he said he'd do. Or even if he wasn't working on other projects before finishing the one he owes me and 10,000 other Comicsgaters.

Sorry for talking about 10,000 Comicsgaters and the #1 Comicsgate project, I know it's off-topic in a Comicsgate discussion.

You think just because a guy reads comics he can't start some shit?

What the fuck does that mean?

 

[UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste]

What the fuck does that mean?

It's a famous quote from a movie with Stan Lee in it from 25 years ago. It's about comic book fans making themselves heard when they get treated like shit, so you wouldn't be interested. I'm sure comic books are off-topic here too, so please continue to spend your life whining about what people post on the internet, and make sure not to start talking about anything important.

 

[LateNightComics]

It's a famous quote from a movie with Stan Lee in it from 25 years ago. It's about comic book fans making themselves heard when they get treated like shit, so you wouldn't be interested. I'm sure comic books are off-topic here too, so please continue to spend your life whining about what people post on the internet, and make sure not to start talking about anything important.

Are you being for real right now? Do you know what website you're on?

 

[UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste]

Are you being for real right now? Do you know what website you're on?

A website where a bunch of people whine when people "aren't talking about anything important", but then they don't talk about anything important themselves.

 

[LateNightComics]

A website where a bunch of people whine when people "aren't talking about anything important", but then they don't talk about anything important themselves.

If you're going to complain about the forum there is a thread for that.

If you want to complain about the CG thread, you should read it first. It's pretty clear you are extremely assmad, Stan.

Please understand people do want you as a fan, just don't want you to do some crazy shit.
People have been calling out Ethan since last year, exposing his gay ops and long history of not delivering on his promises.

You were quarantined to spergatory at the request of people who do NOT want to read your long autistic complaint.

The CG thread existed long before YOU finally realized Sleazy E is a liar. You think you're the first person calling him out and that everyone is just a pawn.
Nope, everyone has heard it before and you are sperging so hard it was a chore to read and impossible to understand your complaint.

This shit needed a whole thread to discuss so it doesnt shit up what the current topic is. Sorry that your problem isn't important. It's just not.

Bitch, we have all heard this before.

 

[instythot]

I'm here because Ethan personally owes me more than $3,000 worth of Comicsgate stuff, that he said he'd send me, that he didn't, that he lied about, that I provided video evidence for in the thread, which Ethan himself showed up in the thread to confirm. But Comicsgate is now "off topic" in the Comicsgate thread.

I think you have mistaken a place to discuss funny things done by drama whores and lolcows for a customer service fulfillment centre.

 

[UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste]

I think you have mistaken a place to discuss funny things done by drama whores and lolcows for a customer service fulfillment centre.

People are paying him for his 5th crowdfund right now, when he hasn't delivered the first 3. When I pointed out a new promise he broke this week, while he was busy selling even more SJW reprints that he also started this week, a bunch of spergs wanted to argue. They all mistook this for a place where we DON'T talk about ridiculous bullshit going on in Comicsgate. The mods think this is a place to let Ethan lie and continue to rip people off.

 

[instythot]

People are paying him for his 5th crowdfund right now, when he hasn't delivered the first 3. When I pointed out a new promise he broke this week, while he was busy selling even more SJW reprints that he also started this week, a bunch of spergs wanted to argue. They all mistook this for a place where we DON'T talk about ridiculous bullshit going on in Comicsgate. The mods think this is a place to let Ethan lie and continue to rip people off.

I think people might be more willing to believe that what you're doing isn't an attempt at raising a personal army if we didn't see the username you picked right beside every post

 

[UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste]

I think people might be more willing to believe that what you're doing isn't an attempt at raising a personal army if we didn't see the username you picked right beside every post

My username shows what I'm here to talk about.

For all the people saying "the book is coming, just wait", how many months would it take until you thought it was a problem? If it still isn't delivered next month, then will you agree with what I'm saying? What about 2 months? Another 6 months? I've already been waiting 15 months.

If there's no amount of time that would be a problem to you, and you'd still call me wrong and make a big deal about arguing with me, then you are the drama whores and lolcows of Comicsgate. And then I'd still be on-topic by arguing with you.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

I think you have mistaken a place to discuss funny things done by drama whores and lolcows for a customer service fulfillment centre.

If you really listen, the issue @UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste has is not actually upset with Ethan. His problem is with the unpredictability of the creative process.

We're getting a direct feed into the mind of a dealer determined to elevate the breakthroughs and setbacks creators go through to the level of larceny and malfeasance. Cyberfrog issues and OA are just checks he's waiting to cash. He's fine with actively diminishing the value of goods (vis a vis attacks on the creator) to accelerate the process.

Damian Hirst gave an interview after he was accused of plagiarizing a children's toy where he hinted the pressure to deliver from dealers leads him to seek inspiration in trivial things. Going to botch the quote, but it was something about the novelty of being surrounded by people so bound to the work that they come to resent everything but the signature.

Getting these kind of frank and honest insights is a real treat. @UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste is base, we get to see the coarse greed of the entire industry wrapped up in one spiteful little man.

What makes it entertaining, however, is that he belives his voice will be amplified. This is his attempt to find others that see the world the same way. The silence is deafening...

 

[instythot]

My username shows what I'm here to talk about.

For all the people saying "the book is coming, just wait", how many months would it take until you thought it was a problem? If it still isn't delivered next month, then will you agree with what I'm saying? What about 2 months? Another 6 months? I've already been waiting 15 months.

If there's no amount of time that would be a problem to you, and you'd still call me wrong and make a big deal about arguing with me, then you are the drama whores and lolcows of Comicsgate. And then I'd still be on-topic by arguing with you.

You, an unsatisfied customer, were offered a refund. Take it.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

We may be getting evs vs doug in the lawsplain live stream. But doubt doug will get in.

Doug was there. Words were exchanged. They made up, sort of. It was bittersweet.

 

[UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste]

You, an unsatisfied customer, were offered a refund. Take it.

He also offered to send the art 3 weeks ago, then pretended he didn't. He doesn't do what he says.

He told me to send him my order number so we could discuss it, then implied that he might just refund it without talking to me as soon as he found out which order was mine, fucking me out of what I paid for and taking a free no-interest loan on my money for 15 months. I want what I paid for, I paid him more than anyone else did, and I waited longer than is reasonable before I complained.

This other asshole here is saying "oh he just wants money, it's a creative process". I'm not the one who took $900,000 from Comicsgate. If it's not about money, why didn't Ethan offer to refund me AND send what I ordered? That $1,000 piece of paper didn't even cost him a dollar, so you can't defend Ethan while calling anyone greedy.

I paid his bills for a year while he was in "the creative process". It was all about money for Ethan when he needed his bills paid, but now that I need something from him it makes me the asshole. Ok.

I'm not the one who put up an Indiegogo page and made these promises, I'm just the one who paid for his new house. And I wouldn't even be here if he had waited until he delivered what he owes me, before he started 2 more crowdfunds to sell SJW reprints. He sold Comicsgate a $3.99 reprint from last year for $40 with shipping, and he only bothered to draw 1 drawing for the entire campaign. Because it's just a paycheck to him, and not a creative process.

 

[LateNightComics]

He also offered to send the art 3 weeks ago, then pretended he didn't. He doesn't do what he says.

He told me to send him my order number so we could discuss it, then implied that he might just refund it without talking to me as soon as he found out which order was mine, fucking me out of what I paid for and taking a free no-interest loan on my money for 15 months. I want what I paid for, I paid him more than anyone else did, and I waited longer than is reasonable before I complained.

This other asshole here is saying "oh he just wants money, it's a creative process". I'm not the one who took $900,000 from Comicsgate. If it's not about money, why didn't Ethan offer to refund me AND send what I ordered? That $1,000 piece of paper didn't even cost him a dollar, so you can't defend Ethan while calling anyone greedy.

I paid his bills for a year while he was in "the creative process". It was all about money for Ethan when he needed his bills paid, but now that I need something from him it makes me the asshole. Ok.

I'm not the one who put up an Indiegogo page and made these promises, I'm just the one who paid for his new house. And I wouldn't even be here if he had waited until he delivered what he owes me, before he started 2 more crowdfunds to sell SJW reprints. He sold Comicsgate a $3.99 reprint from last year for $40 with shipping, and he only bothered to draw 1 drawing for the entire campaign. Because it's just a paycheck to him, and not a creative process.

The is the most retarded possible take on crowdfunding. You clearly don't care about comics or art or the people making them. You are running gay ops and it's fucking stupid.

Ethan should bitch slap you for being this stupid.

 

[instythot]

If it's not about money, why didn't Ethan offer to refund me AND send what I ordered?

You don't get a refund AND the thing you're trying to buy, dipshit

And I wouldn't even be here if he had waited until he delivered what he owes me, before he started 2 more crowdfunds to sell SJW reprints.

But you're HERE for some reason, a place that's completely unconnected to Ethan's retarded gay frog comic book or how he gets paid for it. And trying to make him draw gay frogs faster HERE. And somehow you'd have us believe you're not trying to raise a personal army

 

[Ivan Shatov]

This other asshole here is saying "oh he just wants money, it's a creative process". I'm not the one who took $900,000 from Comicsgate. If it's not about money, why didn't Ethan offer to refund me AND send what I ordered? That $1,000 piece of paper didn't even cost him a dollar, so you can't defend Ethan while calling anyone greedy.

 

[UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste]

You don't get a refund AND the thing you're trying to buy, dipshit

I didn't ask for it, cocksucker. Ivan said it wasn't about money, and that I'm the only one who is thinking of it in terms of money. So, you tell me why Ethan wouldn't refund me and also send what I ordered, unless it's about money.

 

[instythot]

I didn't ask for it, cocksucker. Ivan said it wasn't about money, and that I'm the only one who is thinking of it in terms of money. So, you tell me why Ethan wouldn't refund me and also send what I ordered, unless it's about money.

And here I thought Bob Chipman was the stupidest cow

 

[LateNightComics]

I didn't ask for it, cocksucker. Ivan said it wasn't about money, and that I'm the only one who is thinking of it in terms of money. So, you tell me why Ethan wouldn't refund me and also send what I ordered, unless it's about money.

So you want free art and free comics because you are retarded?
You are going to harass Ethan, the person you are counting on to make a good book because you did not listen to #comicsgate when they said INVESTING in comics is stupid.
Ethan doesn't owe you fuck and I hope he sends your order last. You are too fucking stupid for a refund. You'll get your order, dude I have purchased from Ethan before he sent it.
Shut the fuck up.

 

[UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste]

So you want free art and free comics because you are exceptional?
You are going to harass Ethan, the person you are counting on to make a good book because you did not listen to #comicsgate when they said INVESTING in comics is stupid.
Ethan doesn't owe you fuck and I hope he sends your order last. You are too fucking stupid for a refund. You'll get your order, dude I have purchased from Ethan before he sent it.
Shut the fuck up.

You've never received an independent self-published comic from Ethan, because he's never made one.